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    Post by SBSP Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:28 pm

    Not telling. Snooty
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    Post by Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:29 pm

    SBSP wrote:Not telling. Snooty

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    Post by Coatsy Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:35 pm

    Obviously there is the practical element derived from war etc but in modern society these are seemingly insignificant barriers towards women having multiple husbands. So what i'm asking is are these double standards in modern society acceptable?
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    Post by Coatsy Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:36 pm

    SBSP wrote:Not telling. New York moves to become 6th state to legalize gay marriage - Page 10 727917

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    Post by Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:38 pm

    Coatsy wrote:Obviously there is the practical element derived from war etc but in modern society these are seemingly insignificant barriers towards women having multiple husbands. So what i'm asking is are these double standards in modern society acceptable?

    I'm not sure if I understand your question. Are you saying it's double standards to allow men to have multiple wives, but not allow women to have multiple husbands? If that's the case, I already explained the reasons as to why there is inequality.
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    Post by Coatsy Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:42 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:
    Coatsy wrote:Obviously there is the practical element derived from war etc but in modern society these are seemingly insignificant barriers towards women having multiple husbands. So what i'm asking is are these double standards in modern society acceptable?

    I'm not sure if I understand your question. Are you saying it's double standards to allow men to have multiple wives, but not allow women to have multiple husbands? If that's the case, I already explained the reasons as to why there is inequality.

    Yeah but those reasons are hardly relevant to modern society. So what i'm asking is it acceptable for inequalities based on sex in modern society.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:43 pm

    Coatsy wrote:
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    Coatsy wrote:Obviously there is the practical element derived from war etc but in modern society these are seemingly insignificant barriers towards women having multiple husbands. So what i'm asking is are these double standards in modern society acceptable?

    I'm not sure if I understand your question. Are you saying it's double standards to allow men to have multiple wives, but not allow women to have multiple husbands? If that's the case, I already explained the reasons as to why there is inequality.

    Yeah but those reasons are hardly relevant to modern society. So what i'm asking is it acceptable for inequalities based on sex in modern society.

    The first reason may not be relevant to modern society, but what about the second one?
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    Post by Childish Logic Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:45 pm

    Check your messages Crazy
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    ahlycotc wrote:Hold on, I'm watching us getting raped by Mexico. Sad
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    Post by Coatsy Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:52 pm

    Perhaps it is,however that would state that one womans thousands of eggs isn't enough for one man. Is one guy going to have thousands of Children?No didn't think so it all seems somewhat excessive. And yes I know if you have four wives you can get them all pregnant at the same time and get four kids for time of one yet it can be deemed that much of the world is now overpopulated.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:03 pm

    Coatsy wrote:Perhaps it is,however that would state that one womans thousands of eggs isn't enough for one man. Is one guy going to have thousands of Children?No didn't think so it all seems somewhat excessive. And yes I know if you have four wives you can get them all pregnant at the same time and get four kids for time of one yet it can be deemed that much of the world is now overpopulated.

    Yeah. I didn't say Islam forced men to marry more than one wife. I just said it gave them the permission when needed. First, it gave us the permission because it was necessary to keep the population growing while in times of war. The reason God did not take away that right later is because it might be necessary to grow the population again in the future.

    I'm not sure what you meant by "one womans thousands of eggs isn't enough for one man". A woman can only produce a certain number of eggs. This number is small (1-15). A man can technically provide enough sperm for each egg a woman has.
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    Post by Coatsy Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:16 pm

    A woman is born with million of eggs,this slowly depletes over time to around 300,000 at puberty obviously depleting as they age. Whether you mean that only 15 can be fertilised throughout her life then fair enough but there are women who have 20-30 pregnancies resulting in 60+ children which to me seems plenty to me. Anyway, I understand why it is in place just wanted to question Islamic reasoning as to why it is acceptable still for polygamy to be in place despite it to me atleast not being required in modern society and to me seemingly unfair.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:22 pm

    Coatsy wrote:A woman is born with million of eggs,this slowly depletes over time to around 300,000 at puberty obviously depleting as they age. Whether you mean that only 15 can be fertilised throughout her life then fair enough but there are women who have 20-30 pregnancies resulting in 60+ children which to me seems plenty to me. Anyway, I understand why it is in place just wanted to question Islamic reasoning as to why it is acceptable still for polygamy to be in place despite it to me atleast not being required in modern society and to me seemingly unfair.

    Like I said, it might be required in the future. We could have a big disaster that clears out a huge percentage of the population. The fastest way to increase the population again is to have multiple women for each man. But typically, having multiple wives is not recommended. As I said before, it requires treating each wife equally which is very difficult to do.
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    New York moves to become 6th state to legalize gay marriage - Page 10 Tumblr_lndjcvajXH1qf6f8mo1_500 rofl
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    Post by Roloman4 Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:50 pm

    Ahmed, NZG, and Abraar obviously don't understand that homosexuality is primarily biological.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:52 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:Ahmed, NZG, and Abraar obviously don't understand that homosexuality is primarily biological.

    I really don't feel like going through this again. But just go ahead and post your biological and scientific proof.
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    Post by Roloman4 Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:56 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:
    Roloman4 wrote:Ahmed, NZG, and Abraar obviously don't understand that homosexuality is primarily biological.

    I really don't feel like going through this again. But just go ahead and post your biological and scientific proof.

    One.
    http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2003/12/02/the_biological_basis_of_homosexuality/

    Two.
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3008-homosexuality-is-biological-suggests-gay-sheep-study.html

    Three.
    http://sexualhealth.e-healthsource.com/?p=news1&id=533470

    Four.
    http://www.skeptictank.org/gaygene.htm

    And hundreds more if you look.

    Why would any child choose to be hated by the more ignorant factions of society, such as yourself?

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    Post by SBSP Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:57 pm

    New York moves to become 6th state to legalize gay marriage - Page 10 Not-this-again
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    Post by Roloman4 Sun Jun 26, 2011 2:59 pm

    SBSP wrote:New York moves to become 6th state to legalize gay marriage - Page 10 Not-this-again

    Pardon me for just coming back from a pleasant night out and being shocked at you two's aberrant lack of humanity.

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    Post by SBSP Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:04 pm

    You should know better than to start something that's cooled off.

    In other news: Gio dos Santos. Dance
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    Post by Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 3:06 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:
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    Roloman4 wrote:Ahmed, NZG, and Abraar obviously don't understand that homosexuality is primarily biological.

    I really don't feel like going through this again. But just go ahead and post your biological and scientific proof.

    One.
    http://www.boston.com/news/science/articles/2003/12/02/the_biological_basis_of_homosexuality/

    Two.
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3008-homosexuality-is-biological-suggests-gay-sheep-study.html

    Three.
    http://sexualhealth.e-healthsource.com/?p=news1&id=533470

    Four.
    http://www.skeptictank.org/gaygene.htm

    And hundreds more if you look.

    Why would any child choose to be hated by the more ignorant factions of society, such as yourself?


    So by a quick glance, I see that many of these studies are done on animals like mice and sheep. That doesn't mean the same applies to humans. Also, some of theses studies can't be taken seriously...

    "Adding to the theory that homosexuality may be hardwired and not the product of environmental factors, new research again confirms that the more older brothers a male has, the more likely he is to be gay." Laughing
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    Gay people are gay.
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    Post by SBSP Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:38 pm

    kyro7 wrote:Gay people are gay.
    Laughing

    Okay, I'm going to make one last post in here, and I've put some thought into it. I'm going to compare homosexuality to drinking alcohol. Both are forbidden in my religion. I don't agree with either, but I don't have a problem with other people engaging in them. I wouldn't do either (save a life-or-death situation), but I'm not going to go out of my way to prevent others from doing them.

    I hope that makes sense. Dry Smile
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    Post by Sean Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:39 pm

    Ok Arbraar, I know things got heated in here, Im sorry, I dont think any less of you as a person, we'll just agree to disagree
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    Post by Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:41 pm

    Don't be silly Abraar, STONE THE POOFS.
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    Post by SBSP Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:42 pm

    I need to learn to not respond to these topics. Dry Smile

    Kyro. rofl
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    Post by Guest Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:19 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:
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    Then how what decides homosexual preference?

    Who knows. There has been extensive research into it and no clear results. It isn't a choice, but you aren't born gay.


    Maybe it's part of 'Gods plan'. He works in 'mysterious ways after all'.

    So you aren't born gay and it's not a choice. think

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    No clear results but you can say it isn't a choice.

    scratch scratch

    Because it plainly isn't a choice. You can't suddenly decide not to be gay.

    I'm sure there are people out there who committed gay acts and decided not to be gay at one point in the future.

    The feelings would still exist. While the actions might not be there, the feelings would. You cannot help who you are attracted to.

    Love is the most natural thing in the world. Are you telling me that love cannot exist between two members of the same sex?

    I find Pique to be very handsome, he is a great football player, and if I personally knew him, I might enjoy his company. Doesn't mean I want to have sex with him. There is not wrong at all with finding someone physically attractive (even the same sex).

    I'm talking about love. Not physical attraction. It's completely different.

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