RR why bring scotland in to this? there is no contest and everyone knows the SPL is one of the worst leagues in europe.
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What's happening to English football?
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Beside's from the top 2 in each league I think the quality is equal, Valencia and Bilbao are really underrated though.Lux wrote:The Maestro wrote:
I said nothing about La Liga. Their fans don't always say how competitive their league is. Ask a Premier League fan why they think the Premiership is the greatest league in the world, they can't justify having better teams, because La Liga has much more quality, so they resort to saying it's the most competitive.
La Liga has more quality........
Or Madrid + Barca have more quality......?
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Ed wrote:Bilbao are not a better team than united. They had a good day and United had a bad day. Im sure on their day the likes of newcastle and liverpool and other midtable clubs could beat Bilbao.The Maestro wrote:
La Liga as a whole has more quality. This week we saw 6th in La Liga completely rag doll 1st in the Premier League
Whole post full of assumptions. Going on FACT, Bilbao rag dolled United.
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Offtopic but Bundesliga overtaking Italy for champions league spots is disgusting
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Fuck off.Fonseca wrote:Offtopic but Bundesliga overtaking Italy for champions league spots is disgusting
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Fonseca wrote:Offtopic but Bundesliga overtaking Italy for champions league spots is disgusting
Why? The coefficients aren't subjective.
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ahlycotc wrote:Fonseca wrote:Offtopic but Bundesliga overtaking Italy for champions league spots is disgusting
Why? The coefficients aren't subjective.
They're flawed, like most systems
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Just because some team beat another doesn't instantly make them better than them. Basel is not a better club and Manchester United just because Basel beat them.
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Swansea are now better than Man City. Don't worry, it's Maestro's idea.....what can possibly be wrong?
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In the last 15 months we have beat the Spanish, Italian and the German Champions.Lux wrote:Swansea are now better than Man City. Don't worry, it's Maestro's idea.....what can possibly be wrong?
Arsenal = Best team in the world.
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Lux wrote:Swansea are now better than Man City. Don't worry, it's Maestro's idea.....what can possibly be wrong?
I never said Bilbao were a better team, I said they rag dolled United.
Both Englands top two never made it out of their Champions League group and struggling in the Europa .. Just one bad game? Gimp.
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Lu❣s Suarez wrote:Poland > England
Look at this man kids, don't do drugs.
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support your local teams and stop worrying about being the best in the world
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The Maestro wrote:Lux wrote:Swansea are now better than Man City. Don't worry, it's Maestro's idea.....what can possibly be wrong?
I never said Bilbao were a better team, I said they rag dolled United.
Both Englands top two never made it out of their Champions League group and struggling in the Europa .. Just one bad game? Gimp.
Eh? My point was that it's one bad year, not one bad game.
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Radford wrote:support your local teams and become mindless simpletons getting drunk because the footballs bad
Agreed
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Simpletons? Ok then give me football down here ahead of paying 39 quid at grounds like Norwich any day.
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Fonseca wrote:Radford wrote:support your local teams and become mindless simpletons getting drunk because the footballs bad
Agreed
ill enjoy my trips around the country whilst you enjoy your armchair, simpleton
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lo lo loRadford wrote:Fonseca wrote:
Agreed
ill enjoy my trips around the country whilst you enjoy your armchair, simpleton
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Radford wrote:Fonseca wrote:
Agreed
ill enjoy my trips around the country whilst you enjoy your armchair, simpleton
I wouldn't wish that on anyone
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and by english football surely you must be referring to all 4 divisions, the championship is easily the best quality 2nd tier division, same with league 1 and league 2.
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Lux wrote:The Maestro wrote:
I never said Bilbao were a better team, I said they rag dolled United.
Both Englands top two never made it out of their Champions League group and struggling in the Europa .. Just one bad game? Gimp.
Eh? My point was that it's one bad year, not one bad game.
No it wasn't. Look at your post
Lux wrote:Swansea are now better than Man City. Don't worry, it's Maestro's idea.....what can possibly be wrong?
Firsly that's you trying to make it out as if i said Bilbao were better than United because they won. that's not the case. What has City and Swansea got to do with one bad year? You're point was that United had one bad game .. and I said both englands top two never made it out of their champions league groups and are struggling in the europa .. it's hardly one bad game.
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Ed wrote:and by english football surely you must be referring to all 4 divisions, the championship is easily the best quality 2nd tier division, same with league 1 and league 2.
What other 2nd divisions do you watch around the world? Do enlighten us
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Ed wrote:and by english football surely you must be referring to all 4 divisions, the championship is easily the best quality 2nd tier division, same with league 1 and league 2.
english football is absolutely fine, the conference is the strongest it has ever been. Championship, league 1 and league 2 have improved their overall quality too.
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How? You can't expect to claim something like that without backing it up.Ed wrote:and by english football surely you must be referring to all 4 divisions, the championship is easily the best quality 2nd tier division, same with league 1 and league 2.
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Bullshit, The Bundesliga II is better.Ed wrote:and by english football surely you must be referring to all 4 divisions, the championship is easily the best quality 2nd tier division, same with league 1 and league 2.
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it just... is, we had a championship team narrowly miss out on progressing through in the europa league. And that team isnt even in the automatic promotion spots, does that not say anything?
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The Maestro wrote:No it wasn't. Look at your post
Yes it was. Look at my first post.
Lux wrote:1 bad year. Doubt it'll be as bad next time round...
The Maestro wrote:Lux wrote:Swansea are now better than Man City. Don't worry, it's Maestro's idea.....what can possibly be wrong?
Firsly that's you trying to make it out as if i said Bilbao were better than United because they won. that's not the case. What has City and Swansea got to do with one bad year? You're point was that United had one bad game .. and I said both englands top two never made it out of their champions league groups and are struggling in the europa .. it's hardly one bad game.
You said Bilbao rag dolled Man Utd. You didn't add your elaborations until after I had posted, so obviously I took it how you said it.
End of that........and like I said, I think it's just a bad year. Explained by form, concentration on the league, transitions.....all kinds of things. One option is simply that England are getting worse....or that Europe is becoming more competitive....(I find the latter more likely)....but at the moment I'd say it's too soon to assume either.
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"It just is" is not a good argument. And the second part is cherry picking. I could use the same competition to make the BPL look bad by mentioning that their third best team couldn't get out of their group, but that would be cherry picking too.Ed wrote:it just... is, we had a championship team narrowly miss out on progressing through in the europa league. And that team isnt even in the automatic promotion spots, does that not say anything?
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ok, there is no way of proving that the championship is better than other tier 2 divisions, as they rarely, if ever, play each other. But the majority would agree that it is the best 2nd tier league.Ché Guayaba wrote:"It just is" is not a good argument. And the second part is cherry picking. I could use the same competition to make the BPL look bad by mentioning that their third best team couldn't get out of their group, but that would be cherry picking too.Ed wrote:it just... is, we had a championship team narrowly miss out on progressing through in the europa league. And that team isnt even in the automatic promotion spots, does that not say anything?
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Argumentum ad populum.Ed wrote:ok, there is no way of proving that the championship is better than other tier 2 divisions, as they rarely, if ever, play each other. But the majority would agree that it is the best 2nd tier league.Ché Guayaba wrote:"It just is" is not a good argument. And the second part is cherry picking. I could use the same competition to make the BPL look bad by mentioning that their third best team couldn't get out of their group, but that would be cherry picking too.
