andy gray on sky : "messi wouldnt cut it against stoke"

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Pablo Sarabia wrote:It's because like Jamie said whoever wins the Premier League this season will be the weakest Champion ever.

Partly true. It's also because the teams below the regular 'top 4' have become alot stronger in the last few years.

Not really..

Errr yah really:

City - Better
Spurs - Better
Bolton - Better
Sunderland - Better

Yeah but you're right none of them have looked better in recent years at all have they.

blackskar wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Pablo Sarabia wrote:It's because like Jamie said whoever wins the Premier League this season will be the weakest Champion ever.

Partly true. It's also because the teams below the regular 'top 4' have become alot stronger in the last few years.

Not really..

Errr yah really:

City - Better
Spurs - Better
Bolton - Better
Sunderland - Better

Yeah but you're right none of them have looked better in recent years at all have they.

Everton & Villa are getting better too, just not got the results on the field this season.

blackskar wrote:
Errr yah really:

City - Better
Spurs - Better
Bolton - Better
Sunderland - Better

Yeah but you're right none of them have looked better in recent years at all have they.

Tbh, most teams in the Prem are better than they have been.

Andy Gray is a biased cunt and Sky must be paying him lots to say such things.

The EPL is nowhere near as good as La Liga when you match teams against each other based on final league positions.

Looking at last seasons table I reckon only 6 EPL teams could beat the teams that finished in the same position in La Liga.

Danny wrote:

blackskar wrote:
Errr yah really:

City - Better
Spurs - Better
Bolton - Better
Sunderland - Better

Yeah but you're right none of them have looked better in recent years at all have they.

Tbh, most teams in the Prem are better than they have been.

Exactly, so to say that the current league table is purely down to the top teams being shitter than ever is ridiculous

blackskar wrote:

Danny wrote:

blackskar wrote:
Errr yah really:

City - Better
Spurs - Better
Bolton - Better
Sunderland - Better

Yeah but you're right none of them have looked better in recent years at all have they.

Tbh, most teams in the Prem are better than they have been.

Exactly, so to say that the current league table is purely down to the top teams being shitter than ever is ridiculous

Exactly. The top teams (tbh, only United, Chelsea and Liverpool) have decreased, United and Chelsea not so much, while the majority of the other 17 have increased in quality, making for one of the most exciting league seasons we've had in a while. For me, certainly more than La Liga.

Most of the quotes you used are bullshit

Cameron|94 wrote:Most of the quotes you used are bullshit

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Cameron|94 wrote:Most of the quotes you used are bullshit

brand new quote just release from gray

"I didn't say those things about Messi not being good enough for Stoke."

"Whoever's spread it around via Twitter and other internet websites are doing it falsely."

"I never said that he wouldn't be good enough to beat Stoke, I said he wouldn't be good enough to get into their first team which is 100% true fact."

"Pigs will fly when Messi is even close to being as good as Jones and Fuller"

mauro wrote:brand new quote just release from gray

"I Didn't say those things about Messi not being good enough for Stoke."

"Whoever's spread it around via Twitter and other internet websites are doing it falsely."

I never said that he wouldn't be good enough to beat Stoke, I said he wouldn't be good enough to get into their first team which is 100% true fact."

"Pigs will fly when Messi is even close to being as good as Jones and Fuller"

:troll:

Were any of the quotes you used true?

Ben10 wrote:Were any of the quotes you used true?

We've been had haven't we?

Danny wrote:

Ben10 wrote:Were any of the quotes you used true?

We've been had haven't we?

Nah, I said 'if that's true then it's stupid'. The rest of the argument had nothing to do with the quotes

Ben10 wrote:

Danny wrote:

Ben10 wrote:Were any of the quotes you used true?

We've been had haven't we?

Nah, I said 'if that's true then it's stupid'. The rest of the argument had nothing to do with the quotes

Yeah, I mean... none of us saw another La Liga v Premier League arguement happening

Ben10 wrote:Were any of the quotes you used true?

From reading through his thread, this is the only thing I can actually remember Andy Gray saying
"Ronaldo would not be the player that he is today had he not played in English football, he has it all to thank." and even then it wasn't just as blunt as that, he went into more depth.

lol sorry guys

well some a true

bold is true

"Messi? He wouldn't cut it here, he would struggle in a cold night at
the Britiannia Stadium. I'd fancy Stoke to shut him down pretty quickly,
Messi is without a doubt a fantastic player but do you think he would
be able to run around defenders like he does over there in the Premier
League? Fat chance."

"Barcelona would struggle in the EPL as
they've never played the likes of Stoke before have they? They might be
able to score against lowly Spanish opposition but coming up against a
team like Stoke or Wolves is something different."

"You only just have to look at how frequently Messi and Ronaldo score in Spain - Key's interrupts - "But Ronaldo scored 31 from 34 in a season at United?"

Gray replies - "I realize that, but it was a one-off."

"La
Liga just doesn't have the same depth in quality that the Premier
League has these days. I'd fancy West Ham against any bottom half team
in La Liga, maybe even the likes of Atletico and Villarreal"

"Ronaldo would not be the player that he is today had he not played in
English football, he has it all to thank."

Cameron|94 wrote:

Ben10 wrote:Were any of the quotes you used true?

From reading through his thread, this is the only thing I can actually remember Andy Gray saying
"Ronaldo would not be the player that he is today had he not played in English football, he has it all to thank." and even then it wasn't just as blunt as that, he went into more depth.

Fuck thanking English football.

Should be thanking us

well ronaldo was one of best young player in world at that time. if he not going to man u he would of went to another big club. is havign to be complete blind to ignore such a talent

sure he could of flop if he went somewhere else. some still say whwat if quaresma went to ac milan instead of barcelona years ago, maybe his career might be better right now. but u neve rknow

Tbh, he has us to thank. We made him the player he is. He isn't even as good as he was with us

Danny wrote:Tbh, he has us to thank. We made him the player he is. He isn't even as good as he was with us

very debatable

for me he is much better right now. he just unfourtunate that 1 superior player having to exist at same time as him or else he would be best in world right now

Yeah. But watch the way he played in his last 3 seasons at United- particularly in 07/08, and watch him for Madrid now.

He was far more exciting at United.

(polskaGOLA) wrote:

Ben10 wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:
Bale is overrated, the likes of Neville can stop him.

And proof of this is where?

When they last played and you wouldn't even notice Bale was in the game?

Interestingly enough, I believe it was between the Inter fixtures, or right before it.

Bale is overrated for his Inter performances. I've explained in the past, something just clicked tactically and the result was Bale raping Inter.

I won't rate Bale as highly as others do until he repeats his performances week in and out in the EPL.

Harry Redknapp doesn't believe in tactics, you fail.

Bale obviously wasn't going to perform straight after a European game, where Spurs are known to struggle..

Plus, look at all his great performances, stop just taking out the bad ones, I could take a bad Messi performance and call him overrated..

Are you being serious Mauro?

About the new quotes, that is. You all write so fast.

Messi did fuck all against Hercules! Awful player!

Danny wrote:Yeah. But watch the way he played in his last 3 seasons at United- particularly in 07/08, and watch him for Madrid now.

He was far more exciting at United.

More exciting is not equal to better, have you seen his goal scoring record with Madrid? Come on son.

dena wrote:

Danny wrote:Yeah. But watch the way he played in his last 3 seasons at United- particularly in 07/08, and watch him for Madrid now.

He was far more exciting at United.

More exciting is not equal to better, have you seen his goal scoring record with Madrid? Come on son.

Of course I have. He seems machine like though. Far less runs, beating defenders for fun, fancy flicks, skills and stepovers etc..

Have you been watching him? I ask this seriously.

Yeah. It was talked about a few weeks ago. Me, Jamie and Kyro all agreed he isn't as exciting to watch, and he's not quite as good. He's certainly not better.

I disagree completely, just youtubed "Ronaldo skills" and saw a video made in Sept. of 2009 (barely played any league games) and you can see the step overs galore, I haven't noticed any difference at all, as for a better player? The dude has 55 goals in 59 games for Madrid, better than his GPG he had at his Ballon D'or year. But uh, I'll leave it at that, I know you Ronaldo bummers would never admit to him being a better player (or more complete player, whatever) now.