New York moves to become 6th state to legalize gay marriage

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

dena wrote:I'm obviously joking, but like all jokes there is a bit of truth in it. Relations between homosexuals has no impact on anyone besides the two individuals, incest can break a family apart, cause untold of horros for children involved, and can cause future generations to be deformed, why this was even brought up as a foil to gay marriage/sex is beyond me and I expected better from you.

Color me dissapointed.

Also tan because it's been raining a lot in NY and it's hard to get bronzed up.

I'm not sure if you noticed, but I had said earlier that it was up to the majority of the population to decide on laws. If the majority want to accept gay marriage, I'm fine with that (even though I may not accept it personally). The reason I brought up incest and multiple spouses was not to foil the passing of the gay marriage law, but to see if anyone didn't agree with incest or multiple spouses (mostly multiple spouses) because of their personal feelings towards it. If they did disagree with multiple spouses morally, then it would be hypocritical of them in supporting gay marriage.

How are multiple spouses and gay marriage related at all?

Multiple spouses are illegal for both straight people and gay members of society. In a lot of places marriage is only available for straight people.

NZG wrote:get ready for a massive attack.

SBSP wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

dena wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Sean wrote:I mean I've stood with them and stuck up for my Religion, but if any part of Religion tells me to treat certain people with one degree less respect than anyone else, then I can never agree with it

OK, then that's something we disagree on. I'm sorry, but I can never look at a gay person the same way I can look at a straight person. And it's not purely a religious thing. If I wasn't religious, I'd probably feel the same way.

Why? Because they are attracted to the same sex? You look at them/treat them differently? That's about as bad as racism/sexism/ageism if you ask me, actually it is since they all fall under discrimination.

That's not the same thing as racism. People don't choose their race. I believe being gay is a choice. If I didn't think it was a choice, then I can't hate gay people.

Yeah, I was going to say this. Isn't being gay your choice?

NZG wrote:

SBSP wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

dena wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

OK, then that's something we disagree on. I'm sorry, but I can never look at a gay person the same way I can look at a straight person. And it's not purely a religious thing. If I wasn't religious, I'd probably feel the same way.

Why? Because they are attracted to the same sex? You look at them/treat them differently? That's about as bad as racism/sexism/ageism if you ask me, actually it is since they all fall under discrimination.

That's not the same thing as racism. People don't choose their race. I believe being gay is a choice. If I didn't think it was a choice, then I can't hate gay people.

Yeah, I was going to say this. Isn't being gay your choice?

Alot of people say it is something you are born with but i can't believe that.
I believe that it is the environment they grow up in that makes them gay.

SBSP wrote:

NZG wrote:get ready for a massive attack.

He called it.

I was genuinely asking a question there.

NZG wrote:

SBSP wrote:

NZG wrote:get ready for a massive attack.

He called it.

I was genuinely asking a question there.

didn't they teach you this in school?

Forest wrote:You're all like Zainab

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

ahlycotc wrote:Can someone kindly show me the gay gene? Is it recessive or dominant?

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:

SBSP wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

dena wrote:

Why? Because they are attracted to the same sex? You look at them/treat them differently? That's about as bad as racism/sexism/ageism if you ask me, actually it is since they all fall under discrimination.

That's not the same thing as racism. People don't choose their race. I believe being gay is a choice. If I didn't think it was a choice, then I can't hate gay people.

Yeah, I was going to say this. Isn't being gay your choice?

Alot of people say it is something you are born with but i can't believe that.
I believe that it is the environment they grow up in that makes them gay.

How come there are cases of people coming out of strict anti-gay families with a homosexual preference?

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:

SBSP wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

dena wrote:

Why? Because they are attracted to the same sex? You look at them/treat them differently? That's about as bad as racism/sexism/ageism if you ask me, actually it is since they all fall under discrimination.

That's not the same thing as racism. People don't choose their race. I believe being gay is a choice. If I didn't think it was a choice, then I can't hate gay people.

Yeah, I was going to say this. Isn't being gay your choice?

Alot of people say it is something you are born with but i can't believe that.
I believe that it is the environment they grow up in that makes them gay.

How come there are cases of people coming out of strict anti-gay families with a homosexual preference?

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

No, they aren't. There is evidence of homosexuality in the Stone Age. Millions of years before Religion appeared on the scene.

If homosexuality is so immoral, how come many species on animal partake in it?

ahlycotc wrote:

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:

SBSP wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

That's not the same thing as racism. People don't choose their race. I believe being gay is a choice. If I didn't think it was a choice, then I can't hate gay people.

Yeah, I was going to say this. Isn't being gay your choice?

Alot of people say it is something you are born with but i can't believe that.
I believe that it is the environment they grow up in that makes them gay.

How come there are cases of people coming out of strict anti-gay families with a homosexual preference?

What does that prove? I know families who are die hard Zamalek fans, but one of their child preferes and supports Ahly. Are people born with a sports team gene?

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

SBSP wrote:

NZG wrote:

SBSP wrote:

NZG wrote:get ready for a massive attack.

He called it.

I was genuinely asking a question there.

didn't they teach you this in school?

No...

SBSP wrote:

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

No, they aren't. There is evidence of homosexuality in the Stone Age. Millions of years before Religion appeared on the scene.

If homosexuality is so immoral, how come many species on animal partake in it?

Some animals will have sex with whatever they want.

NZG wrote:

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:

SBSP wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

That's not the same thing as racism. People don't choose their race. I believe being gay is a choice. If I didn't think it was a choice, then I can't hate gay people.

Yeah, I was going to say this. Isn't being gay your choice?

Alot of people say it is something you are born with but i can't believe that.
I believe that it is the environment they grow up in that makes them gay.

How come there are cases of people coming out of strict anti-gay families with a homosexual preference?

How come there are cases of girls who come from strict no boyfriend until after uni families having boyfriends when they are not allowed?

It is because kids (wait humans in general) want what they can't have. I'm not against gays, They can do what they want in there own home but i just can't believe it is a some sort of gene or shit like that. Our purpose on earth is to reproduce, They don't help.

Dan wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Its a mental disorder.

No it's not a mental disorder. If it was a mental disorder, I can't blame gay people then. Humans are naturally straight. But the environment they live in might influence them to prefer the same sex over another.

No, they aren't. There is evidence of homosexuality in the Stone Age. Millions of years before Religion appeared on the scene.

If homosexuality is so immoral, how come many species on animal partake in it?

Dan wrote:Incase you didn't realise, homosexuals are perfectly capable of reproduction.

NZG wrote:

Dan wrote:

NZG wrote:

SBSP wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

That's not the same thing as racism. People don't choose their race. I believe being gay is a choice. If I didn't think it was a choice, then I can't hate gay people.

Yeah, I was going to say this. Isn't being gay your choice?

Alot of people say it is something you are born with but i can't believe that.
I believe that it is the environment they grow up in that makes them gay.

How come there are cases of people coming out of strict anti-gay families with a homosexual preference?

How come there are cases of girls who come from strict no boyfriend until after uni families having boyfriends when they are not allowed?

It is because kids (wait humans in general) want what they can't have. I'm not against gays, They can do what they want in there own home but i just can't believe it is a some sort of gene or shit like that. Our purpose on earth is to reproduce, They don't help.

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I find it ironic how it is only the muslims in this thread that are being ignorant.

Forest wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:I find it ironic how it is only the muslims in this thread that are being ignorant.

I wouldn't say that if I were you, you'd be classed as an ignorant racist.