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Luis Suarez made RACIST comments towards Patrice Evra
SBSP-
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Mousey, seriously, just shut up. You've posted that about 50 times in this thread.
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Polska, how is saying "negro" to Evra not supposed to be taken as racist? Who the hell blurts out "black" to a black person and acts like it's nothing?
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Black.ahlycotc wrote:Polska, how is saying "negro" to Evra not supposed to be taken as racist? Who the hell blurts out "black" to a black person and acts like it's nothing?
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SBSP wrote:Mousey, seriously, just shut up. You've posted that about 50 times in this thread.
Oui.
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Liverpool have given their firm backing to Luis Suárez over his denial that he racially abused Patrice Evra at Anfield on Saturday – and want the Manchester United defender to receive a ban from the Football Association should his accusations prove groundless.
The Uruguay international has vehemently denied Evra's allegations that he racially abused him during Liverpool's 1-1 draw with United and will fight to clear his name if the FA decides to open a disciplinary case.
Suárez has also received a show of support from his employers. A Liverpool spokesman said: "Luis is adamant that he has not used language of that nature and the club is totally supportive of the player."
The inquiry will begin with the FA asking to speak to Evra on Monday to ascertain whether he intends to make an official complaint. Evra's accusation is that he was called "a ice cream" – the Senegal-born Frenchman said he heard it "at least 10 times" – but Suárez insists it is not true.
"I'm upset by the accusations of racism," he said. "I can only say that I have always respected, and respect, everybody. We are all the same." Liverpool have accepted Suárez's version of events and, given the potential repercussions for their striker if Evra's allegations are proven, believe the France international should have a disciplinary case to answer if allegations of this magnitude are dropped.
Evra, accompanied by Sir Alex Ferguson, asked to see the referee Andre Marriner, after the match to report the alleged incidents and later expressed his anger in an interview with Canal Plus.
"In 2011, there are things you can't say any more," he said. "The referee knows and there will be an investigation. But I don't want to repeat what he said." The interviewer asked if Suárez had used racist words and he replied: "Yes, he did. We can see thanks to the television what he said. He said it at least 10 times. We can read it on his lips."
Evra's complaints have been included in Marriner's match report but the referee has also informed the FA and the Premier League that the first he knew of it was after the match. The two players could be seen exchanging words at various points of the second half but it may count against Evra that he did not raise the alleged offence with Marriner during the game.
On that basis, Evra will almost certainly need back-up statements from his United team-mates if the FA is to decide there is evidence to make a case against Suárez. United would not say if there were witnesses to Evra's allegations but, without them, the authorities may decide it is a case of one man's word against another.
In 2008 Evra was at the centre of accusations that he was racially abused by a groundsman at Chelsea while warming down. But an FA hearing into the allegation – which was made by a Manchester United employee – found that it was not proven. Evra was subsequently banned for four games and fined £15,000 for his part in the post-match altercation with the groundsman. The controversy comes at a particularly bad time given that Saturday's match launched Kick It Out's three-week "One Game, One Community" action programme, with players from both sides wearing anti-racism T-shirts, and every manager through the leagues wearing one of the organisation's badges.
A message was read out before the game saying that Liverpool did not tolerate racism of any form, and there was a message in the club programme, including a telephone number for supporters to report anyone guilty of offences.
Lord Herman Ouesley, the chairman of Kick It Out, said any footballer guilty of racism should face "severe action" both from the FA and the player's club, but "you would have to be able to prove it beyond reasonable doubt".
He added: "There were incidents in the second half and Evra seemed to get very agitated so something was obviously bugging him because he was quite incensed. But if this happened he should have brought it to the attention of the referee at the time."
This is going to end nasty.
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If Evra is banned then we got Jonny Evans
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Brilliant behaviour from Liverpool, demand punishment for a victim of racial abuse unless he can prove it, what a fucking bunch of cunts. I can't think of a better way for racism to go unreported and unpunished in the future.
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If Evra did make it up, I hope he gets banned for 10 games and he's one of my favourite players.
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Well, Evra got banned last time he made an accusation; it's not like Liverpool have just said it without there being any history of that sort of punishment for falsely accusing someone
Kuled-
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I can't believe Evra would do this though. Maybe there was a misunderstanding....10 times though?
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Evra was absolutely furious at something, but my gut tells me Suarez didn't say anything racist (srs)
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I struggle to believe that he said it 10 times without anyone else hearing it, I want to see if any other Man Utd players stand up and say they heard it.
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Me too. I know Suarez is known for his bad attitude but I don't think he's a racist.kyro7 wrote:Evra was absolutely furious at something, but my gut tells me Suarez didn't say anything racist (srs)
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Last time he was backed up and it didn't make any difference.
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I don't really like what Liverpool said, I would only want Evra to be banned if it was proven he is lying, I don't know how that could be done, but banning him when it's not proven he's lying would surely encourage victims of racial abuse to keep quiet in risk of getting banned.
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Where did it say that they have asked for him to be banned?
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The first/second lineCam wrote:Where did it say that they have asked for him to be banned?
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Read it as a headline, not sure if Liverpool actually did say anything.
Liverpool want Patrice Evra ban if Luis Suárez race claim is groundless
Liverpool want Patrice Evra ban if Luis Suárez race claim is groundless
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I don't buy it, why didn't he tell the ref during the time he pulled him over. Why did no one else here it? Rio was in the area.
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Where is the statement? It's just a news reporter trying to get people to read it, there is nothing from liverpool apart from that they believe Suarez.
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Mc Babel wrote:I don't buy it, why didn't he tell the ref during the time he pulled him over. Why did no one else here it? Rio was in the area.
Maybe because Rio was a bit busy with doing, erm, defending? Not trying to listen into Evra & Suarez petty conversation.. What was the ref supposed to do? Take Evra's word for it at the time and send Suarez off without any proper evidence?
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It would have helped if Evra had said something so the Ref could keep an eye on it..
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Why should Evra be banned? Quite a idiotic suggestion.
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No but when people are all in the box if he heard the word "nigga" he'd probably pick it up.luke. wrote:Mc Babel wrote:I don't buy it, why didn't he tell the ref during the time he pulled him over. Why did no one else here it? Rio was in the area.
Maybe because Rio was a bit busy with doing, erm, defending? Not trying to listen into Evra & Suarez petty conversation.. What was the ref supposed to do? Take Evra's word for it at the time and send Suarez off without any proper evidence?
Also it doesn't matter if the ref wouldn't of done anything it's just something you'd mention.
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So in a ground where you have 38'000 animals (Liverpool fans) screaming and whining about their poor future as a club you expect people on the pitch to hear Suarez call Evra a niqqer?Mc Babel wrote:No but when people are all in the box if he heard the word "nigga" he'd probably pick it up.luke. wrote:
Maybe because Rio was a bit busy with doing, erm, defending? Not trying to listen into Evra & Suarez petty conversation.. What was the ref supposed to do? Take Evra's word for it at the time and send Suarez off without any proper evidence?
Also it doesn't matter if the ref wouldn't of done anything it's just something you'd mention.
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I wonder which player they'll ask, the adulterer, the gigolo who destroyed his family, or the granny nobber
If he allegedly said something ten times why did the cameras not pick it up and why are sky not showering us with clips of it.
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Why would Suarez call Evra a nigga anyway? Makes no sense. If he said it 10 times as Evra claimed, someone in the box WILL have heard it, regardless of the barbarity of Liverpool fans.