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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:42 am

    TheRangersFan wrote:I wonder if they'll move the final to a bigger ground if we get to it. scratch

    It will me moved to Hampden. 50,000 bears having a party! Official Rangers FC Thread - Page 12 Uk Official Rangers FC Thread - Page 12 21


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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:43 am

    Sevco franchise in the unwanted gold bracelet cup
    Celtic in the UEFA Champions League

    This armageddon doesn't taste quite right Surprised
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    Post by TheRangersFan Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:45 am

    The away kit is quite nice too. Smile
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:46 am

    TheRangersFan wrote:The away kit is quite nice too. Smile

    Yeah, very similar to the kit worn by Dinamo Moscow in our European triumph in 1972. Smile
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    Post by MickStupp Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:24 am

    The kit is quite smart, I like how simple the kits are this year.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:36 am

    Why do UEFA have Rangers (1872) last game as being against St. Johnstone on May 13th 2012?

    http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/teams/club=50121/profile/index.html
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    Post by TheRangersFan Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:51 am

    They don't update lower Scottish leagues. Smile
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:54 am

    They've got your result against Arbroath last season.
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    Post by TheRangersFan Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:56 am

    That was in the Scottish Cup mate. They cover that. They don't have last season's league cup games for egg sample. Smile

    If you want to check our fixtures the best place is probably the SFL website.

    http://www.scottishfootballleague.com/club/rangers/

    There are links at the side for fixtures, results and tables. Smile
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 23, 2012 9:59 am

    Big Brother is confusing you
    Aug 22nd, 2012 @ 10:48 pm › Phil Mac Giolla Bhain
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    I have several friends who at different times in their lives have lived under totalitarian regimes.

    They have each told me separately that there is a form of collective madness that grips people because the state controlled media broadcasts utter drivel and people slowly start to believe it.

    The objective of this propaganda is almost always to control the narrative, of how people perceive things that have happened.

    I would imagine that the poor souls in Pyongyang would feel rather at home listening to the Big Brother output of the Scottish media in the last two months regarding the death of Rangers.

    I had something of a North Korean moment this evening when I was listening to Clyde 1 Super Scoreboard.

    The caller wanted hear that the history and honours of Rangers had not been lost when the original company had been liquidated.

    He was not disappointed and Darrell King reassured this chap that the illustrious saga that is the mighty Rangers had not been broken.

    Oh dear…

    The folks that run Planet Fitba might be confused about this stuff, but UEFA is not.

    The Jesuitical pirouettes of the hacks seem to be based on the fairy story that the club wasn’t liquidated, but only the company was.

    So that’s all right then.

    What does UEFA think of that?

    http://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/Tech/uefaorg/General/01/80/54/10/1805410_DOWNLOAD.pdf

    I found that “Chapter 2: Licence Applicant and Licence” to be a rip roaring read.

    Article 12 “Definition of a licence applicant” is probably germane to what the chap calling into Clyde about.

    Specifically 12.1 is well worth a read.

    “A licence applicant may only be a football club, i.e. a legal entity responsible for a football team participating in national and international competitions which either:

    a)      Is a registered member of a UEFA  member association and/or its affiliated league (hereinafter : registered member); or

    b)      Has a contractual relationship with a registered member (hereinafter: football company).”

    I called a leading international football lawyer. The Court of Arbitration in Sport is his chap’s natural habitat.

    His highly expensive skills are regularly sought by top English Premiership clubs.

    If anyone would know this stuff then he would.

    I didn’t want the totalitarian double speak of Planet Fitba, I wanted the truth from someone qualified in this specialised field of law.

    I relayed the import of the answer on Clyde given to the caller and my confusion after reading the regulations above.

    After he had stopped chortling the phone in answer he explained the reality of the Sevco situation to me.

    His response was free of legalese and subsequently worth relaying because of its clarity:

    “It’s an interesting idea. The logical extension is that history is a commodity that can be bought and sold. I’ll be sure to mention that to the powers that be at Manchester city who may well be interested in purchasing Nottingham Forest’s two European cups and maybe a league title or two from Arsenal perhaps?”

    He reminded me that UEFA operate under FIFA regulations and the world governing body is quite clear on this.

    FIFA consider liquidation to be the death of a football club.

    I checked on the UEFA website and they have Rangers last game as being against St. Johnstone on May 13th 2012

    http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/teams/club=50121/profile/index.html

    Just to make sure I checked on another club that plays in Scotland.

    http://www.uefa.com/teamsandplayers/teams/club=50050/profile/index.html

    That one appears to be much more up to date, or perhaps UEFA just considers the history of Rangers FC to have been concluded in June 2012 and that the 4-0 victor in Pert on the last day of the SPL season was their last ever match.

    On Planet Football there is no distinction between the legal entity and the football club, they are indivisible.

    If the entity is liquidated then so is the club.

    They are one in the same.

    However, in the Orwellian world of Planet fitba phone ins black can by white if that is what is needed to sooth a fretting bear.

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    Post by TheRangersFan Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:00 am

    Interesting reading mate. Smile
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    Post by Sean Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:00 am

    I love how TRF is being so helpful when he knows the actual insinuation Laughing
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 23, 2012 6:46 pm

    Why do you even post articles like that? It's quite evident who they're coming from. Websites that your fans forums use as your bible. Will I start posting articles from Rangers blogs etc? The biased bile is clear for everyone to see, stop kidding yourself. Everybody knows the truth.

    Your fans are so obsessive, you should start taking note of your own team.

    PS. In that link to UEFA that you posted ... we're still 13 co-efficient places above you. Laughing Laughing
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:11 pm

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Why do you even post articles like that? It's quite evident who they're coming from. Websites that your fans forums use as your bible. Will I start posting articles from Rangers blogs etc? The biased bile is clear for everyone to see, stop kidding yourself. Everybody knows the truth.

    Your fans are so obsessive, you should start taking note of your own team.

    PS. In that link to UEFA that you posted ... we're still 13 co-efficient places above you. Laughing Laughing

    But you've never played in Europe. scratch
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    Post by Mal Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:15 pm

    If they're a different club then why do you Celtic fans post in here for a reaction?! They have nothing to do with Celtic if you see it that way.. You're contradicting yourselves, unless you constantly go on East Stirling forums and remind them about their club..
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:58 pm

    Mal wrote:If they're a different club then why do you Celtic fans post in here for a reaction?! They have nothing to do with Celtic if you see it that way.. You're contradicting yourselves, unless you constantly go on East Stirling forums and remind them about their club..

    I was just coming back at Jela's boast that his team has a higher coefficient than Celtic.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:25 pm

    Mal, new club, same lying deluded bigoted fans

    That's why I don't like them and that's why I like reminding them their old club is dead.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:30 pm

    I only remind them they're dead because they pretend to everyone they're the same club and haven't been liquidated. They're desperate for it to appear as if nothing has happened and it's ridiculous that we have to prove to them that they've been liquidated

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    Post by TheRangersFan Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:48 pm

    The Maestro wrote:I only remind them they're dead because they pretend to everyone they're the same club and haven't been liquidated. They're desperate for it to appear as if nothing has happened and it's ridiculous that we have to prove to them that they've been liquidated

    Laughing

    Good point man, well made.
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    Post by TheRangersFan Thu Aug 23, 2012 10:49 pm


    Sky Sports understands Rangers are eyeing a move for Birmingham midfielder Morgaro Gomis.

    Rangers are believed to be in the market for a new midfielder and Gomis is thought to be on Ally McCoist's wanted list.

    Gomis is currently on the first-team fringes at St Andrew's with his only appearance coming as a late substitute in the Capital One Cup win over Barnet.

    The 27-year-old made his name in Scotland after a successful spell with Dundee United between 2007-11, helping them win the Scottish Cup in 2010 before joining Blues on a free transfer last summer.

    McCoist is thought to be a fan of Gomis and sees him as a key addition to his side as he looks to rebuild his squad after a number of departures this summer.

    Blues boss Lee Clark could be willing to let Gomis leave for the right fee as it would free up funds for him to strengthen the squad elsewhere.
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:01 am

    TheRangersFan wrote:
    The Maestro wrote:I only remind them they're dead because they pretend to everyone they're the same club and haven't been liquidated. They're desperate for it to appear as if nothing has happened and it's ridiculous that we have to prove to them that they've been liquidated

    Laughing

    Good point man, well made.

    Was funny last night, overkill
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:13 am

    TheRangersFan wrote:
    Sky Sports understands Rangers are eyeing a move for Birmingham midfielder Morgaro Gomis.

    Rangers are believed to be in the market for a new midfielder and Gomis is thought to be on Ally McCoist's wanted list.

    Gomis is currently on the first-team fringes at St Andrew's with his only appearance coming as a late substitute in the Capital One Cup win over Barnet.

    The 27-year-old made his name in Scotland after a successful spell with Dundee United between 2007-11, helping them win the Scottish Cup in 2010 before joining Blues on a free transfer last summer.

    McCoist is thought to be a fan of Gomis and sees him as a key addition to his side as he looks to rebuild his squad after a number of departures this summer.

    Blues boss Lee Clark could be willing to let Gomis leave for the right fee as it would free up funds for him to strengthen the squad elsewhere.

    Drool Drool

    Won't happen, we don't need him.

    + It's probably just them doing their usual ... making stuff up, lazy journalism.
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    Official Rangers FC Thread - Page 12 A0AHWusCAAAQyRC

    New 3rd kit wank 2
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 24, 2012 1:49 am

    Jelavić7|EFC wrote:Official Rangers FC Thread - Page 12 A0AHWusCAAAQyRC

    New 3rd kit wank 2

    groundbreaking
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:58 am

    Rangers could be fast-tracked into second tier via league reconstruction!

    SFA chief Stewart Regan has revealed that league reconstruction is still being planned for next season — in a move which could see Rangers fast-tracked to the second tier of Scottish football a year ahead of schedule.
    Regan will kick-start plans to revitalise the professional game on Thursday when a working group, featuring representatives from the SPL and SFL and headed by an independent chairman, are tasked with devising a new structure.
    The exact model is yet to be determined but the starting point for discussions will be proposals for a 16-team Premier League, with two divisions below, which would give the Ibrox club a quicker route back to the top flight should they navigate their way out of the Third Division as expected.

    This plan, which included play-offs and a fairer distribution of income among the leagues, was overwhelmingly rejected 25-5 by SFL clubs last month as part of Regan’s botched bid to parachute newco Rangers into the First Division.
    The SFA confirmed at the time they would push on with a reform agenda, amid widespread scepticism that it would ever see the light of day. But Regan insisted on Wednesday that a new league system will ‘ideally’ be in place by the start of season 2013/14.
    He said: ‘We have a meeting on Thursday and the plan is to put a working party in place to come up with reconstruction proposals that can be implemented ideally from next season.
    ‘The joint proposal put forward (in July) was not something the SFL wanted to take forward but reconstruction remains part of the agenda for Scottish football.
    ‘The (SFL rejection) was accepted because it’s a democratic process and now we move forward.
    ‘The SPL and the SFL will take new proposals back to their respective members and it will require a 75 per cent vote from the SFL and an 11-1 vote by the SPL to vote change through.’
    Meanwhile, Regan would not be drawn on whether Rangers owner Charles Green will face fresh disciplinary action following his latest outburst towards the SFA, in which he accused them of persecuting the club.

    But he called on the outspoken Yorkshireman to draw a line under his ongoing war of words with the governing body and suggested they were purely designed to sell season tickets.
    Green is up before the SFA next week after suggesting bigotry was at the heart of his club’s banishment from the SPL, while manager Ally McCoist also faces a charge relating to comments about the organisation’s judicial panel in April. ‘Charles Green has his own reasons why he’s making the comments he is,’ said Regan. ‘But it’s clear Rangers have galvanised their fans behind the club and sold a huge amount of season tickets.
    ‘They’ve used the situation to get the fans behind them but it’s important for Scottish football that we move on now and restore focus on the football itself and look forward to league reconstruction and helping produce good young talent.’
    Regan also admitted the Scottish game was in a ‘better place’ than he feared when he famously claimed that Rangers’ demotion to the Third Division would lead to the ‘slow, lingering death of Scottish football’.
    But he did not regret the rhetoric which prompted calls for his head.
    ‘I think we have to move forward,’ said Regan. ‘We are in a better place than could have been imagined in terms of the negotiations between the SPL and its commercial partners.

    'I’m not sure the contracts have been signed yet but the feedback about those renegotiations have been positive. We will have to wait and see but everyone is doing their best to move on and try to build a stronger game.
    ‘Do I regret some of the language? I think at the time, the information put forward by everyone was based on knowledge we had of the get-out clauses that existed in contracts for commercial partners.
    ‘What was done at the time was to draw attention to potential consequences for the game and that has now been progressed to a stage where those contracts are in a slightly better place.
    ‘But we don’t know what the consequences will be until they play out in the coming months.
    ‘The greatest opportunity for the game right now, in terms of revenue, are discussions with UEFA to secure income for international matches between 2014 and 2018.
    ‘All 53 nations have given UEFA a mandate to negotiate centrally for the sale of television rights across Europe.
    ‘If that can be delivered successfully, that will give us a substantial boost of tens of millions of pounds over a four-year period and we’re confident that will happen.
    ‘That money would help underpin the infrastructure of the game and the development of young players.’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2192271/Rangers-fas-tracked-second-tier.html

    Shiteing themselves already! rofl

    No thanks, being promoted to the second division and watching The SPL go bust sounds more fun. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

    Hardly unexpected though tbh, they can't live without us/the revenue we bring. Laughing Laughing

    THE BEARS ARE HAVING A PARTYYYYYYYY ... THE SPL'S GOING BUST HAHA! yippee cheers yippee cheers yippee cheers
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    Post by TheRangersFan Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:20 am

    I think I would feel physically sick if we were shoehorned into the spl again.
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Fri Aug 24, 2012 6:32 am

    Corrupt bastards.
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 24, 2012 9:51 am

    Numerous Rangers stores to be opened in Northern Ireland. Smile
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    Post by Guest Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:03 am

    Scott Burns (Express) claiming that we're after Morgaro Gomis, Daniel Larsson (apparently he wants the move) & Anestis Argyriou.

    We're trying to get rid of Broadfoot & Bocanegra, finally going to let some of the youth defenders have a chance. Smile
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    Post by TheRangersFan Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:07 am

    Making a 200k bid for Daniel Larsson. Smile

    Greek defender set to sign too. Smile

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