73 dead as fans riot in Egypt

They tried to take a stance before and it failed spectacularly when they thought me and James were the worst things about this place

Evidently we weren't, which is why we are here today after our perma bans... Well, I am anyway

Eternal Witcher wrote:League definitely needs to be suspended for some time as a cooling period. Would it be possible to pull a Fernabahce and only allow in women and children? As for that team with the rioters, relegate those cretins.

Not if the overal security is the problem. That would just endanger the women and children.

Billy Davies wrote:They tried to take a stance before and it failed spectacularly when they thought me and James were the worst things about this place

Evidently we weren't, which is why we are here today after our perma bans... Well, I am anyway

I agree harsh bannings for ''trolling'' should not happen but when she mocks the dead in nearly every thread, she has crossed the line.

Laurencio wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:League definitely needs to be suspended for some time as a cooling period. Would it be possible to pull a Fernabahce and only allow in women and children? As for that team with the rioters, relegate those cretins.

Not if the overal security is the problem. That would just endanger the women and children.

How?

Just wondering, would banning all adult males from the stadium potentially cause conflict outside of the stadium?

Laurencio wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:League definitely needs to be suspended for some time as a cooling period. Would it be possible to pull a Fernabahce and only allow in women and children? As for that team with the rioters, relegate those cretins.

Not if the overal security is the problem. That would just endanger the women and children.

Someone said it was planned? Definitely something sinister to it, couldn't be that stupid.

Benitez wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

Not if the overal security is the problem. That would just endanger the women and children.

How?

How would you prevent angry rioters from getting in if security is the problem? Imagine how angry they would get if they weren't allowed into the stadium.

Laurencio wrote:

Benitez wrote:

How?

How would you prevent angry rioters from getting in if security is the problem? Imagine how angry they would get if they weren't allowed into the stadium.

There have been a few closed door matches this season. At one of Zamalek's closed door matches, some fans managed to break in the stadium. Security is absolute shit in the country right now. This is a bigger issue than football.

ahlycotc wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

How would you prevent angry rioters from getting in if security is the problem? Imagine how angry they would get if they weren't allowed into the stadium.

There have been a few closed door matches this season. At one of Zamalek's closed door matches, some fans managed to break in the stadium. Security is absolute shit in the country right now. This is a bigger issue than football.

Indeed it is. No one managed to take control of the military yet then?

Laurencio wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

There have been a few closed door matches this season. At one of Zamalek's closed door matches, some fans managed to break in the stadium. Security is absolute shit in the country right now. This is a bigger issue than football.

Indeed it is. No one managed to take control of the military yet then?

We just had the lower house of Parliament finish their elections. But the power is still in the hand of the Army.

Just Heard about this canceling the league is probably the right decision until the country can sort itself out.

This guy's feed makes for some disturbing reading.

https://twitter.com/#!/Gharbawy

Rei Andros wrote:This guy's feed makes for some disturbing reading.

https://twitter.com/#!/Gharbawy

Sickening if what he's saying is true.

Rei Andros wrote:This guy's feed makes for some disturbing reading.

https://twitter.com/#!/Gharbawy

I wouldn't be surprised. It's not the first time the military got themselves involved in the killing of innocents.

ayvee1 wrote:

Rei Andros wrote:This guy's feed makes for some disturbing reading.

https://twitter.com/#!/Gharbawy

Sickening if what he's saying is true.

fuck this planet.

Wow. Just crazy shit man.

this was headline news in NZ.

Idiots man (the people involved)

Egypt is just in shambles. Absolute mess. Rebellions are all fun and games over there when they're happening, but nobody in the country had a plan for anything. Thus, the military swoops in.

Soccer should be used to unite, not riot. Egyptians, get out your pen and take notes on Sierra Leone (I think) stopping a civil war because of the World Cup.

Almighty Ra will have vengeance for these actions.

How could one allow anything like this to happen with no security presence at all? Especially if this game has been a problem in the past. Fireworks, stones, metal bars, and knives were all used. This was not football this was war as one fan was quoted.

The Egyptian FA board has been sacked following the catastrophic events of Port-Said, Prime Minister Kamal Al-Ganzouri announced.

Al-Ganzouri announced the decision in a brief speech at the People’s Assembly on Thursday, adding that Samir Zaher’s board will be put under immediate investigation.

Al-Ganzouri also announced sacking Port-Said governor Ahmed Abdullah and suspending the city’s chief of security and chief of police.

Ahli have announced a three-day mourning at the club in the wake of the deadly events that marred the team’s game with Masri, vowing not to forgive what happened in Port-Said.

“The board will announce mourning for three days at the club where all sports activities will be suspended,” Ahli board member Khaled Mortagi told the club’s satellite channel.

Zamalek’s website also announced the club’s support to arch-rivals Ahli following the disaster, stating that sports activities are suspended indefinitely.

The Whites’ game with Ismaili has been called off at half time, following a request from manager Hassan Shehata upon learning the news from Port-Said.

In the same manner, Ismaili have suspended sports activities for three days.

Weather130 wrote:How could one allow anything like this to happen with no security presence at all? Especially if this game has been a problem in the past. Fireworks, stones, metal bars, and knives were all used. This was not football this was war as one fan was quoted.

Sadly, it's in the best interest of the police and army.

What was sad was that there was some police there, but they did absolutely nothing.

Mustangt125 wrote:Egypt is just in shambles. Absolute mess. Rebellions are all fun and games over there when they're happening, but nobody in the country had a plan for anything. Thus, the military swoops in.

Soccer should be used to unite, not riot. Egyptians, get out your pen and take notes on Sierra Leone (I think) stopping a civil war because of the World Cup.

Almighty Ra will have vengeance for these actions.

There isn't a civil war going on in Egypt. And we did have a plan for succession, but the Military isn't playing along.

And the country you are thinking of is Ivory Coast.

Al Ahly president Hassan Hamdy says players want portions of their wages donated monthly to the families of the victims.

The players have acted beyond their requirement since this has started. I've been impressed.

Was this just revenge by the military or did this had any strategical reasoning for taking place?

This can only enrage the Ahly Ultras, no?

In Communist Poland, when the Police started shooting the fans, it almost started an all out war against the Police until the military stepped in and actually fought the Police alongside the hooligans until things quelled down.

@Mustang

You do realize that Egypt has never known true democracy (whatever that means these days), right? They overthrew a guy who had been in power for thirty years. Mubarak won every election in what was a closed, corrupt, and virtually autocratic political system in which he almost always gained 85-90% of the vote.

Also, many of us in the West that live in a dreamland, expect all states in that region to be on our page almost overnight in regards to democratization. The fact of the matter is, Nasser, Sadat, and Mubarak (post-monarchy presidents) were all former military men. Thus, it's no surprise that the military was one of the strongest political players even after Mubarak's fall. It's an institution that has been very strong for over half a century.

Despite all of this, there are encouraging signs that a democratic system may yet prevail. They've had some parliamentary elections recently and the lack of security present at this football match will put increased pressure on the military that's being viewed as a culprit in this instance. Sure, there wasn't much security at the match (by the look of it) but the warning signs for trouble were all there. And the cops/forces that were present, did absolutely jack shit when the fans stormed the pitch.

Lu❣s Suarez wrote:Was this just revenge by the military or did this had any strategical reasoning for taking place?

This can only enrage the Ahly Ultras, no?

In Communist Poland, when the Police started shooting the fans, it almost started an all out war against the Police until the military stepped in and actually fought the Police alongside the hooligans until things quelled down.

Obviously it's tough to say the exact reasoning behind this because an investigation hasn't been completed. But early signs are showing the military had a hand in it. I can't say the following is 100% true, but here is what is being said...

Several Masry fans have come out and said there were strange people sitting in the stand behind the goals (this is where the Ultras sit) that were trying to provoke security and encourage fans to storm the pitch. They also claimed the stadium personel allowed people in the stadium without checking for tickets or weapons. Then after the game, the security that was there opened the gates that separated the two fans and just stood there watching what was going on. Even the Ahly players barely got protection.

The sacking of the FA by the government could lead FIFA to suspend Egypt from FIFA, but Samir Zaher and the EFA said they would not file a complaint to FIFA.

That is a scary scenario that you have described -- the army/others provoking violence.