Evidence that Gerrard's red card was one footed, not two.

Luxz0rz wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:Two footed or not, that was a dangerous tackle.

So? Football is a dangerous game. All contact sports are dangerous...even non contact sports can be dangerous.

The ball was there to be won....Gerrard HAD to go for it....and it was only one footed. A foul and a yellow but players when they stretch can't have their leg flat on the ground that's humanly impossible.......if you expect studs to be on the floor with every tackle then you're basically ruling all sliding tackles out of the game.

Some Liverpool fans might be biased towards this but I have no reason....I just generally think football is going in the wrong direction when it comes to red cards...fouls etc.

Bullshit

The ball was there to be won, but Gerrard did not have to go for it, he launched himself off the ground with two feet into Carrick, as seen by videos and pictures like kyro. I don't expect every tackle in the world to be with studs down, but if they aren't, well, that's what cards are for. There is a way to tackle properly and there is a way to tackle the wrong way, that's the wrong way.

It's a red card every day of the week.

Unless you're Rangers of course.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ke6wEwCVOLk#t=6m44s

Meanwhile, this is apparently a perfectly legitimate tackle

I don't see why you guys are saying its a reckless tackle, a reckless tackle would be a situation where theres no chance of getting the ball, but that was a 50/50 challenge, if he didn't go into that tackle 100% he wouldn't have won the ball and he may have got hurt, thats just how it works. There was no intent in it besides winning the ball.

Gerrard was looking to win the ball without thinking about anything else including endangering other players. If Carrick had been there a little faster he could have a broken leg imo.

I think Webb is a cunt though.

Could you imagine if Fabregas or Nasri did something like that though? They would probably be driven out of the country.

diving off of the ground and dangerous, not even how you slide tackle.

Funny how Rafael did the same thing right before this and Webb didn't even blink.

Rough tackle, but if Carrick did that on Stevie, it would have been a yellow at worst.

Not even the ManU fans can argue that. theyre facts.

What did Rafael do?

Any pics?

Mustangt125 wrote:Funny how Rafael did the same thing right before this and Webb didn't even blink.

Rough tackle, but if Carrick did that on Stevie, it would have been a yellow at worst.

Not even the ManU fans can argue that. theyre facts.

You obviously don't know what the definition of a fact is then

I clearly do. Quit clowning bitter face

Saying that Carrick would've got a yellow instead of a red if he committed the same tackle on Gerrard is not a fact, lol

Trust me Hitchy, it is....

Kenny Dalglish knew it was a red.

kyro7 wrote:Kenny Dalglish knew it was a red.

HE IS THE KING

Since when did retards use the Internet?

Pixie.....

I love how Gerrard's tackle is a red card, but this...

isn't.
Hilarious.

Another one of Howard Webb's decisions.

Rafael did the same thing

Fucking hell, he did a mini jump towards the ball, and Meireles crapped himself. He didn't dive in with a 2 footed tackle and miss the ball

Danny wrote:Rafael did the same thing

Fucking hell, he did a mini jump towards the ball, and Meireles crapped himself. He didn't dive in with a 2 footed tackle and miss the ball

But it means fuck all, GAME OVER THE GAME IS OVER THIS THREAD MEANS FUCK ALL AND YOU CANNOT CHANGE ITT PEOPLE SO SHUT THE FUCK UP

Unless you want to try and prove Webb wrong... continue

What about the penalty(s) we should have had . The Giggs one was blatant & the Evra one should have been a penalty when he was pushed over if Torres got a free kick when he had a shot and fell over.

Cant believe people are saying this isnt a red. He didnt get the ball when you look at it. Carrick pushes the ball away and Gerrard lunges into a tackle. If he had slid along the ground then it isnt a red but he launched through the air and went straight through the players legs. Its a clear red

Lucky Carrick doesnt have a broken leg

Well Football has changed so much from the times i watched it years ago, and years ago that would have not even been a yella card, but yes it was wreckless and nowadays you dont get away with tackles like that.

North_Sea_Tiger wrote:Cant believe people are saying this isnt a red. He didnt get the ball when you look at it. Carrick pushes the ball away and Gerrard lunges into a tackle. If he had slid along the ground then it isnt a red but he launched through the air and went straight through the players legs. Its a clear red

Lucky Carrick doesnt have a broken leg

Ive seen worse than that tackle and even from Gerrard who earlier in his career went in with a few over the top tackle's.

Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:

North_Sea_Tiger wrote:Cant believe people are saying this isnt a red. He didnt get the ball when you look at it. Carrick pushes the ball away and Gerrard lunges into a tackle. If he had slid along the ground then it isnt a red but he launched through the air and went straight through the players legs. Its a clear red

Lucky Carrick doesnt have a broken leg

Ive seen worse than that tackle and even from Gerrard who earlier in his career went in with a few over the top tackle's.

Yeah ive seen worse as well. Still doesnt stop that being a red. Anythime a player lunges off the air then its deemed a dangerous tackle and usually ends in a card now. Gerrard lunged, got none of the ball & went straight through Carricks legs which could have resulted in a serious injury. Clear red

Liverpool fc 4 ever wrote:Well Football has changed so much from the times i watched it years ago, and years ago that would have not even been a yella card, but yes it was wreckless and nowadays you dont get away with tackles like that.

They don't get away with tackles like that. But they do get away with tackles like this somehow...

Danny wrote:Rafael did the same thing

Fucking hell, he did a mini jump towards the ball, and Meireles crapped himself. He didn't dive in with a 2 footed tackle and miss the ball

Doesn't matter, if I remember correctly, two feet off the ground attacking the ball is dangerous play, same as what your argueing for Gerrard. If Meireles had won the ball and Rafael landed studs into his ankles would have been a red, only thing is he got the ball so in Webb's mind he decided to disregard it. Gerrard didn't win the ball so Webb called it a foul and Carrick was screaming so he gave Gerrard a red.

Anderson=Class wrote:What about the penalty(s) we should have had .
The Giggs one was blatant & the Evra one should have been a penalty
when he was pushed over if Torres got a free kick when he had a shot and
fell over.

In the Giggs situation the ball was won before taking Giggs out, fair challenge, wasn't dangerous so no reason to call a penalty for it, I can't really remember Evra's but I think it was soft from what I remember, just a shove, not worth a penalty, hes not a weak guy, he went down to easy, what about Berbatov diving for your penalty?

Torres didn't fall over when he was taking a shot, won the ball off Anderson, about to shoot Anderson tracks back and trips him up from behind, even if it was just clipping his heels still a foul.

chiboygeorge wrote:

ScottyBoy_21 wrote:Don't get why Man United try to cheat all the time. Berbatov dived in the box, Carrick and Co tricked the Ref into thinking Gerrard had studded him in the legs with two feet. Evans pushes Reina into the ground during his 5 save combo.

In fact, can you remember any events during that game in which it was Liverpool who were being unsportsman-like or cheating? Bet you can't.

Says it all really.

That's so hypocritical.

Didn't Gerrard dive to win that PK in 2005?

What game was that the European cup Final cause that was a Penalty.

Kaka11|LFC wrote:

Danny wrote:Rafael did the same thing

Fucking hell, he did a mini jump towards the ball, and Meireles crapped himself. He didn't dive in with a 2 footed tackle and miss the ball

Doesn't matter, if I remember correctly, two feet off the ground attacking the ball is dangerous play, same as what your argueing for Gerrard. If Meireles had won the ball and Rafael landed studs into his ankles would have been a red, only thing is he got the ball so in Webb's mind he decided to disregard it. Gerrard didn't win the ball so Webb called it a foul and Carrick was screaming so he gave Gerrard a red.

Anderson=Class wrote:What about the penalty(s) we should have had .
The Giggs one was blatant & the Evra one should have been a penalty
when he was pushed over if Torres got a free kick when he had a shot and
fell over.

In the Giggs situation the ball was won before taking Giggs out, fair challenge, wasn't dangerous so no reason to call a penalty for it, I can't really remember Evra's but I think it was soft from what I remember, just a shove, not worth a penalty, hes not a weak guy, he went down to easy, what about Berbatov diving for your penalty?

Torres didn't fall over when he was taking a shot, won the ball off Anderson, about to shoot Anderson tracks back and trips him up from behind, even if it was just clipping his heels still a foul.

The reason Rafael didnt get a card was ecause he got the ball. Yesh it was a bit dangerous but it wasnt a foul. Gerrard launched himself off the ground, didnt get the ball and went straight through Carricks leg. How can you even argue that it wasnt a red. Is it only a red if Gerrard does break his leg. Come on. It was a terribble lunge and was due a red card