Alex Ferguson charged by the FA for improper conduct

Because Abramovich pays him to do it.

Got it?

Danny wrote:

Dan wrote:

Danny wrote:

Dan wrote:

I actually think any touchline ban would be ridiculous

Why? He broke the rules again.

He's basically said the referee wasn't good enough, which is true

He says nothing when the ref gives a decision for him practically every other week. Then, a ref makes a mistake and actually gives something against his side..


Yeah, Fergie was right to criticise, the ref broke the 'Fergie rules' after all.

Dan wrote:

Danny wrote:

Dan wrote:

Danny wrote:

Dan wrote:

I actually think any touchline ban would be ridiculous

Why? He broke the rules again.

He's basically said the referee wasn't good enough, which is true

He says nothing when the ref gives a decision for him practically every other week. Then, a ref makes a mistake and actually gives something against his side..


Yeah, Fergie was right to criticise, the ref broke the 'Fergie rules' after all.

What do you expect him to say when a questionable decision goes our away? Complain about it?

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:Deserves it for attacking the ref tbh.

No need to pretty much assault the job they're doing publicly.

I think there is a need personally.. the only thing wrong is how he defended Rooney, I agree with what he said about the ref.

He may be right about the ref, but it's wrong to attack the referees integrity publicly. At the very least he could have just seen him privately and said he felt that such and such should have happened, or even just say, some decisions went against us, and that could have changed the game, or some shize. Not come out all guns blazing against him.

Sean wrote:Could just leave the forum?

Too easy. I'm not the cowardly type who runs away from his problems. I wait for the sun to blow them up for me.

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:Deserves it for attacking the ref tbh.

No need to pretty much assault the job they're doing publicly.

I think there is a need personally.. the only thing wrong is how he defended Rooney, I agree with what he said about the ref.

He may be right about the ref, but it's wrong to attack the referees integrity publicly. At the very least he could have just seen him privately and said he felt that such and such should have happened, or even just say, some decisions went against us, and that could have changed the game, or some shize. Not come out all guns blazing against him.

Nah I think he's right to attack the ref's.

Just like when Roberto Martinez said "if one of our players done what Rooney done he'd be sent off".

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:Deserves it for attacking the ref tbh.

No need to pretty much assault the job they're doing publicly.

I think there is a need personally.. the only thing wrong is how he defended Rooney, I agree with what he said about the ref.

He may be right about the ref, but it's wrong to attack the referees integrity publicly. At the very least he could have just seen him privately and said he felt that such and such should have happened, or even just say, some decisions went against us, and that could have changed the game, or some shize. Not come out all guns blazing against him.

Nah I think he's right to attack the ref's.

Just like when Roberto Martinez said "if one of our players done what Rooney done he'd be sent off".

It's a bit different though, did Martinez actually attack the ref for that game? No.

Also, he's probably right anyway.

What he said about the ref was pretty much ok. Atkinson is a wank ref, he's had a few shockers against us in recent years, including Tuesday. What else was Fergie going to say?

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:Deserves it for attacking the ref tbh.

No need to pretty much assault the job they're doing publicly.

I think there is a need personally.. the only thing wrong is how he defended Rooney, I agree with what he said about the ref.

He may be right about the ref, but it's wrong to attack the referees integrity publicly. At the very least he could have just seen him privately and said he felt that such and such should have happened, or even just say, some decisions went against us, and that could have changed the game, or some shize. Not come out all guns blazing against him.

Nah I think he's right to attack the ref's.

Just like when Roberto Martinez said "if one of our players done what Rooney done he'd be sent off".

It's a bit different though, did Martinez actually attack the ref for that game? No.

Also, he's probably right anyway.

Fergie is right though, you've just proved you don't like us and you're just going against us, so I wont discuss it any more with you.

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:Deserves it for attacking the ref tbh.

No need to pretty much assault the job they're doing publicly.

I think there is a need personally.. the only thing wrong is how he defended Rooney, I agree with what he said about the ref.

He may be right about the ref, but it's wrong to attack the referees integrity publicly. At the very least he could have just seen him privately and said he felt that such and such should have happened, or even just say, some decisions went against us, and that could have changed the game, or some shize. Not come out all guns blazing against him.

Nah I think he's right to attack the ref's.

Just like when Roberto Martinez said "if one of our players done what Rooney done he'd be sent off".

It's a bit different though, did Martinez actually attack the ref for that game? No.

Also, he's probably right anyway.

It's only different in degree of tone. In both Fergie's case and that case, the speaker is calling the integrity of the ref into question. Whether they are substantively correct or not is not the issue. Their impugning of the ref's character is the issue.

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:I think there is a need personally.. the only thing wrong is how he defended Rooney, I agree with what he said about the ref.

He may be right about the ref, but it's wrong to attack the referees integrity publicly. At the very least he could have just seen him privately and said he felt that such and such should have happened, or even just say, some decisions went against us, and that could have changed the game, or some shize. Not come out all guns blazing against him.

Nah I think he's right to attack the ref's.

Just like when Roberto Martinez said "if one of our players done what Rooney done he'd be sent off".

It's a bit different though, did Martinez actually attack the ref for that game? No.

Also, he's probably right anyway.

Fergie is right though, you've just proved you don't like us and you're just going against us, so I wont discuss it any more with you.

I never said his opinion wasn't right.

Just he was wrong to come out and attack the referee directly.

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

He may be right about the ref, but it's wrong to attack the referees integrity publicly. At the very least he could have just seen him privately and said he felt that such and such should have happened, or even just say, some decisions went against us, and that could have changed the game, or some shize. Not come out all guns blazing against him.

Nah I think he's right to attack the ref's.

Just like when Roberto Martinez said "if one of our players done what Rooney done he'd be sent off".

It's a bit different though, did Martinez actually attack the ref for that game? No.

Also, he's probably right anyway.

Fergie is right though, you've just proved you don't like us and you're just going against us, so I wont discuss it any more with you.

I never said his opinion wasn't right.

Just he was wrong to come out and attack the referee directly.

Then Martinez is wrong to come out and say the ref is biased in our favor, oh no wait it's allowed because it's against us right?

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:Nah I think he's right to attack the ref's.

Just like when Roberto Martinez said "if one of our players done what Rooney done he'd be sent off".

It's a bit different though, did Martinez actually attack the ref for that game? No.

Also, he's probably right anyway.

Fergie is right though, you've just proved you don't like us and you're just going against us, so I wont discuss it any more with you.

I never said his opinion wasn't right.

Just he was wrong to come out and attack the referee directly.

Then Martinez is wrong to come out and say the ref is biased in our favor, oh no wait it's allowed because it's against us right?

Assuming silly things to make you sound right kyro?

Not how it's done.

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

It's a bit different though, did Martinez actually attack the ref for that game? No.

Also, he's probably right anyway.

Fergie is right though, you've just proved you don't like us and you're just going against us, so I wont discuss it any more with you.

I never said his opinion wasn't right.

Just he was wrong to come out and attack the referee directly.

Then Martinez is wrong to come out and say the ref is biased in our favor, oh no wait it's allowed because it's against us right?

Assuming silly things to make you sound right kyro?

Not how it's done.

You defended Martinez and went against Fergie, which is why you're a prick.

Both are wrong but nothing will happen to Martinez.

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

He may be right about the ref, but it's wrong to attack the referees integrity publicly. At the very least he could have just seen him privately and said he felt that such and such should have happened, or even just say, some decisions went against us, and that could have changed the game, or some shize. Not come out all guns blazing against him.

Nah I think he's right to attack the ref's.

Just like when Roberto Martinez said "if one of our players done what Rooney done he'd be sent off".

It's a bit different though, did Martinez actually attack the ref for that game? No.

Also, he's probably right anyway.

Fergie is right though, you've just proved you don't like us and you're just going against us, so I wont discuss it any more with you.

I never said his opinion wasn't right.

Just he was wrong to come out and attack the referee directly.

Better to launch indirect flanking attacks instead, with a degree or two of inference and implication.

Martinez said if his player had done it, he'd have been sent off. That's basically saying the referee favours the bigger club (United), which is attacking his integrity...

And nothing will happen to him

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:Fergie is right though, you've just proved you don't like us and you're just going against us, so I wont discuss it any more with you.

I never said his opinion wasn't right.

Just he was wrong to come out and attack the referee directly.

Then Martinez is wrong to come out and say the ref is biased in our favor, oh no wait it's allowed because it's against us right?

Assuming silly things to make you sound right kyro?

Not how it's done.

You defended Martinez and went against Fergie, which is why you're a prick.

Both are wrong but nothing will happen to Martinez.

Martinez is right, whether it's against Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United, any big side is going to get a decision, and you can feel his frustration.

You're just going defensive and thinking i'm talking solely about United.

luke. wrote:Martinez is right, whether it's against Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United, any big side is going to get a decision, and you can feel his frustration.

You're just going defensive and thinking i'm talking solely about United.

Fergie is right as well.

My dad "Like his son Sir Alex is a grade a knob"

Santa Cruz wrote:My dad "Like his son Sir Alex is a grade a knob"

OH MY FUCKING GOD HAS YOUR DAD CONSIDERED STAND UP?

FUCKING AMAZING STUFF.

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:Martinez is right, whether it's against Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United, any big side is going to get a decision, and you can feel his frustration.

You're just going defensive and thinking i'm talking solely about United.

Fergie is right as well.

I never said Fergie's opinion was wrong, so you're talking shit now.

Martinez didn't go on a massive rant about the referee though. That's why Fergie has been charged. Otherwise, managers wouldn't be able to comment about a referee without getting a ban.


It's quite simple. Stop this 'It's only because you don't like us' shite you're peddling all over the place.

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:Martinez is right, whether it's against Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United, any big side is going to get a decision, and you can feel his frustration.

You're just going defensive and thinking i'm talking solely about United.

Fergie is right as well.

I never said Fergie's opinion was wrong, so you're talking shit now.

Yeah but Martinez is wrong to come out and call the ref's biased, whether he's right or not, just like Fergie.

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

I never said his opinion wasn't right.

Just he was wrong to come out and attack the referee directly.

Then Martinez is wrong to come out and say the ref is biased in our favor, oh no wait it's allowed because it's against us right?

Assuming silly things to make you sound right kyro?

Not how it's done.

You defended Martinez and went against Fergie, which is why you're a prick.

Both are wrong but nothing will happen to Martinez.

Martinez is right, whether it's against Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United, any big side is going to get a decision, and you can feel his frustration.

You're just going defensive and thinking i'm talking solely about United.

Again, being factually right is not the issue. Impugning the refs integrity is. You could say "that ref buggers sheep and makes his poor wife and kids watch." Even if that's true, you're gonna get fined (I would hope).

Dan wrote:Martinez didn't go on a massive rant about the referee though. That's why Fergie has been charged. Otherwise, managers wouldn't be able to comment about a referee without getting a ban.


It's quite simple. Stop this 'It's only because you don't like us' shite you're peddling all over the place.

Martinez still basically said the referee was bias. That's acceptable now?

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:Martinez is right, whether it's against Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United, any big side is going to get a decision, and you can feel his frustration.

You're just going defensive and thinking i'm talking solely about United.

Fergie is right as well.

I never said Fergie's opinion was wrong, so you're talking shit now.

Yeah but Martinez is wrong to come out and call the ref's biased, whether he's right or not, just like Fergie.

But did he attack this ref specifically? No, Did Fergie? Yes.

Santa Cruz wrote:My dad "Like his son Sir Alex is a grade a knob"

He's having a sulk now by refusing to speak to the media tomorrow

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:Martinez is right, whether it's against Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United, any big side is going to get a decision, and you can feel his frustration.

You're just going defensive and thinking i'm talking solely about United.

Fergie is right as well.

I never said Fergie's opinion was wrong, so you're talking shit now.

Yeah but Martinez is wrong to come out and call the ref's biased, whether he's right or not, just like Fergie.

But did he attack this ref specifically? No, Did Fergie? Yes.

But it's what he was getting at, any one can see that.. just because Fergie has the balls to say it like it is, Fergie.

That's me done on this, whether he gets a ban or not our players will know what's expected, he'll still pick the team, and it wont matter.

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:

kyro7 wrote:

luke. wrote:Martinez is right, whether it's against Chelsea, Arsenal, Man United, any big side is going to get a decision, and you can feel his frustration.

You're just going defensive and thinking i'm talking solely about United.

Fergie is right as well.

I never said Fergie's opinion was wrong, so you're talking shit now.

Yeah but Martinez is wrong to come out and call the ref's biased, whether he's right or not, just like Fergie.

But did he attack this ref specifically? No, Did Fergie? Yes.

Like I said, all you have to do is layer it with a degree of inference or implication, and you're good.