I signed it because its right they should know what happened.Cam wrote:You either sign the petition or you don't, simple. You don't need to be causing arguments and swearing at people
They opened gates to let people out of those pens Dan.Dan wrote:Chris wrote:True, lets get back on subject.Dan wrote:Chris wrote:Well type what you mean then you stupid prick.Dan wrote:I meant without tickets didn't I you prat, it's pretty bleeding obvious.
Like you've never made a typo before.
If there were not enough fans there to cause a crush and a crush happened you must be wrong.
The crush was caused because the police didn't direct people away from the over-crowded pens.
The Bat-Man wrote:At least Chris's got a prick, unlike most of the Liverpool bunch.
The Bat-Man wrote:At least Chris's got a prick, unlike most of the Liverpool bunch.
Chris wrote:They opened gates to let people out of those pens Dan.Dan wrote:Chris wrote:True, lets get back on subject.Dan wrote:Chris wrote:
Well type what you mean then you stupid prick.
Like you've never made a typo before.
If there were not enough fans there to cause a crush and a crush happened you must be wrong.
The crush was caused because the police didn't direct people away from the over-crowded pens.
Then more Liverpool fans forced their way IN those gates which made it worse.
Jay wrote:It's getting like another 500 signatures every 20 minutes
The Bat-Man wrote:Anyways, signed for the truth.
Mutant123 wrote:The Bat-Man wrote:Anyways, signed for the truth.
It said a few pages back you can only sign it if you're in the UK.
How did you manage to sign it?
BigAndy9 wrote:Jay wrote:It's getting like another 500 signatures every 20 minutes
Most of it down to Barton, you seen him on twitter?
Cadbury wrote:Michael Owen retweeted it
Chris wrote:True, lets get back on subject.Dan wrote:Chris wrote:Well type what you mean then you stupid prick.Dan wrote:I meant without tickets didn't I you prat, it's pretty bleeding obvious.
Like you've never made a typo before.
If there were not enough fans there to cause a crush and a crush happened you must be wrong.
I find it crazy how so many Liverpool fans forget the main point of the crush. Fans without tickets force their way into the ground through gates opened to let people OUT.Dan wrote:Chris wrote:They opened gates to let people out of those pens Dan.Dan wrote:Chris wrote:True, lets get back on subject.Dan wrote:
Like you've never made a typo before.
If there were not enough fans there to cause a crush and a crush happened you must be wrong.
The crush was caused because the police didn't direct people away from the over-crowded pens.
Then more Liverpool fans forced their way IN those gates which made it worse.
You haven't got a clue.
There was a crush outside, the police opened the gates to allow more though (later Duckenfield claimed that Liverpool fans had broken down the gates). However, what they didn't do was direct fans away from the over-crowded pens, into the emptier pens either side. All pens would have held the number that was there. The fatal error was keeping fans out of the over-crowded areas.
Read some of the survivors stories, then you'll have an idea what happened.
The Bat-Man wrote:Mutant123 wrote:The Bat-Man wrote:Anyways, signed for the truth.
It said a few pages back you can only sign it if you're in the UK.
How did you manage to sign it?
Wait you have to sign on another site and not just say here signed?
Silly me.
Link me, I've got my ways.
Chris wrote:I find it crazy how so many Liverpool fans forget the main point of the crush. Fans without tickets force their way into the ground through gates opened to let people OUT.Dan wrote:Chris wrote:They opened gates to let people out of those pens Dan.Dan wrote:Chris wrote:
True, lets get back on subject.
If there were not enough fans there to cause a crush and a crush happened you must be wrong.
The crush was caused because the police didn't direct people away from the over-crowded pens.
Then more Liverpool fans forced their way IN those gates which made it worse.
You haven't got a clue.
There was a crush outside, the police opened the gates to allow more though (later Duckenfield claimed that Liverpool fans had broken down the gates). However, what they didn't do was direct fans away from the over-crowded pens, into the emptier pens either side. All pens would have held the number that was there. The fatal error was keeping fans out of the over-crowded areas.
Read some of the survivors stories, then you'll have an idea what happened.
Why is that obvious fact and cause of the crush pushed aside? Because it can't be the poor fans fault.. has to be the police.
Dan wrote:RR, this is not about blame. This is about the shambles of the aftermath.
RobbieSavageIsA... wrote:If those gates weren't opened, you'd end up with casualties outside. Damned if they did, damned if they didn't.
Dan wrote:RobbieSavageIsA... wrote:If those gates weren't opened, you'd end up with casualties outside. Damned if they did, damned if they didn't.
Wrong. If they had opened the gates, and simply put someone in front of the over-crowded pen telling people to 'move to the others, because this is full' there would have been no casualties at all.
That simple, but the authorities missed that.
RobbieSavageIsA... wrote:Dan wrote:RobbieSavageIsA... wrote:If those gates weren't opened, you'd end up with casualties outside. Damned if they did, damned if they didn't.
Wrong. If they had opened the gates, and simply put someone in front of the over-crowded pen telling people to 'move to the others, because this is full' there would have been no casualties at all.
That simple, but the authorities missed that.
If you already know all this, what more information is there to be had? I don't get what this petition is for.
BigAndy9 wrote:RobbieSavageIsA... wrote:Dan wrote:RobbieSavageIsA... wrote:If those gates weren't opened, you'd end up with casualties outside. Damned if they did, damned if they didn't.
Wrong. If they had opened the gates, and simply put someone in front of the over-crowded pen telling people to 'move to the others, because this is full' there would have been no casualties at all.
That simple, but the authorities missed that.
If you already know all this, what more information is there to be had? I don't get what this petition is for.
Fuck off and worry about your own shitty small club. sign it or fuck off
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