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    Post by Harrold Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:23 am

    Don't forget Mr.Agogo who had a spell at Hibs.

    Or Ivan Sproule.
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    Post by TheRangersFan Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:24 am

    Jennison Myrie Williams?
    Daryl fucking Duffy?

    Laughing
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:24 am

    RubyArmyCTFC wrote:
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    Sorry never even heard of Hereford United before



    SPL is league one level? Not quite.

    I see all this talk but no substance. Show me WHY .. you just talk pish but don't back yourself up

    Well for starters four league ones sides with higher average higher crowds then the SPL's third biggest club in Hearts. Then there are players like Jennison Myrie Williams who flopped with Cheltenham, yet went on to play for Dundee United and St Johnstone between 2009 - 2011. Dundee United being in the Europa League at that time. Then there is Daryl Duffy who flopped at Bristol Rovers in league one, yet joined Hibernian on loan for 7 games. Now he's playing for us in league 2. Another example is Kris boyd who managed 168 goals in the SPL who was very ordinary at Middlesborough in the Championship.




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    Kris Boyd was outstanding at Nottingham Forest though, scored 7 in 9. When he had good players around him, Middlesbrough were shit.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:25 am

    Harrold wrote:Don't forget Mr.Agogo who had a spell at Hibs.

    Or Ivan Sproule.

    It's called having better players around you.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:25 am

    RubyArmyCTFC wrote:
    Heart of Midlothian FC 13625
    Hibernian FC 12145
    Aberdeen FC 10191
    Dundee United FC 6944
    Motherwell FC 6027
    St Mirren 5447
    Kilmarnock FC 5156
    Dunfermline Athletic FC 5016
    St Johnstone FC 4678
    Inverness Caledonian Thistle 4545

    League one attendances

    Sheffield Wed 20641
    Sheffield Utd 18044
    Charlton 17234
    Huddersfield 13896


    So you are allowed to include your highest, but you miss out Celtic and Rangers because you know it would show yours up.

    League One top four average attendances

    20,902
    18,078
    17,406
    14,020


    SPL top four average attendances

    49,441
    46,241
    13,625
    9,856

    League One Average amongst top four = 15,854
    SPL Average amongst top four = 29,790




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    Post by TheRangersFan Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:26 am

    One of my flatmates is a Hibs fan and he says that Junior Agogo is the worst striker they've had in years, and they have had alot of shit recently. Laughing
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    Post by Harrold Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:27 am

    TheRangersFan wrote:One of my flatmates is a Hibs fan and he says that Junior Agogo is the worst striker they've had in years, and they have had alot of shit recently. Laughing

    He's a lazy cunt. He is shit.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:29 am

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    Well for starters four league ones sides with higher average higher crowds then the SPL's third biggest club in Hearts. Then there are players like Jennison Myrie Williams who flopped with Cheltenham, yet went on to play for Dundee United and St Johnstone between 2009 - 2011. Dundee United being in the Europa League at that time. Then there is Daryl Duffy who flopped at Bristol Rovers in league one, yet joined Hibernian on loan for 7 games. Now he's playing for us in league 2. Another example is Kris boyd who managed 168 goals in the SPL who was very ordinary at Middlesborough in the Championship.




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    Aberdeen FC 10191
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    Dunfermline Athletic FC 5016
    St Johnstone FC 4678
    Inverness Caledonian Thistle 4545

    League one attendances

    Sheffield Wed 20641
    Sheffield Utd 18044
    Charlton 17234
    Huddersfield 13896

    Kris Boyd was outstanding at Nottingham Forest though, scored 7 in 9. When he had good players around him, Middlesbrough were shit.

    *6 in 10 shifty
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:44 am

    RubyArmyCTFC wrote:
    The Maestro wrote:

    Sorry never even heard of Hereford United before



    SPL is league one level? Not quite.

    I see all this talk but no substance. Show me WHY .. you just talk pish but don't back yourself up

    Well for starters four league ones sides with higher average higher crowds then the SPL's third biggest club in Hearts. Then there are players like Jennison Myrie Williams who flopped with Cheltenham, yet went on to play for Dundee United and St Johnstone between 2009 - 2011. Dundee United being in the Europa League at that time. Then there is Daryl Duffy who flopped at Bristol Rovers in league one, yet joined Hibernian on loan for 7 games. Now he's playing for us in league 2. Another example is Kris boyd who managed 168 goals in the SPL who was very ordinary at Middlesborough in the Championship.


    Harrold wrote:Don't forget Mr.Agogo who had a spell at Hibs.

    Or Ivan Sproule.

    Agogo, Duffy, Sproule, Myre-Williams: all poor in the SPL, apart from Sproule back when he had pace. Just because they played in the SPL doesn't support your point. They were bad signings.

    If we're naming names let's go for Charlie Adam, Ross McCormack and Ricardo Vaz Te.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:45 am

    Billy Davies wrote:
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    Kris Boyd was outstanding at Nottingham Forest though, scored 7 in 9. When he had good players around him, Middlesbrough were shit.

    *6 in 10 shifty

    *starts
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    Post by RubyArmyCTFC Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:55 am

    The Maestro wrote:
    RubyArmyCTFC wrote:
    Heart of Midlothian FC 13625
    Hibernian FC 12145
    Aberdeen FC 10191
    Dundee United FC 6944
    Motherwell FC 6027
    St Mirren 5447
    Kilmarnock FC 5156
    Dunfermline Athletic FC 5016
    St Johnstone FC 4678
    Inverness Caledonian Thistle 4545

    League one attendances

    Sheffield Wed 20641
    Sheffield Utd 18044
    Charlton 17234
    Huddersfield 13896


    So you are allowed to include your highest, but you miss out Celtic and Rangers because you know it would show yours up.

    League One top four average attendances

    20,902
    18,078
    17,406
    14,020


    SPL top four average attendances

    49,441
    46,241
    13,625
    9,856

    League One Average amongst top four = 15,854
    SPL Average amongst top four = 29,790



    Don't know how you added up the league one averages, but that is certainly not right. It's 17,602 by the way...

    And my stats show that bar Celtic and Rangers, the rest of the league is full of bog-standard football league rejects, playing for small/ mid average sized clubs with league one esque crowds.
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    Post by claretandbluewhu Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:00 am

    49,441
    46,241
    13,625
    9,856

    Quoting that and using it to 'prove' that the SPL is better only proves it is shitter than I thought it was

    rofl
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:00 am

    RubyArmyCTFC wrote:
    The Maestro wrote:


    So you are allowed to include your highest, but you miss out Celtic and Rangers because you know it would show yours up.

    League One top four average attendances

    20,902
    18,078
    17,406
    14,020


    SPL top four average attendances

    49,441
    46,241
    13,625
    9,856

    League One Average amongst top four = 15,854
    SPL Average amongst top four = 29,790



    Don't know how you added up the league one averages, but that is certainly not right. It's 17,602 by the way...

    And my stats show that bar Celtic and Rangers, the rest of the league is full of bog-standard football league rejects, playing for small/ mid average sized clubs with league one esque crowds.

    The football league is full of SPL rejects mate: McManus, O'Dea, Adam, Crainey, Ross Wallace, Vaz Te, McCormack, Hooiveld, Murphy, Marshall, Fortune, Fox - the list goes on. All starting in the Championship or higher now and undisputed SPL rejects.
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    Post by Uncle John from Jamaica Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:07 am

    You call them 'SPL rejects' but lets be honest here, would any SPL team bar the old firm turn down Charlie Adam or McCormack in the starting line up? Would they fuck.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:07 am

    They aren't SPL rejects.

    They clearly possessed too much quality to play in a league that was dragging them down, so had to move on to play at a higher standard of quality
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:09 am

    Billy Davies wrote:They aren't SPL rejects.

    They clearly possessed too much quality to play in a league that was dragging them down, so had to move on to play at a higher standard of quality

    No, they're rejects. Suspect
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    Post by easley91 Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:10 am

    There's only one way to settle this..



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    Post by TheRangersFan Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:10 am

    McCormack is hardly an SPL reject. Motherwell wanted to keep him but he moved to the Championship because he was offered more money. Laughing

    Just because a player moves leagues, it doesn't mean he was a reject of the league he left.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:12 am

    ConorCelticFC wrote:
    Billy Davies wrote:They aren't SPL rejects.

    They clearly possessed too much quality to play in a league that was dragging them down, so had to move on to play at a higher standard of quality

    No, they're rejects. Suspect

    No, they just couldn't handle the poor quality around them so had to move on.

    In fact, they probably are rejects in Scotland actually.

    But being an SPL reject is the equivalent for not meeting the standards of a Paralympic side
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    Post by ConorCelticFC Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:16 am

    TheRangersFan wrote:McCormack is hardly an SPL reject. Motherwell wanted to keep him but he moved to the Championship because he was offered more money. Laughing

    Just because a player moves leagues, it doesn't mean he was a reject of the league he left.

    McCormack was awful for Motherwell. If you think the players I named are just random ones who previously played in Scotland you need a lobotomy. Every one was allowed to go by SPL sides or performed poorly for them.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:23 pm

    If they want to join the English league system, it's only fair they start at the bottom level just like any other club wanting to join the system. Obviously I can see why Celtic would not want to play at the very bottom. So I think they should form a new club (like a B team) and have them get promoted in the weaker leagues. Over time, move your first team to this B team.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 1:44 pm

    I wonder, what opinions and precedents such a thing would hold, to have a club have teams in two separate leagues in two separate associations.

    Only Udinese and their partnership with Granada comes to mind but it is not really the same.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:08 pm

    If Celtic and/or Rangers want to play football in England should have to start from the very bottom, Start from the 11th tier of English football or lower.
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:11 pm

    SuperManUtd wrote:If Celtic and/or Rangers want to play football in England should have to start from the very bottom, Start from the 11th tier of English football or lower.

    Make their fans enjoy the decade wait. Celtic linked with League One switch - Page 5 207657
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 5:14 pm

    Phadunkin Donuts wrote:
    SuperManUtd wrote:If Celtic and/or Rangers want to play football in England should have to start from the very bottom, Start from the 11th tier of English football or lower.

    Make their fans enjoy the decade wait. Celtic linked with League One switch - Page 5 207657

    Hell yes, AFC Wimbledon had to do it that way, So if Celtic wanna join thats the way they have too do it too.
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    Post by Lux Mon Mar 19, 2012 8:22 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:If they want to join the English league system, it's only fair they start at the bottom level just like any other club wanting to join the system. Obviously I can see why Celtic would not want to play at the very bottom. So I think they should form a new club (like a B team) and have them get promoted in the weaker leagues. Over time, move your first team to this B team.

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    Post by Marvin Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:12 pm

    ConorCelticFC wrote:
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    Well for starters four league ones sides with higher average higher crowds then the SPL's third biggest club in Hearts. Then there are players like Jennison Myrie Williams who flopped with Cheltenham, yet went on to play for Dundee United and St Johnstone between 2009 - 2011. Dundee United being in the Europa League at that time. Then there is Daryl Duffy who flopped at Bristol Rovers in league one, yet joined Hibernian on loan for 7 games. Now he's playing for us in league 2. Another example is Kris boyd who managed 168 goals in the SPL who was very ordinary at Middlesborough in the Championship.


    Harrold wrote:Don't forget Mr.Agogo who had a spell at Hibs.

    Or Ivan Sproule.

    Agogo, Duffy, Sproule, Myre-Williams: all poor in the SPL, apart from Sproule back when he had pace. Just because they played in the SPL doesn't support your point. They were bad signings.

    If we're naming names let's go for Charlie Adam, Ross McCormack and Ricardo Vaz Te.
    Why do you keep mentioning Vaz Te? He had just come back from two very serious injuries, Hibs were the first team he had played for since. Dude probably hadn't even kicked a ball in years and lacked match fitness. He always had talent, there's no question about that. Has nothing to do with Hibs.

    And fuck locking this, keep all your SPL v the world battles in here.
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    Post by Laurencio Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:38 pm

    I fail to see the problem. I'm sure a promotr league 2 club woukd be willing to give Celtic their place in exchange for ample compensation. It's not like Celtic can't afford it.
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    Post by Kuled Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:43 pm

    League 1 = SPL?
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 19, 2012 11:44 pm

    i think it sbetter for celtic to enter league 2, maybe league 1 is to competitive and to strong for them

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