Sadly, these people are not gifted a forehead the size of Gervinho's and would of been unable to header the ball.Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Cheats would have done the same so Carroll, Gerrard, Maxi, Kuyt, Downing, Henderson would have for sure.. on this occasion cheats did not prosper.
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Well i think there would be quite a few that would have done the exact same thing as what Suarez did.Fonseca wrote:El_indian wrote:Why do people complain about the Suarez handball, any other player would have done exactly the same..
No they wouldn't have
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Alan wrote:Well i think there would be quite a few that would have done the exact same thing as what Suarez did.Fonseca wrote:El_indian wrote:Why do people complain about the Suarez handball, any other player would have done exactly the same..
No they wouldn't have
He said ANY other player would have done the same, not "some"
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:El_indian wrote:Why do people complain about the Suarez handball, any other player would have done exactly the same..
Have you ever heard of sportsmanship?
Yes, It was a natural reaction, considering the intense pressure, most players would have done the same - the dude in front of Suarez was also putting his arms up.
who the fucks thinking about sportsmanship in the last few minutes of a WC quarter final, get your head out of your ass; if you had the chance to hack down a player going through for a 1v1 in the last few secs of a major game, you (well definitely me) wouldn't think twice - DOO it.
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Fair enough, but he would probably admit that he meant most players.Fonseca wrote:Alan wrote:Well i think there would be quite a few that would have done the exact same thing as what Suarez did.Fonseca wrote:El_indian wrote:Why do people complain about the Suarez handball, any other player would have done exactly the same..
No they wouldn't have
He said ANY other player would have done the same, not "some"
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A natural reaction of a cheat for sure.El_indian wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:El_indian wrote:Why do people complain about the Suarez handball, any other player would have done exactly the same..
Have you ever heard of sportsmanship?
Yes, It was a natural reaction, considering the intense pressure, most players would have done the same - the dude in front of Suarez was also putting his arms up.
who the fucks thinking about sportsmanship in the last few minutes of a WC quarter final, get your head out of your ass; if you had the chance to hack down a player going through for a 1v1 in the last few secs of a major game, you (well definitely me) wouldn't think twice - do it.
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Fonseca wrote:Alan wrote:Well i think there would be quite a few that would have done the exact same thing as what Suarez did.Fonseca wrote:El_indian wrote:Why do people complain about the Suarez handball, any other player would have done exactly the same..
No they wouldn't have
He said ANY other player would have done the same, not "some"
I meant most. why do you have to nitpick? fucking asshole
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Filippo Inzaghi wrote:A natural reaction of a cheat for sure.
cheers for the input man
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:El_indian wrote:Why do people complain about the Suarez handball, any other player would have done exactly the same..
Have you ever heard of sportsmanship?
Well why have you a picture of Rooney in your avatar, and why would you back him up, i mean he has cheated before has he not.
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Filippo and the ignore function works wonders And well Filippo will tell you Henry was a great player, but look at what he did against Ireland.El_indian wrote:Filippo Inzaghi wrote:A natural reaction of a cheat for sure.
cheers for the input man
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El_indian wrote:Fonseca wrote:Alan wrote:Well i think there would be quite a few that would have done the exact same thing as what Suarez did.Fonseca wrote:El_indian wrote:Why do people complain about the Suarez handball, any other player would have done exactly the same..
No they wouldn't have
He said ANY other player would have done the same, not "some"
I meant most. why do you have to nitpick? fucking asshole
I nitpicked your fucking sentence, dear god
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Alan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:Alan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:El_indian wrote:
he got clipped and over-exaggerated the fall, he would have got there before the keeper if it wasn't for the tap.
He would have got there before the keeper anyway if he didn't 'over-exaggerate' the fall and actually tried to score rather than trying to gain a dishonest advantage. Suarez is a player who disgusts me, he really does. Nothing's sacred to that fucking cunt, Premier League, World Cup, he doesn't care, he just tries to lie and cheat his way to victory.
And you say Ronaldo is one of the greatest players ever, did he not like a dive and a few rolls around. I mean for someone who claims he is better than us all, make your fucking mind up.
Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but I'm talking about his ability and his effectiveness, not his character. Even he has never cheated a team, cheated a country, cheated a continent, out of a World Cup Semi Final.
But Suarez has ability and you have said you cant stand him, and you have said that Ronaldo is a fantastic player, even though he also cheats. But Suarez got sent off and and most players would have done the same thing in that situation, and thats the rules and we all no you like to point out the rules to us all. So whatever Suarez did the rules states he should have been sent off, and thats what happened.
I think ive got it Ronaldo played for Manchester United and Suarez plays for Liverpool, now maybe that has something to do with why you hate Suarez but you like Ronaldo. Go on tell the truth.
I don't like Ronaldo's character, but he is nowhere near as bad as Luis Suarez, who blatantly cheats and commits what we call in this country GBH against opposing players. He is a truly foul player, and I've thought that since well before he signed for Liverpool.
El_indian wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:El_indian wrote:Why do people complain about the Suarez handball, any other player would have done exactly the same..
Have you ever heard of sportsmanship?
Yes, It was a natural reaction, considering the intense pressure, most players would have done the same - the dude in front of Suarez was also putting his arms up.
who the fucks thinking about sportsmanship in the last few minutes of a WC quarter final, get your head out of your ass; if you had the chance to hack down a player going through for a 1v1 in the last few secs of a major game, you (well definitely me) wouldn't think twice - do it.
I agree that his natural reaction is to cheat. I would rather go out in the Quarter Final than cheat my way to the Semi Final, and I certainly wouldn't do what this utterly fucking contemptible bastard did if I did decide to cheat.
He should have been hanging his head in shame, any decent person would do. That photo made me want to vomit.
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When he asked him if he is staying, Aquilani replied: "I love the fans and I really want to stay, but it looks like I'll be going" ...
The guy in the middles words that. Posted on twitter.
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Fonseca wrote:I nitpicked your fucking sentence, dear god
huh?
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When he asked him if he is staying, Aquilani replied: "I love the fans and I really want to stay, but it looks like I'll be going" ...
The guy in the middles words that. Posted on twitter.
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:I agree that his natural reaction is to cheat. I would rather go out in the Quarter Final than cheat my way to the Semi Final, and I certainly wouldn't do what this utterly fucking contemptible bastard did if I did decide to cheat.
do you agree with me when I say many other players would have done the same?
also you can't be sure of what you would have done given it was you in that situation..
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El_indian wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:I agree that his natural reaction is to cheat. I would rather go out in the Quarter Final than cheat my way to the Semi Final, and I certainly wouldn't do what this utterly fucking contemptible bastard did if I did decide to cheat.
do you agree with me when I say many other players would have done the same?
also you can't be sure of what you would have done given it was you in that situation..
But you just said any (many) others would have done the same... Make your mind up
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:Alan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:Alan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:
He would have got there before the keeper anyway if he didn't 'over-exaggerate' the fall and actually tried to score rather than trying to gain a dishonest advantage. Suarez is a player who disgusts me, he really does. Nothing's sacred to that fucking cunt, Premier League, World Cup, he doesn't care, he just tries to lie and cheat his way to victory.
And you say Ronaldo is one of the greatest players ever, did he not like a dive and a few rolls around. I mean for someone who claims he is better than us all, make your fucking mind up.
Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but I'm talking about his ability and his effectiveness, not his character. Even he has never cheated a team, cheated a country, cheated a continent, out of a World Cup Semi Final.
But Suarez has ability and you have said you cant stand him, and you have said that Ronaldo is a fantastic player, even though he also cheats. But Suarez got sent off and and most players would have done the same thing in that situation, and thats the rules and we all no you like to point out the rules to us all. So whatever Suarez did the rules states he should have been sent off, and thats what happened.
I think ive got it Ronaldo played for Manchester United and Suarez plays for Liverpool, now maybe that has something to do with why you hate Suarez but you like Ronaldo. Go on tell the truth.
I don't like Ronaldo's character, but he is nowhere near as bad as Luis Suarez, who blatantly cheats and commits what we call in this country GBH against opposing players. He is a truly foul player, and I've thought that since well before he signed for Liverpool.
Ronaldo has also done some shocking things aswell, and you said you dont like cheats. And well if Suarez is a bastard whats Ronaldo.
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El_indian wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:I agree that his natural reaction is to cheat. I would rather go out in the Quarter Final than cheat my way to the Semi Final, and I certainly wouldn't do what this utterly fucking contemptible bastard did if I did decide to cheat.
do you agree with me when I say many other players would have done the same?
also you can't be sure of what you would have done given it was you in that situation..
I don't know, how could I possibly know that? I like to think that footballers are honourable and wouldn't blatantly cheat like that out of honour or shame.
And lets accept for a minute that we can't be sure what I do, I can sure as hell tell you I wouldn't go around celebrating, getting carried around like I was a hero like he did in that fucking photograph.
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Yeah fonseca how about you stay out of this because you're a fucking idiot and I have no idea of what you're trying to say.
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Like when you were talking about football then.El_indian wrote:Yeah fonseca how about you stay out of this because you're a fucking idiot and I have no idea of what you're trying to say.
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Alan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:Alan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:Alan wrote:
And you say Ronaldo is one of the greatest players ever, did he not like a dive and a few rolls around. I mean for someone who claims he is better than us all, make your fucking mind up.
Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but I'm talking about his ability and his effectiveness, not his character. Even he has never cheated a team, cheated a country, cheated a continent, out of a World Cup Semi Final.
But Suarez has ability and you have said you cant stand him, and you have said that Ronaldo is a fantastic player, even though he also cheats. But Suarez got sent off and and most players would have done the same thing in that situation, and thats the rules and we all no you like to point out the rules to us all. So whatever Suarez did the rules states he should have been sent off, and thats what happened.
I think ive got it Ronaldo played for Manchester United and Suarez plays for Liverpool, now maybe that has something to do with why you hate Suarez but you like Ronaldo. Go on tell the truth.
I don't like Ronaldo's character, but he is nowhere near as bad as Luis Suarez, who blatantly cheats and commits what we call in this country GBH against opposing players. He is a truly foul player, and I've thought that since well before he signed for Liverpool.
Ronaldo has also done some shocking things aswell, and you said you dont like cheats. And well if Suarez is a bastard whats Ronaldo.
Ronaldo is a cynical player who often exaggerates to gain an advantage, almost always when he was actually been fouled it should be pointed out, but he has never done anything as bad as what Suarez did in that World Cup Quarter Final, and his ability is so great that it outshines any bad elements to his game, Suarez is nowhere near that good.
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El_indian wrote:Yeah fonseca how about you stay out of this because you're a fucking idiot and I have no idea of what you're trying to say.
Are you fucking retarded?
You just said many would do the same then you just said "you cannot be sure of what you would do in that situation"
Then you said I nitpicked the word any when in reality your whole sentence didn't make sense
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:El_indian wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:I agree that his natural reaction is to cheat. I would rather go out in the Quarter Final than cheat my way to the Semi Final, and I certainly wouldn't do what this utterly fucking contemptible bastard did if I did decide to cheat.
do you agree with me when I say many other players would have done the same?
also you can't be sure of what you would have done given it was you in that situation..
I don't know, how could I possibly know that? I like to think that footballers are honourable and wouldn't blatantly cheat like that out of honour or shame.
And lets accept for a minute that we can't be sure what I do, I can sure as hell tell you I wouldn't go around celebrating, getting carried around like I was a hero like he did in that fucking photograph.
Of course you can't possibly know for a fact, but how about a reasonable guess?
Take Rooney for example, would he have done the same in that situation? My guess, derived from my perception of him is yes, he would have done that.
Also I don't entirely agree with the post match celebrations but that's not what I'm arguing, I'm talking more about the handball itself.
would you still consider him a cheat if he had hand-balled it and acted like a depressed cunt afterwards? Maybe it was more the celebrations which pissed you off?
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ResurrectionRooney wrote:Alan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:Alan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:
Ronaldo is a fantastic player, but I'm talking about his ability and his effectiveness, not his character. Even he has never cheated a team, cheated a country, cheated a continent, out of a World Cup Semi Final.
But Suarez has ability and you have said you cant stand him, and you have said that Ronaldo is a fantastic player, even though he also cheats. But Suarez got sent off and and most players would have done the same thing in that situation, and thats the rules and we all no you like to point out the rules to us all. So whatever Suarez did the rules states he should have been sent off, and thats what happened.
I think ive got it Ronaldo played for Manchester United and Suarez plays for Liverpool, now maybe that has something to do with why you hate Suarez but you like Ronaldo. Go on tell the truth.
I don't like Ronaldo's character, but he is nowhere near as bad as Luis Suarez, who blatantly cheats and commits what we call in this country GBH against opposing players. He is a truly foul player, and I've thought that since well before he signed for Liverpool.
Ronaldo has also done some shocking things aswell, and you said you dont like cheats. And well if Suarez is a bastard whats Ronaldo.
Ronaldo is a cynical player who often exaggerates to gain an advantage, almost always when he was actually been fouled it should be pointed out, but he has never done anything as bad as what Suarez did in that World Cup Quarter Final, and his ability is so great that it outshines any bad elements to his game, Suarez is nowhere near that good.
Almost always my ase, and if Ronaldo and his ability is that good why does he dive and play act. And of course Suarez is not as good as Ronaldo, and him celebrating after what happened in the World cup was not good looking at all, but dont tell me Ronaldo has not celebrated or other players have, when they have also cheated or play acted.
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Fonseca wrote:El_indian wrote:Yeah fonseca how about you stay out of this because you're a fucking idiot and I have no idea of what you're trying to say.
Are you fucking retarded?
You just said many would do the same then you just said "you cannot be sure of what you would do in that situation"
Then you said I nitpicked the word any when in reality your whole sentence didn't make sense
the "you cannot be sure of what you would do" was directed at RR who was convinced he wouldn't have done the same.
You nitpicked the word 'ANY' when surely you should have known what I meant; Alan guessed rightly - I meant most/many.
IMO is it reasonable to assume most players would have hand-balled if in that particular situation.
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El_indian wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:El_indian wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:I agree that his natural reaction is to cheat. I would rather go out in the Quarter Final than cheat my way to the Semi Final, and I certainly wouldn't do what this utterly fucking contemptible bastard did if I did decide to cheat.
do you agree with me when I say many other players would have done the same?
also you can't be sure of what you would have done given it was you in that situation..
I don't know, how could I possibly know that? I like to think that footballers are honourable and wouldn't blatantly cheat like that out of honour or shame.
And lets accept for a minute that we can't be sure what I do, I can sure as hell tell you I wouldn't go around celebrating, getting carried around like I was a hero like he did in that fucking photograph.
Of course you can't possibly know for a fact, but how about a reasonable guess?
Take Rooney for example, would he have done the same in that situation? My guess, derived from my perception of him is yes, he would have done that.
Also I don't entirely agree with the post match celebrations but that's not what I'm arguing, I'm talking more about the handball itself.
would you still consider him a cheat if he had hand-balled it and acted like a depressed cunt afterwards? Maybe it was more the celebrations which pissed you off?
It's not a reasonable one guess, it's a completely baseless one, you accusing Rooney of doing it is completely baseless. What we know is that Suarez cheated his way to knocking Ghana out of the World Cup, I'm talking about facts.
If he had shown remorse I'd have had more respect for him, but he's still a cheat.
Alan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:Alan wrote:ResurrectionRooney wrote:Alan wrote:
But Suarez has ability and you have said you cant stand him, and you have said that Ronaldo is a fantastic player, even though he also cheats. But Suarez got sent off and and most players would have done the same thing in that situation, and thats the rules and we all no you like to point out the rules to us all. So whatever Suarez did the rules states he should have been sent off, and thats what happened.
I think ive got it Ronaldo played for Manchester United and Suarez plays for Liverpool, now maybe that has something to do with why you hate Suarez but you like Ronaldo. Go on tell the truth.
I don't like Ronaldo's character, but he is nowhere near as bad as Luis Suarez, who blatantly cheats and commits what we call in this country GBH against opposing players. He is a truly foul player, and I've thought that since well before he signed for Liverpool.
Ronaldo has also done some shocking things aswell, and you said you dont like cheats. And well if Suarez is a bastard whats Ronaldo.
Ronaldo is a cynical player who often exaggerates to gain an advantage, almost always when he was actually been fouled it should be pointed out, but he has never done anything as bad as what Suarez did in that World Cup Quarter Final, and his ability is so great that it outshines any bad elements to his game, Suarez is nowhere near that good.
Almost always my ase, and if Ronaldo and his ability is that good why does he dive and play act. And of course Suarez is not as good as Ronaldo, and him celebrating after what happened in the World cup was not good looking at all, but dont tell me Ronaldo has not celebrated or other players have, when they have also cheated or play acted.
You find me a video where Ronaldo hasn't been fouled where he goes down, because I'm yet to see one. He exaggerates for the same reason any player dives, to get an extra advantage and makes defenders more careful about tackling him in the future. It makes just as much sense to do that if you have an extremely high level of ability as if you have a low one, in fact you're more likely to be fouled, it makes more sense. I have never seen anyone behave like Suarez did.
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well of course we can only assume another player in that situation..