Official Rangers FC Thread

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Numerous Rangers stores to be opened in Northern Ireland.

Yes!

http://news.stv.tv/north/186720-future-of-aberdeen-football-club-could-be-in-doubt-as-councillors-vote/

The plans were rejected.

Goodbye Aberdeen, who's next?

Another piece of great news, Scotland is set to tumble down the UEFA co-efficients as the last of Rangers UEFA CUP FINAL in 2008 points run out. They only last 5 years.

One word ... stunning!

No Surrender Ian Black!

The Rangers FC have found a new hero. The cokehead thug suits your club to a tee Jela.

Rangers Football Club have today accepted a bid from English side Stoke City for the transfer of American International Maurice Edu.



Thanks for the memories Mo!

Rangers Football Club's largest Shareholder announced as Arif Naqvi. He is one of the most influential businessman in the middle east and his main company has assets of $7billion.

*inb4 celtic fans start making up bullshit stories about him, to make him look bad*

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Another piece of great news, Scotland is set to tumble down the UEFA co-efficients as the last of Rangers UEFA CUP FINAL in 2008 points run out. They only last 5 years.

Why is that good? Surely nobody's that bitter...

And our Champions League campaign should give us a couple of extra points, which is fantastic considering we never expected to be there this season.

Yeah, I don't really understand that. Rangers are still in the Scottish football league system, and for all their hatred of the SPL, they'll be wanting to get back into it. When they do,the low position of Scottish football in the co-efs will affect them if they plan on getting back into Europe.

ayvee1 wrote:Yeah, I don't really understand that. Rangers are still in the Scottish football league system, and for all their hatred of the SPL, they'll be wanting to get back into it. When they do,the low position of Scottish football in the co-efs will affect them if they plan on getting back into Europe.

We want back into the SPHeLl? Don't think so, the fans and Charles Green have been having meetings so that we don't move back into the top flight until it is decimated in terms of teams going bust etc. Aberdeen are already fucked and many other teams have major problems. You knock us down, we'll stand back up and knock you out ... for good. WATP, No Surrender!

No one likes us, we don't care.

Knocked themselves down by cheating for years. Maybe Rangers should have started again in the English league if they harbour so much hatred towards Scottish football.

Hatred? You brought it on yourself.

How could we start again? We were demoted three divisions as our holding company went into administration (soon to be liquidated). stewart rHegan has already said we could be fast-tracked into division 1 next season because of revenue loss to the spl. The spl currently owe all of their teams another 75% of their tv money (the first instalment). They have only given you 25% of your first instalment as they can't afford to pay it all. Not to worry though, they'll just take more of out money by fining Charles Green & Ally McCoist.

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Hatred? You brought it on yourself.

How could we start again? We were 1) demoted three divisions as 2) our holding company went into administration (soon to be liquidated). stewart rHegan has already said we could be fast-tracked into division 1 next season because of revenue loss to the spl. The spl currently owe all of their teams another 75% of their tv money (the first instalment). They have only given you 25% of your first instalment as they can't afford to pay it all. Not to worry though, they'll just take more of out money by fining Charles Green & Ally McCoist.

Either you are genuinely unaware that you're wrong, or you're doing it on purpose to provoke a reaction. Which is it?

1) You were not demoted, or relegated, or anything which makes it sound as if you are the same Club. You were liquidated, and as a new club you had to apply to join a league. When your application to join the SPL was rejected, you successfully applied to join the 4th tier of Scottish football. You were not demoted or relegated from the SPL.

2) The Club went into administration, and subsequently is due to be liquidated. Not the holding company.

“The debts were outstanding from the time the Club went into administration.”

Charles Green

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:1) And the club is now out of administration as Charles Green's consortium took over
2)buying the assets and club from the holding company (which is in administration). It is Newco Rangers (New Company Rangers) i.e. the Holding company that owns Rangers has changed.

3) Not NewClub Rangers.

4) The club was in administration along with the separate entity (the holding company). The club was saved from liquidation as Charles Green purchased the club and its assets, transferring them to the new holding company. The old holding company still remains in administration and will be liquidated. The old holding company now, holds nothing. As it (assets/club) was bought/transferred to the new holding company.

5) A club is not a company.

This is complete nonsense.

1)Charles Greens consortium, Sevco Scotland, bought the assets of the Club, STILL in administration. See Companies House website



2) Charles Green did buy the assets from the Club, but he did not buy the Club. His consortium, Sevco Scotland, purchased the assets of the Club for £5.5m.

Club and Company are the same.

3) It is referred to as Newco Rangers as Club and Company are the same. Rangers Football Club Plc (I've highlighted the 'C' so maybe you can guess what that letter stands for after claiming the Club isn't a company. The Club IS a company!
Contrary to what you said, a Club cannot operate if it isn't a Company. Remember I told you how the Club incorporated as a Company. They are one and the same. (See the picture below for confirmation of this)

4) I don't even know where to start with that.

The Club was in administration, not the holding company. If you don't believe me, go and find me the registration numbers for both Club and holding company.

5) Again, yes it is. The Club was incorporated as a company.

Why have you deleted your post Jela?

I've no idea, I tried to edit it (add a capital letter) and somehow deleted it.

And the club is now out of administration as Charles Green's consortium took over
buying the assets and club from the holding company (which is in administration). It is Newco Rangers (New Company Rangers) i.e. the Holding company that owns Rangers has changed.

Not NewClub Rangers.

The club was in administration along with the separate entity (the holding company). The club was saved from liquidation as Charles Green purchased the club and its assets, transferring them to the new holding company. The old holding company still remains in administration and will be liquidated. The old holding company now, holds nothing. As it (assets/club) was bought/transferred to the new holding company.

A club is not a company.

Copied it from your post and took out the numbers.

Yep, didn't need you to post it again as it's already there in my rebuttal. Just to reiterate this, you need to understand a Club IS a company.

If you do want to reply, then show me if the Club was indeed seperate from the company, where is the documentary evidence for this? For we can rest assured, if this existed, it would have been published everywhere.

And I don't want to see anything about a HOLDING COMPANY. The holding company had nothing to do with it.

Rangers holding company was The Rangers FC Group Ltd, formerly known as Wavetower. Despite your claims of it being in administration, it is not.

As you can see here, contrary to your claims. It is NOT in administration.

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:our holding company went into administration

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:The old holding company still remains in administration and will be liquidated.

A quick look at Companies House dispells this



The following STV story, both confirms that The Rangers FC Group Ltd, formerly known as Wavetower, was infact the holding company of Rangers, and is not in administration. It does however face being striken off

STV Story

I can't believe that this hasn't been discussed yet.

TheRangersFan wrote:I can't believe that this hasn't been discussed yet.

I can't believe I'm still having to educate you lot.

I guess I'll have to wait until BDO get their pens out and it becomes official.

The Maestro wrote:

TheRangersFan wrote:I can't believe that this hasn't been discussed yet.

I can't believe I'm still having to educate you lot.

I guess I'll have to wait until BDO get their pens out and it becomes official.

Malcolm Cohen and James Stephen from financial company BDO have been appointed as Joint Liquidators.

"It's important to understand that the appointment of liquidators will not mean the end of football at Ibrox - only the end of the company that ran the club," said Cohen.

Again, proving my point ... a club is not a company and they're 2 separate entities.

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:

The Maestro wrote:

I can't believe I'm still having to educate you lot.

I guess I'll have to wait until BDO get their pens out and it becomes official.

Malcolm Cohen and James Stephen from financial company BDO have been appointed as Joint Liquidators.

"It's important to understand that the appointment of liquidators will not mean the end of football at Ibrox - only the end of the company that ran the club," said Cohen.

Again, proving my point ... a club is not a company and they're 2 separate entities.

I've already addressed that Jela.

It's worded perfectly for you. It is the end of the company that ran the Club. But the company that ran the Club, is the Club.

If Club and Company are seperate entities, then surely you can provide some documentary evidence to support this, other than a quote from BDO?

Please please please show that Club and company are a different entity. Really, please?

http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk

The Maestro wrote:

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:



Again, proving my point ... a club is not a company and they're 2 separate entities.

I've already addressed that Jela.

It's a clever use of words as well. It is the end of the Company that ran the Club. The Company that ran the Club, is the Club.

If Club and Company are seperate entities, then surely you can provide some documentary evidence to support this, other than a quote from BDO?

Please please please show that Club and company are a different entity. Really, please?

From an official legal document:

http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/opinions/2012CSOH%2095.html

This is a petition for judicial review by the Rangers Football Club plc, a company presently in administration. That company presently operates Rangers Football Club

Spot on.

The company does operate Rangers Football Club

Rangers Football Club Plc was the Company AND the Club, as I've previously shown.

I want to see which company you are referring to, show me it on companies house. If Club and company are seperate entities they will have seperate registration numbers.

Why would it have a registration number?

TheRangersFan wrote:Why would it have a registration number?

Every Club does. I've already explained. Rangers, the Club were incorporated into a company in 1899

Spoiler:

that’s why the documents from D&P which I've shown previously were all headed



Celtic is on Companies House. This is the Club.

Registration number is SC003487



and I'm asking you if Club and Company are seperate entities, show me them on Companies House.

I think we will have to agree to disagree dawg.

TheRangersFan wrote:I think we will have to agree to disagree dawg.

That's a shame, I was hoping you'd come up with something.

When you get to my age you start to mellow.

Jelavić7|EFC wrote:

ayvee1 wrote:Yeah, I don't really understand that. Rangers are still in the Scottish football league system, and for all their hatred of the SPL, they'll be wanting to get back into it. When they do,the low position of Scottish football in the co-efs will affect them if they plan on getting back into Europe.

We want back into the SPHeLl? Don't think so, the fans and Charles Green have been having meetings so that we don't move back into the top flight until it is decimated in terms of teams going bust etc. Aberdeen are already fucked and many other teams have major problems. You knock us down, we'll stand back up and knock you out ... for good. WATP, No Surrender!

No one likes us, we don't care.

Copying words from a Millwall anthem, tragic.

You and many Rangers fans clearly do care as well.

TheRangersFan wrote:When you get to my age you start to mellow.

I'll be 20 this year. Pefectly mellow although I don't like liars.