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    What's happening to English football?

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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:54 am

    Kuled wrote:Is this why you were dying to see us lose Laughing
    The Maestro wrote:Man City .. didn't even make it out of their Champions League group Debut season in Europe and given the group of death, was always going to be tough for them
    United were the same and put out by BaselShit form
    Same with Tottenham .. never even made it out of their Europa group finishing behind Paok Salonika and Rubin KazanThey played their B team in the Europa League Neutral

    Chelsea already look beaten by NapoliSo many problems on and off the pitch, Chelsea were always going to lose the first leg, second leg still to play

    Arsenal .. papped out by MilanLol, they were brilliant in the second leg and probably should've gone through

    facepalm

    Anyway, Milan deserved it and were the better over the two legs.
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    Post by Weather130 Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:25 am

    Strange that noone here seems to remember about some great results from Birmingham City, Fulham, and Stoke City. If not for a bad final day all three of these teams could have got past the group stage. Then you seemingly ignore the qualifying stage these teams went through. Open your eyes there is some quality football played below the top five or six teams in the table.
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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:18 pm

    English clubs have just had a bad season this season. I'm sure they can pick up next season. However, the quality of the teams has been on the decline in general compared to other top leagues in Europe (just not enough to justify this year's performances).
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    Post by Mario Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:54 pm

    Lol at quote in your sig Ahly
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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:56 pm

    Mario wrote:Lol at quote in your sig Ahly

    Pep knows how to troll Pele. not worthy
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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:32 pm

    sky brainwashed all of england into thinking it is a top league in reality the epl is probably 4th or 5th best league in the world
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:38 pm

    I care about my club, don't give a fuck what position it is in the "best leagues in the world." But I don't agree it's 4th/5th best in the world.

    Agree with ahly's post as well.
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    Post by Guest Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:54 pm

    Yeah, I agree. Probably a bit lower than that really. 6th, maybe 5th.

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    And I imagine a lot of people care because they actually support a club where they live in, in a leauge that's in that country they live in and therefore associate with that country or most likely because playing in a difficult leauge makes every loss, or every win that much more significant to them.

    That's where the, "luz Wolves could win the SPL" type of stuff comes from.
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    Post by Vexxed Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:54 pm

    City had little experience

    United was riddled with injuries and definitely fielded squads that were terrible to focus on their spot in the
    league.

    Chelsea have Torres

    Arsenal took half of the season to realize they weren't as bad as everyone told them they should be

    I think next season will show different but only time will tell.
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:56 pm

    Ché Guayaba wrote:Yeah, I agree. Probably a bit lower than that really. 6th, maybe 5th.

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    And I imagine a lot of people care because they actually support a club where they live in, in a leauge that's in that country they live in and therefore associate with that country or most likely because playing in a difficult leauge makes every loss, or every win that much more significant to them.

    That's where the, "luz Wolves could win the SPL" type of stuff comes from.

    Name the leagues in order of which are the best.
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    Post by Vexxed Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:59 pm

    Phadunkin Donuts wrote:
    Ché Guayaba wrote:Yeah, I agree. Probably a bit lower than that really. 6th, maybe 5th.

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    And I imagine a lot of people care because they actually support a club where they live in, in a leauge that's in that country they live in and therefore associate with that country or most likely because playing in a difficult leauge makes every loss, or every win that much more significant to them.

    That's where the, "luz Wolves could win the SPL" type of stuff comes from.

    Name the leagues in order of which are the best.

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    Post by Mario Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:05 pm

    Lol. give it two seasons and Spain is first on that list.
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    Post by Mario Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:05 pm

    Not even two, one is enough.
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    Post by SBSP Fri Mar 09, 2012 4:16 pm

    I can see Spain leapfrogging England within a year or two in the coefficients.

    I didn't even read the last two posts before posting this. Neutral
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    Post by FishnChips Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:31 pm

    I can only think of one good reason why English football is still ahead of Spanish football, and that is because the Spanish league is really just a two-horse race while the real action lies between the 3rd and 6th spot.
    However, it also always ends up being a two-horse race in English football aswell, but there's a slight difference. In Spain it's always Barcelona and Madrid while in England the teams aren't that defined yet, it's been United and Chelsea mostly lately but in recent years Liverpool, Arsenal and this year City. Mathematically, Spurs are very much still in the race this season, but realistically it's between the two manc clubs.

    I can see Spanish football being the best soon enough.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:50 am

    Most competitive league in the world by far!! Can't believe how many clubs are battling it out for the title

    man utd 0
    man city 0
    tottenham -14
    arsenal -18
    chelsea -18
    newcastle -23
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    Post by Andy Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:54 am

    The Maestro wrote:Most competitive league in the world by far!! Can't believe how many clubs are battling it out for the title

    man utd 0
    man city 0
    tottenham -14
    arsenal -18
    chelsea -18
    newcastle -23
    liverpool -27
    Now look at La Liga.
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    Post by Kuled Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:56 am

    How many teams are battling out in Spain again?
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:01 am

    The Eredivisie looks the best for competitiveness tbh:

    1. Ajax - 49 points
    2. Alkmaar - 49 points
    3. FC Twente - 48 points
    4. PSV - 48 points
    5. Heerenveen - 48 points


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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:01 am

    Kuled wrote:How many teams are battling out in Spain again?

    I think there is like a 10 point difference between 4th and 17th. Take out the two best teams on Earth by miles and you have yourself a very competitive league.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:02 am

    Poland > England
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    Post by Andy Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:03 am

    30 point difference between 1st and 4th. Neutral
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    Post by Van Wolfswinkel Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:04 am

    The Maestro wrote:Most competitive league in the world by far!! Can't believe how many clubs are battling it out for the title

    man utd 0
    man city 0
    tottenham -14
    arsenal -18
    chelsea -18
    newcastle -23
    liverpool -27

    We are just giving the Manchester sides a false sense of security. We shall win every match from now on and win the league in the process.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:04 am

    Kuled wrote:How many teams are battling out in Spain again?

    I said nothing about La Liga. Their fans don't always say how competitive their league is. Ask a Premier League fan why they think the Premiership is the greatest league in the world, they can't justify having better teams, because La Liga has much more quality, so they resort to saying it's the most competitive.
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    Post by Jorlung Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:18 am

    I don't think the Premier League is the greatest league in the world... But it's my favourite, don't see anything wrong with that.
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    Post by Lux Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:32 am

    The Maestro wrote:
    Kuled wrote:How many teams are battling out in Spain again?

    I said nothing about La Liga. Their fans don't always say how competitive their league is. Ask a Premier League fan why they think the Premiership is the greatest league in the world, they can't justify having better teams, because La Liga has much more quality, so they resort to saying it's the most competitive.

    La Liga has more quality........

    Or Madrid + Barca have more quality......?
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:35 am

    Lux wrote:
    The Maestro wrote:

    I said nothing about La Liga. Their fans don't always say how competitive their league is. Ask a Premier League fan why they think the Premiership is the greatest league in the world, they can't justify having better teams, because La Liga has much more quality, so they resort to saying it's the most competitive.

    La Liga has more quality........

    Or Madrid + Barca have more quality......?

    La Liga as a whole has more quality. This week we saw 6th in La Liga completely rag doll 1st in the Premier League
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:37 am

    The Maestro wrote:
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    La Liga has more quality........

    Or Madrid + Barca have more quality......?

    La Liga as a whole has more quality. This week we saw 6th in La Liga completely rag doll 1st in the Premier League
    Bilbao are not a better team than united. They had a good day and United had a bad day. Im sure on their day the likes of newcastle and liverpool and other midtable clubs could beat Bilbao.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Mon Mar 12, 2012 4:38 am

    The Maestro wrote:Most competitive league in the world by far!! Can't believe how many clubs are battling it out for the title

    man utd 0
    man city 0
    tottenham -14
    arsenal -18
    chelsea -18
    newcastle -23
    liverpool -27

    Look at Scotland!

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    Motherwell -24
    Dundee Utd. -35
    St. Johnstone -35
    Heart of Midlothian -36
    Kilmarnock -41

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