andy gray on sky : "messi wouldnt cut it against stoke"

"Messi? He wouldn't cut it here, he would struggle in a cold night at the Britiannia Stadium. I'd fancy Stoke to shut him down pretty quickly, Messi is without a doubt a fantastic player but do you think he would be able to run around defenders like he does over there in the Premier League? Fat chance."

"Barcelona would struggle in the EPL as they've never played the likes of Stoke before have they? They might be able to score against lowly Spanish opposition but coming up against a team like Stoke or Wolves is something different."

"You only just have to look at how frequently Messi and Ronaldo score in Spain - Key's interrupts - "But Ronaldo scored 31 from 34 in a season at United?"

Gray replies - "I realize that, but it was a one-off."

"La Liga just doesn't have the same depth in quality that the Premier League has these days. I'd fancy West Ham against any bottom half team in La Liga, maybe even the likes of Atletico and Villarreal"

"Ronaldo would not be the player that he is today had he not played in
English football, he has it all to thank."

feel sorry for more intelligent british peoples into this forum that may feeling misrepresented by this bald baffoon. stupid british mentality

I agree ... Messi's shite and overrated tbh

Well done Andy you twat

i rememeber benq made funny comment like gray did like last year about stoke being tto hard for messi yet very sarcastically

but there is actualy people in earth that beleive this? andy gray no less? nice

this is a man who farts live on tv

he having no credibility!

Is this actually true?

gray obvious never seeing bilbao playing before

they were not call butchers of bilbao for no reason!

bilbao style of play would making stoke look like weeners yet barcelona own them every time

Jelavic18|RFC wrote:I agree ... Messi's shite and overrated tbh

Joke?

Oh, my, god. Are they being serious?

Spanish teams have always done it over PL sides, Seville x Spurs, Atletico x Fulham and that friendly when Barca YOUTH man handled Spurs....etc.

Messi would run riot against Stoke....easily...

No chance was that a fart it was a small vibration It could have been a txt message if his phone was lying on the table

mauro wrote:gray obvious never seeing bilbao playing before

they were not call butchers of bilbao for no reason!

bilbao style of play would making stoke look like weeners yet barcelona own them every time

Bilbao is just though.

They can do the impossible and make Stoke's football look sexy.

mauro wrote:gray obvious never seeing bilbao playing before

they were not call butchers of bilbao for no reason!

bilbao style of play would making stoke look like weeners yet barcelona own them every time

Ben10 wrote:

Jelavic18|RFC wrote:I agree ... Messi's shite and overrated tbh

Joke?

Obviously

oh and another quote that was there because the other host asked gray and gray only replied with 1 sentence but

keys said to gray

"would you say the epl match up close with la liga technically?"

gray="in my opinion the epl is just as good, if not better"

mauro wrote:
"La Liga just doesn't have the same depth in quality that the Premier League has these days. I'd fancy West Ham against any bottom half team in La Liga, maybe even the likes of Atletico and Villarreal"

This year, United couldn't beat Valencia at home, and got a close 1-0 win at the Mestalla. Two years ago, United could not score against Villarreal, home or away. That same year, Liverpool couldn't overturn Atletico Madrid home or away, and needy a dodgy, dodgy penalty to even get the point at home.

Am I really supposed to believe that West Ham is equivalent to the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea, Mr. Gray?

chiboygeorge wrote:

Spanish teams have always done it over PL sides, Seville x Spurs, Atletico x Fulham and that friendly when Barca YOUTH man handled Spurs....etc.

Messi would run riot against Stoke....easily...

This was when Sevilla were 3rd best in Spain and Spurs were about 8th though. And everyone knows Atletico are stronger than Fulham.

Ben10 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Spanish teams have always done it over PL sides, Seville x Spurs, Atletico x Fulham and that friendly when Barca YOUTH man handled Spurs....etc.

Messi would run riot against Stoke....easily...

This was when Sevilla were 3rd best in Spain and Spurs were about 8th though. And everyone knows Atletico are stronger than Fulham.

Atlético vs Liverpool

"La Liga is an easier league to play in if you're Barcelona as no team pressures you high up the pitch like Stoke does and it is also no more technical than the Premiership anyway, infact in my opinion, the Premiership is superior in a lot of aspects."

"I don't watch La Liga daily or anything like that, but I don't need to as I know what it's like"

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

Ben10 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Spanish teams have always done it over PL sides, Seville x Spurs, Atletico x Fulham and that friendly when Barca YOUTH man handled Spurs....etc.

Messi would run riot against Stoke....easily...

This was when Sevilla were 3rd best in Spain and Spurs were about 8th though. And everyone knows Atletico are stronger than Fulham.

Atlético vs Liverpool

Yeah that one's fair. Just pointing out that he was using unfair comparisons

Ben10 wrote:

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

Ben10 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Spanish teams have always done it over PL sides, Seville x Spurs, Atletico x Fulham and that friendly when Barca YOUTH man handled Spurs....etc.

Messi would run riot against Stoke....easily...

This was when Sevilla were 3rd best in Spain and Spurs were about 8th though. And everyone knows Atletico are stronger than Fulham.

Atlético vs Liverpool

Yeah that one's fair. Just pointing out that he was using unfair comparisons

Sevilla was like 5th though when it happened.

mauro wrote:"La Liga is an easier league to play in if you're Barcelona as no team pressures you high up the pitch like Stoke does and it is also no more technical than the Premiership anyway, infact in my opinion, the Premiership is superior in a lot of aspects."

"I don't watch La Liga daily or anything like that, but I don't need to as I know what it's like"

Right, this guy is an idiot.

Ben10 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Spanish teams have always done it over PL sides, Seville x Spurs, Atletico x Fulham and that friendly when Barca YOUTH man handled Spurs....etc.

Messi would run riot against Stoke....easily...

This was when Sevilla were 3rd best in Spain and Spurs were about 8th though. And everyone knows Atletico are stronger than Fulham.

Spurs finished 5th that season.

So what if Atletico is stronger than Fulham? fact is Premier League teams can't keep up with La Liga teams.

IMO Spurs are at the level of Athletic Bilbao.

In terms of player quality anyway.

Iraola would shit on Bale
Yeste isn't that worse than Modric
Martinez would more than keep RVP in check
and Spurs' forwards would struggle against De Marcos and Amorebieta
Than they would have to face Fernando Llorente ( ) upfront.

It's a fairly comparable comparison of two teams.

Now keep in mind that Spurs came 4th last season, and Bilbao 8th.

La Liga's top half teams would give huge problems to Chelsea/Arsenal/United/City IMO.

Andy Gray is a daft cunt.

Sevilla finished 3rd

(polskaGOLA) wrote:IMO Spurs are at the level of Athletic Bilbao.

In terms of player quality anyway.

Iraola would shit on Bale
Yeste isn't that worse than Modric
Martinez would more than keep RVP in check
and Spurs' forwards would struggle against De Marcos and Amorebieta
Than they would have to face Fernando Llorente ( ) upfront.

It's a fairly comparable comparison of two teams.

Now keep in mind that Spurs came 4th last season, and Bilbao 8th.

La Liga's top half teams would give huge problems to Chelsea/Arsenal/United/City IMO.

Andy Gray is a daft cunt.

Amorebieta, most of this forum probably doesn't even know him, he should be a Spanish International tbh, also think he's better than Albiol, Marchena and such.

Amorebieta is Venezuelan born.

Ben10 wrote:Sevilla finished 3rd

5th, one of the games was played on april 2007, which is season 06/07 where they finished 5th.

(polskaGOLA) wrote:Amorebieta is Venezuelan born.

Still opted for Spain though