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    Strikers debate. With a Suarez vs Tores poll. :/

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    Post by luke. Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:47 am

    grenade187 wrote:
    LFCJordan wrote:Torres has been shit all this season, even thoo he has 9 goals or something.

    Luke said that aswell in another thread but a couple of Liverpool fans were saying he was in great form before he joined Chelsea and started calling him stupid like usual

    Exactly Rolling Eyes
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    Post by luke. Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:48 am

    Scott wrote:If Torres was still @ Liverpool, all these Mancs and Chelsea fans would be singing a different tune Laughing

    So would you you mug.
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    Post by Hernandez_14 Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:49 am

    Suarez is ace, but Torres is a proven goalscorer.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:49 am

    luke. wrote:
    Scott wrote:If Torres was still @ Liverpool, all these Mancs and Chelsea fans would be singing a different tune Laughing

    So would you you mug.

    Chill your beans Neutral
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:49 am

    grenade187 wrote:
    LFCJordan wrote:Torres has been shit all this season, even thoo he has 9 goals or something.

    Luke said that aswell in another thread but a couple of Liverpool fans were saying he was in great form before he joined Chelsea and started calling him stupid like usual

    He wasn't in great form at all. He was better. Better.

    He was still sulking around and adding nothing to the game on most occasions.
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    Post by luke. Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:51 am

    Dan wrote:
    grenade187 wrote:
    LFCJordan wrote:Torres has been shit all this season, even thoo he has 9 goals or something.

    Luke said that aswell in another thread but a couple of Liverpool fans were saying he was in great form before he joined Chelsea and started calling him stupid like usual

    He wasn't in great form at all. He was better. Better.

    He was still sulking around and adding nothing to the game on most occasions.

    I said, Torres wasn't on his best form before joining Chelsea.

    Got called stupid etc.. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:51 am

    Braad wrote:Suarez is ace, but Torres is a proven goalscorer.

    Shevenko was a proven goal scorer.
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    Post by Dean Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:52 am

    Dan wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:
    Dan wrote:

    Will he? Part of what made him a success was his pace, he doesn't seem to have that extra yard anymore. Even when his form picked up with us, it was obvious it wasn't there. It hasn't really been for over a year. If he's lost that, he could turn out like Owen.

    It's generally what happens to these pacy strikers that start their careers young, they burn out young as well.
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    Anyways, yes I think he will be. Suarez hasn't done much to reach Torres status, like a year ago or so...people were listing Torres as the best in England but I believe is just lack of confidence after that abysmal world cup. Torres will return and will be even better than he was.

    Ronaldo Ronaldo or Cristiano Ronaldo?

    Sorry, but firstly Suarez is younger than Torres - he hasn't had the chance to prove it yet. Secondly, Suarez ripped his previous league apart, I think that's quite a good start. Thirdly, it was a lack of confidence at us as well, it was a lack of confidence at the World Cup and now with Chelsea. Almost a year now. He's scored goals, is it really a lack of confidence, or is it something more serious?
    Torres beasted La Liga too but in his case he did it in a much advanced league. Torres was beasting for Liverpool before this season right? and he has a fantastic goal record for Liverpool..and yes it was lack of confidence in WC, if you see he never did what he used to like try and dribble past players of take shots from tight angles or even jump for headers and he always tried to pass right when he gets the ball etc..
    This happens all the time, I'm sure you should understand this if you play for a team because there is one point you are scoring for fun and next you are playing terrible and having bad touches here and there. Don't worry, Torres will be back and ruling the PL again.

    EDIT: btw dan, I meant the real ronaldo.

    Yes, I understand all that, however, I am saying it might just be more than a lack of confidence. Yes, he did have a good run in front of goal last season, but he wasn't the same player as he was in his first season. You suggest a lack of confidence, where did it start? He got injured on a decent run of form, came back without confidence? Even if he was lacking in confidence, he still scored plenty of goals for it to return. He never looked like a player who really suffered from a lack of confidence. He still tried doing these flicks he was doing in his 'prime'. Just it wasn't coming off for him. Why? That pace he once had has dimished. Injuries will have diminished it, he's not slow, but he's not as fast as he was.

    Like I said, it usually happens to pacy players that are thrown in 'too early'. It happens with loads. Owen was a perfect example. These young players, whose game is based predominently around pace are thrown in before their bodies are fully developed, therefore are prone to injury and burning out early. It happens too often to be a simple coincidence.

    I'm not saying that it definitely has happened to him, but he's not the same as he was, confidence or not.

    Top post Danny lad.
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    Post by Fanatic Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:53 am

    luke. wrote:
    Scott wrote:If Torres was still @ Liverpool, all these Mancs and Chelsea fans would be singing a different tune Laughing

    So would you, you mug.
    Better.

    Torres will never get back to his maximum speed again, once it's gone, it's gone. Even with the new training regime he is doing (Ancelotti said he's doing some training for his speed) it will never be the same as he has had too many major injuries/surgeries which have been detrimental to his pace. Taking torres' pace away from his game is an enormous factor.

    Don't think we will ever see the Torres' of 2007-08.
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    Post by El Jefe Mon Mar 21, 2011 6:57 am

    grenade187 wrote:Torres is the best goalscorer in the EPL. He has the best goal scoring ratio of all time he beat Henrys record which says something.
    Suarez is playing better at the moment and is younger yes, but overall I would say Torres is the better footballer.

    Gotta be Torres.
    He might be a better striker but he is definitely not a better footballer.
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    Post by Dean Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:00 am

    When it doesn't go his way (Torres) he sulks and goes into his little strop and in the end, just ends up becoming a liability to the team. That's a fact.

    And to back that up...

    Torres 8 goals, 6 yellow cards. He's nearly got as many yellow cards as goals this season and when he was a Liverpool player, he was second in the disciplinary table, only Skrtel had picked up more yellows all season.

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    Post by Ben Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:00 am

    Scott wrote:
    AriseForLife wrote:Torres easily. The Suarez fervor will wear off very soon.

    Neutral

    That makes sense Neutral
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:01 am

    Ben wrote:
    Scott wrote:
    AriseForLife wrote:Torres easily. The Suarez fervor will wear off very soon.

    Neutral

    That makes sense Neutral

    How?
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    Post by luke. Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:03 am

    Dean wrote:When it doesn't go his way (Torres) he sulks and goes into his little strop and in the end, just ends up becoming a liability to the team. That's a fact.

    And to back that up...

    Torres 8 goals, 6 yellow cards. He's nearly got as many yellow cards as goals this season and when he was a Liverpool player, he was second in the disciplinary table, only Skrtel had picked up more yellows all season.


    Hence what everyone has said about his poor confidence...
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:03 am

    Scott wrote:
    Ben wrote:
    Scott wrote:
    AriseForLife wrote:Torres easily. The Suarez fervor will wear off very soon.

    Neutral

    That makes sense Neutral

    How?
    How not? Dry Smile
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:04 am

    kyro7 wrote:
    Scott wrote:
    Ben wrote:
    Scott wrote:
    AriseForLife wrote:Torres easily. The Suarez fervor will wear off very soon.

    Neutral

    That makes sense Neutral

    How?
    How not? Dry Smile

    He obviously mean fever.
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    Post by Fanatic Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:04 am

    Scott wrote:
    Ben wrote:
    Scott wrote:
    AriseForLife wrote:Torres easily. The Suarez fervor will wear off very soon.

    Neutral

    That makes sense Neutral

    How?
    It does.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:05 am

    kyro7 wrote:
    Scott wrote:
    Ben wrote:
    Scott wrote:
    AriseForLife wrote:Torres easily. The Suarez fervor will wear off very soon.

    Neutral

    That makes sense Neutral

    How?
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    Post by Fanatic Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:05 am

    Scott wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Scott wrote:
    Ben wrote:
    Scott wrote:

    Neutral

    That makes sense Neutral

    How?
    How not? Dry Smile

    He obviously mean fever.
    Fervor could also mean passionate enthusiasm/excitement. fail.


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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:05 am

    Scott wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Scott wrote:
    Ben wrote:
    Scott wrote:

    Neutral

    That makes sense Neutral

    How?
    How not? Dry Smile

    He obviously mean fever.
    Or, he might have meant fervor what he actually put, and you're not as smart as you think you are?
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    Post by luke. Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:05 am

    Scott wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Scott wrote:
    Ben wrote:
    Scott wrote:

    Neutral

    That makes sense Neutral

    How?
    How not? Dry Smile

    He obviously mean fever.

    Oh the irony of you calling me stupid..
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:05 am

    Scott wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    Scott wrote:
    Ben wrote:
    Scott wrote:

    Neutral

    That makes sense Neutral

    How?
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    He obviously mean fever.

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    Post by Ben Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:06 am

    Laughing Nice one Scotty.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:07 am

    Lol I am willing to bet that all of you googled it.
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    Post by luke. Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:08 am

    Scott wrote:Lol I am willing to bet that all of you googled it.

    Don't try and mask your stupidity by turning it back on us.

    You tried to act like a smartass and failed rofl
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    Post by blackskar Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:08 am

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fervor
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    Post by Hitchy Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:10 am

    Scott is embarrassingly bitter. Watch out though, me calling him bitter automatically means that I'm being bitter as well for some reason
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:10 am

    Scott wrote:Lol I am willing to bet that all of you googled it.
    Mate, even if some people googled it.. it's okay because they weren't trying to be smart.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 21, 2011 7:11 am

    luke. wrote:
    Scott wrote:Lol I am willing to bet that all of you googled it.

    Don't try and mask your stupidity by turning it back on us.

    You tried to act like a smartass and failed rofl

    Stupidity? Ariseforlife is known to make silly grammatical errors.

    It was a very poor use of the word Fervor if he did use it intentionally. Very badly worded.

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