ResurrectionRooney wrote:Keyser Söze wrote:
What does Moyes saying nothing prove?
Sponsors would get guarantees like that. It's exactly the reason why you see so many top clubs signing needless big name players ala Madrid, Barca, Bayern, etc.... No way in hell would United have sealed the deals they did if the sponsor didn't have had some clauses/guarantees about big name signings, especially after the season you had. Also, like I said most transfers are in the pipeline for awhile, Falcao said he had been in talks with you for months so just because the sponsorship deals came after his official confirmation it doesn't matter because they would have been aware of the calibre of player United were prepared to sign.
Just because you're not selling your house at that exact point in time it doesn't mean you won't in the future. It shows a trend from which you can gauge the market, if share prices had continued to plummet it doesn't bode well for a number of reasons, not least in terms of future sales of any % of the club.
Also, you personally might not give a fuck, but who wants to leave in a house that's value is decreasing? Obviously it's not the end of the world but ideally you don't want that and if you can do something to stop it most would.
If it wasn't true he'd have denied it to avoid the embarrassment of having missed out on yet another transfer target after the very public failures to land Thiago, Fabregas, Baines and Cristiano Ronaldo.
If you believe Falcao when he said that then you're pretty naive. He wanted Madrid, he came to us when he realised that wasn't happening. Sponsors can't dictate transfers to clubs, if you think a man like Louis Van Gaal would accept that you are on drugs.
The share price is irrelevant to the Glazers, they have no control, and any full sale is a long way off. If it wasn't they would have binned Moyes when he wiped £220m off the value of the club - they didn't, they kept him, for footballing reasons.
No, it's actually in Moyes's best interest to let the story run. It's not embarrassing in the slightest that he "supposedly" went after these top players and failed. He'll say "well these are the players I wanted, I can identify top players, I had ambition, and if the club had matched that and got the deals done then we'd have been successful". It's a ready made excuse, and in fact it's one he's used subsequently.
You don't just wrap up a transfer like that in a few hours. It'll will almost certainly have been in the works for some time, whether it was "months" like Falcao and van Gaal have alluded to is unclear. Sponsors don't dictate specific players for the club to sign, but any sponsors making a deal like the ones United have agreed, and after the season United have had, will require reassurances/clauses/guarantees/whatever you want to call it about the calibre of players that will be signed. They aren't going to agree highly lucrative deals if they're going to have shit no name player or rapists playing for the clubs, it very obviously just doesn't make commercial sense. And who the fuck is van Gaal? The same man that complained about playing pointless friendlies half way around the world yet then in the very same sentence bowed down to them because he understood they were commercially lucrative for the club. He came in and they basically forced Herrara and Shaw on him, says he "rubber stamped" the deals only to say a few weeks later that Shaw wasn't fit enough? It's beyond doubt that both those deals will have been forced on him. But not that that's really relevant since I've already clarified that sponsors wouldn't dictate specific players, more like demand the club signs some type of big name player, and which manager in world football wouldn't agree to that?
The share price is hugely relevant to any owner of a commodity. Whether they sell in 50 years time or 5 weeks time, no business man on Earth worth his salt is going to continue to let the share price of his stock continually drop whilst he can do something about it. Of course they aren't going to bin him at the 1st sign of trouble, but when it becomes obvious that it's only going to continue to fall then they clearly won't take the risk of another £220mill being wiped off and act.
Signing of the season.
