New York moves to become 6th state to legalize gay marriage

ahlycotc wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

No, they aren't. There is evidence of homosexuality in the Stone Age. Millions of years before Religion appeared on the scene.

If homosexuality is so immoral, how come many species on animal partake in it?

There is also evidence of murder in the Stone Age. Just because something happened, doesn't mean it's natural. There are many animal species that eat their sexual partner after sex. Does it make it OK for humans to eat their partner after sex? There are many animal species that eat their young as well.

Forest wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I find it ironic how it is only the muslims in this thread that are being ignorant.

I wouldn't say that if I were you, you'd be classed as an ignorant racist.

SBSP wrote:

Dan wrote:Incase you didn't realise, homosexuals are perfectly capable of reproduction.

Could you elaborate please?

SBSP wrote:

Dan wrote:Incase you didn't realise, homosexuals are perfectly capable of reproduction.

Could you elaborate please?

Mr Leiva wrote:

NZG wrote:

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:

SBSP wrote:Yeah, I was going to say this. Isn't being gay your choice?

Alot of people say it is something you are born with but i can't believe that.
I believe that it is the environment they grow up in that makes them gay.

How come there are cases of people coming out of strict anti-gay families with a homosexual preference?

How come there are cases of girls who come from strict no boyfriend until after uni families having boyfriends when they are not allowed?

It is because kids (wait humans in general) want what they can't have. I'm not against gays, They can do what they want in there own home but i just can't believe it is a some sort of gene or shit like that. Our purpose on earth is to reproduce, They don't help.

And who said that ... oh wait, the bible.

NZG wrote:

Mr Leiva wrote:

NZG wrote:

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:


Alot of people say it is something you are born with but i can't believe that.
I believe that it is the environment they grow up in that makes them gay.

How come there are cases of people coming out of strict anti-gay families with a homosexual preference?

How come there are cases of girls who come from strict no boyfriend until after uni families having boyfriends when they are not allowed?

It is because kids (wait humans in general) want what they can't have. I'm not against gays, They can do what they want in there own home but i just can't believe it is a some sort of gene or shit like that. Our purpose on earth is to reproduce, They don't help.

And who said that ... oh wait, the bible.

It is life.... With or without religion we are meant to reproduce.

Mr Leiva wrote:

NZG wrote:

Mr Leiva wrote:

NZG wrote:

Dan wrote:

How come there are cases of people coming out of strict anti-gay families with a homosexual preference?

How come there are cases of girls who come from strict no boyfriend until after uni families having boyfriends when they are not allowed?

It is because kids (wait humans in general) want what they can't have. I'm not against gays, They can do what they want in there own home but i just can't believe it is a some sort of gene or shit like that. Our purpose on earth is to reproduce, They don't help.

And who said that ... oh wait, the bible.

It is life.... With or without religion we are meant to reproduce.

Says who?

Sean wrote:

NZG wrote:

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:

SBSP wrote:Yeah, I was going to say this. Isn't being gay your choice?

Alot of people say it is something you are born with but i can't believe that.
I believe that it is the environment they grow up in that makes them gay.

How come there are cases of people coming out of strict anti-gay families with a homosexual preference?

How come there are cases of girls who come from strict no boyfriend until after uni families having boyfriends when they are not allowed?

It is because kids (wait humans in general) want what they can't have. I'm not against gays, They can do what they want in there own home but i just can't believe it is a some sort of gene or shit like that. Our purpose on earth is to reproduce, They don't help.

What about childless straight couples, do they deserve the same?

NZG wrote:

Sean wrote:

NZG wrote:

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:


Alot of people say it is something you are born with but i can't believe that.
I believe that it is the environment they grow up in that makes them gay.

How come there are cases of people coming out of strict anti-gay families with a homosexual preference?

How come there are cases of girls who come from strict no boyfriend until after uni families having boyfriends when they are not allowed?

It is because kids (wait humans in general) want what they can't have. I'm not against gays, They can do what they want in there own home but i just can't believe it is a some sort of gene or shit like that. Our purpose on earth is to reproduce, They don't help.

What about childless straight couples, do they deserve the same?

deserve what?

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

So its not their fault if they are gay then? You cant control the environment you live in at a young age

Dan wrote:

SBSP wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

No, they aren't. There is evidence of homosexuality in the Stone Age. Millions of years before Religion appeared on the scene.

If homosexuality is so immoral, how come many species on animal partake in it?

Some animals will have sex with whatever they want.

So? Aren't animals part of God's creation? Why would he create some with homosexual preferences?

Sean wrote:Wow, how an opinion of someone can drastically change.

Tell me this, if Gay people, espically years ago were constantly discriminated against or worse, why on Earth would they CHOOSE to be gay?

Sean wrote:Gay people arnt gonna lead to the end of the popualtion, theres anough straight people in the world to continue the human race, too many in fact.

Sean wrote:Gay people arnt gonna lead to the end of the popualtion, theres anough straight people in the world to continue the human race, too many in fact.

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

So its not their fault if they are gay then? You cant control the environment you live in at a young age

If a person grew up in an environment around alcoholics, I'd expect them to attempt to not be alcoholic as well.

Dan wrote:

SBSP wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

No, they aren't. There is evidence of homosexuality in the Stone Age. Millions of years before Religion appeared on the scene.

If homosexuality is so immoral, how come many species on animal partake in it?

Some animals will have sex with whatever they want.

So? Aren't animals part of God's creation? Why would he create some with homosexual preferences?

Humans aren't like animals. And are those animals you are referring to ONLY having sex with the same gender?

Sean wrote:Wow, how an opinion of someone can drastically change.

Tell me this, if Gay people, espically years ago were constantly discriminated against or worse, why on Earth would they CHOOSE to be gay?

Seriously, Sean? Aren't you Christian? How many Christians were killed and discriminated against for choosing their religious beliefs in history? How many Muslims? How many Jews? Yet we still have those people stick to their ways throughout the abuse and discrimination.

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

So its not their fault if they are gay then? You cant control the environment you live in at a young age

If a person grew up in an environment around alcoholics, I'd expect them to attempt to not be alcoholic as well.

Dan wrote:

SBSP wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

No, they aren't. There is evidence of homosexuality in the Stone Age. Millions of years before Religion appeared on the scene.

If homosexuality is so immoral, how come many species on animal partake in it?

Some animals will have sex with whatever they want.

So? Aren't animals part of God's creation? Why would he create some with homosexual preferences?

Humans aren't like animals. And are those animals you are referring to ONLY having sex with the same gender?

Sean wrote:Wow, how an opinion of someone can drastically change.

Tell me this, if Gay people, espically years ago were constantly discriminated against or worse, why on Earth would they CHOOSE to be gay?

Seriously, Sean? Aren't you Christian? How many Christians were killed and discriminated against for choosing their religious beliefs in history? How many Muslims? How many Jews? Yet we still have those people stick to their ways throughout the abuse and discrimination.

NZG wrote:

Sean wrote:Gay people arnt gonna lead to the end of the popualtion, theres anough straight people in the world to continue the human race, too many in fact.

I'm not saying they are going to end the population.


My point is that our point in life is to continue our species. Gay people don't help that so in a biological sense they are against our species because they aren't helping.

Sean wrote:

NZG wrote:

Sean wrote:

NZG wrote:

Dan wrote:

How come there are cases of people coming out of strict anti-gay families with a homosexual preference?

How come there are cases of girls who come from strict no boyfriend until after uni families having boyfriends when they are not allowed?

It is because kids (wait humans in general) want what they can't have. I'm not against gays, They can do what they want in there own home but i just can't believe it is a some sort of gene or shit like that. Our purpose on earth is to reproduce, They don't help.

What about childless straight couples, do they deserve the same?

deserve what?

Discrimination.

NZG wrote:

Sean wrote:

NZG wrote:

Sean wrote:

NZG wrote:

How come there are cases of girls who come from strict no boyfriend until after uni families having boyfriends when they are not allowed?

It is because kids (wait humans in general) want what they can't have. I'm not against gays, They can do what they want in there own home but i just can't believe it is a some sort of gene or shit like that. Our purpose on earth is to reproduce, They don't help.

What about childless straight couples, do they deserve the same?

deserve what?

Discrimination.

I don't discriminant against gays. I just don't agree with what they are doing.

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

No, they aren't. There is evidence of homosexuality in the Stone Age. Millions of years before Religion appeared on the scene.

If homosexuality is so immoral, how come many species on animal partake in it?

There is also evidence of murder in the Stone Age. Just because something happened, doesn't mean it's natural. There are many animal species that eat their sexual partner after sex. Does it make it OK for humans to eat their partner after sex? There are many animal species that eat their young as well.

I'm not arguing morality, I'm arguing whether something is natural. You stated that homosexuality isn't natural. Why? Because the bible states so. However, homosexual behaviour was around long before the bible.

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:

Sean wrote:Gay people arnt gonna lead to the end of the popualtion, theres anough straight people in the world to continue the human race, too many in fact.

I'm not saying they are going to end the population.


My point is that our point in life is to continue our species. Gay people don't help that so in a biological sense they are against our species because they aren't helping.

That is a disgraceful opinion. Absolutely shocking.

NZG wrote:

Sean wrote:Gay people arnt gonna lead to the end of the popualtion, theres anough straight people in the world to continue the human race, too many in fact.

I'm not saying they are going to end the population.


My point is that our point in life is to continue our species. Gay people don't help that so in a biological sense they are against our species because they aren't helping.

Dan wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

No, they aren't. There is evidence of homosexuality in the Stone Age. Millions of years before Religion appeared on the scene.

If homosexuality is so immoral, how come many species on animal partake in it?

There is also evidence of murder in the Stone Age. Just because something happened, doesn't mean it's natural. There are many animal species that eat their sexual partner after sex. Does it make it OK for humans to eat their partner after sex? There are many animal species that eat their young as well.

I'm not arguing morality, I'm arguing whether something is natural. You stated that homosexuality isn't natural. Why? Because the bible states so. However, homosexual behaviour was around long before the bible.

Are we just ignoring this now?

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

No, they aren't. There is evidence of homosexuality in the Stone Age. Millions of years before Religion appeared on the scene.

If homosexuality is so immoral, how come many species on animal partake in it?

There is also evidence of murder in the Stone Age. Just because something happened, doesn't mean it's natural. There are many animal species that eat their sexual partner after sex. Does it make it OK for humans to eat their partner after sex? There are many animal species that eat their young as well.

I'm not arguing morality, I'm arguing whether something is natural. You stated that homosexuality isn't natural. Why? Because the bible states so. However, homosexual behaviour was around long before the bible.

NZG wrote:

Sean wrote:Gay people arnt gonna lead to the end of the popualtion, theres anough straight people in the world to continue the human race, too many in fact.

I'm not saying they are going to end the population.


My point is that our point in life is to continue our species. Gay people don't help that so in a biological sense they are against our species because they aren't helping.

NZG wrote:

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:

Sean wrote:Gay people arnt gonna lead to the end of the popualtion, theres anough straight people in the world to continue the human race, too many in fact.

I'm not saying they are going to end the population.


My point is that our point in life is to continue our species. Gay people don't help that so in a biological sense they are against our species because they aren't helping.

That is a disgraceful opinion. Absolutely shocking.

please elaborate

ahlycotc wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

No, they aren't. There is evidence of homosexuality in the Stone Age. Millions of years before Religion appeared on the scene.

If homosexuality is so immoral, how come many species on animal partake in it?

There is also evidence of murder in the Stone Age. Just because something happened, doesn't mean it's natural. There are many animal species that eat their sexual partner after sex. Does it make it OK for humans to eat their partner after sex? There are many animal species that eat their young as well.

I'm not arguing morality, I'm arguing whether something is natural. You stated that homosexuality isn't natural. Why? Because the bible states so. However, homosexual behaviour was around long before the bible.

How does the fact that homosexual activity occurring before the Bible prove that homosexual activity is natural? Like I said, just because something happened, doesn't mean it's natural. Murder happened, is it natural?

NZG wrote:

Sean wrote:Gay people arnt gonna lead to the end of the popualtion, theres anough straight people in the world to continue the human race, too many in fact.

I'm not saying they are going to end the population.


My point is that our point in life is to continue our species. Gay people don't help that so in a biological sense they are against our species because they aren't helping.

Just because you aren't helping someone, doesn't mean you are against them. That's Bush mentality there. Sorry, but I had to say that.

ahlycotc wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

No, they aren't. There is evidence of homosexuality in the Stone Age. Millions of years before Religion appeared on the scene.

If homosexuality is so immoral, how come many species on animal partake in it?

There is also evidence of murder in the Stone Age. Just because something happened, doesn't mean it's natural. There are many animal species that eat their sexual partner after sex. Does it make it OK for humans to eat their partner after sex? There are many animal species that eat their young as well.

I'm not arguing morality, I'm arguing whether something is natural. You stated that homosexuality isn't natural. Why? Because the bible states so. However, homosexual behaviour was around long before the bible.

How does the fact that homosexual activity occurring before the Bible prove that homosexual activity is natural? Like I said, just because something happened, doesn't mean it's natural. Murder happened, is it natural?

Sean wrote:Thats different, they stuck by their Religion because of their salvation, because they believed it was the be all and end all of life. What exactly do Gay people earn?

ahlycotc wrote:

Sean wrote:Thats different, they stuck by their Religion because of their salvation, because they believed it was the be all and end all of life. What exactly do Gay people earn?

The enjoyment of gay sex.