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    Scholes?

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    Is Scholes the greatest English player ever?

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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:51 pm

    mauro=beast wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:
    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:The older generation tend to have a tendency of overrating players from the 60s take Alan (Liverpool FC 4 ever) as an example, 'Dalglish is one of the best players ever' Scholes? - Page 4 70955

    typical, that old man needs a brain transplant

    he also said previously that alan hansen is better than any defender of the current decade

    He's definitely right up there with the best at the very least.

    no

    He is. Don't you deny it Mauro.

    620 games for the best club in the world at the time, 8 League Titles, 3 European Cups, 3 League Cups and 2 FA Cups at a time where football in this country wasn't all about money and it was a much even playing field?

    Fantastic footballer and one of the greatest ever defenders. Don't get your England/Liverpool bias get in the way of this one lad. It's sad to see an intelligent kid get lost in the word of trying to grab attention through trolling.

    I think, if any defender had the career that Alan Hansen had, they'd be pretty chuffed with it.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:52 pm

    People are saying Gerrard hasn't won fuck all with a World Class midfield? Er...Alonso-Mascherano looks pretty fucking classy to me, so does playing alongside a player who is just as good, if not better than Lionel Messi, Paul Scholes, Frank Lampard and David Beckham.
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    Post by luke. Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:52 pm

    Wait, this thread has moved on to Alan Hansen?

    Wow.
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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:53 pm

    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:The older generation tend to have a tendency of overrating players from the 60s take Alan (Liverpool FC 4 ever) as an example, 'Dalglish is one of the best players ever' Scholes? - Page 4 70955

    Dalglish was at his best in the 70,s and 80,s, then again you would not have realised this. But he was the known as best player in the greatest team in Europe in his time at Liverpool, but some people support a team that have never been the greatest team in Europe ever, in fact some have never even won a European cup. So i dont really have to answer how good he was or how good others thought he was.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:53 pm

    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:
    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:The older generation tend to have a tendency of overrating players from the 60s take Alan (Liverpool FC 4 ever) as an example, 'Dalglish is one of the best players ever' Scholes? - Page 4 70955

    typical, that old man needs a brain transplant

    he also said previously that alan hansen is better than any defender of the current decade

    He's definitely right up there with the best at the very least.

    no

    He is. Don't you deny it Mauro.

    620 games for the best club in the world at the time, 8 League Titles, 3 European Cups, 3 League Cups and 2 FA Cups at a time where football in this country wasn't all about money and it was a much even playing field?

    Fantastic footballer and one of the greatest ever defenders. Don't get your England/Liverpool bias get in the way of this one lad. It's sad to see an intelligent kid get lost in the word of trying to grab attention through trolling.

    I think, if any defender had the career that Alan Hansen had, they'd be pretty chuffed with it.

    He was playing at a time when a lot of players drank regularly and fitness was nowhere near what it was today, if he was dropped into the Liverpool defence today he'd be made mincemeat of.
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    Post by Danny Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:54 pm

    What a forum this is. When a Liverpool player is compared to anyone, people always find a way to get the thread about Liverpool. Fantastic. Laughing
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    Post by luke. Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:54 pm

    Danny wrote:What a forum this is. When a Liverpool player is compared to anyone, people always find a way to get the thread about Liverpool. Fantastic. Laughing

    What do you expect when they outnumber everyone else.
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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:56 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:

    typical, that old man needs a brain transplant

    he also said previously that alan hansen is better than any defender of the current decade

    He's definitely right up there with the best at the very least.

    no

    He is. Don't you deny it Mauro.

    620 games for the best club in the world at the time, 8 League Titles, 3 European Cups, 3 League Cups and 2 FA Cups at a time where football in this country wasn't all about money and it was a much even playing field?

    Fantastic footballer and one of the greatest ever defenders. Don't get your England/Liverpool bias get in the way of this one lad. It's sad to see an intelligent kid get lost in the word of trying to grab attention through trolling.

    I think, if any defender had the career that Alan Hansen had, they'd be pretty chuffed with it.

    He was playing at a time when a lot of players drank regularly and fitness was nowhere near what it was today, if he was dropped into the Liverpool defence today he'd be made mincemeat of.

    rofl

    That is awful by your standards.


    Doesn't that mean that as everyone drank regularly and fitness was nowhere near what it was today, George Best was just an average footballer?
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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:56 pm

    luke. wrote:
    Danny wrote:What a forum this is. When a Liverpool player is compared to anyone, people always find a way to get the thread about Liverpool. Fantastic. Laughing

    What do you expect when they outnumber everyone else.

    Fuck off.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:57 pm

    Dan wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:
    Dan wrote:

    He's definitely right up there with the best at the very least.

    no

    He is. Don't you deny it Mauro.

    620 games for the best club in the world at the time, 8 League Titles, 3 European Cups, 3 League Cups and 2 FA Cups at a time where football in this country wasn't all about money and it was a much even playing field?

    Fantastic footballer and one of the greatest ever defenders. Don't get your England/Liverpool bias get in the way of this one lad. It's sad to see an intelligent kid get lost in the word of trying to grab attention through trolling.

    I think, if any defender had the career that Alan Hansen had, they'd be pretty chuffed with it.

    He was playing at a time when a lot of players drank regularly and fitness was nowhere near what it was today, if he was dropped into the Liverpool defence today he'd be made mincemeat of.

    rofl

    That is awful by your standards.


    Doesn't that mean that as everyone drank regularly and fitness was nowhere near what it was today, George Best was just an average footballer?

    He was great at the time, he certainly wouldn't cut it in the modern day though.
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    Post by dena Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:58 pm

    Dan wrote:
    dena wrote:
    Dan wrote:People saying Scholes is the best English midfielder ever, then laughing at people that think Gerrard/Lampard are better than Scholes.. rofl

    There is a bigger gap between Gerrard/Lamps and Scholes between Scholes/the greatest English player

    Not at all.

    I'd love to see Scholes carry some of the shite sides that Gerrard has had to in the past. Scholes has always had the luxury of playing in the best team in the league, with the best players.

    Being in a good team should not be a crutch for players, Pele played with Garrincha, does that discredit his accomplishments? It's not Gerrard's fault Liverpool were ehhhhh during his prime.

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    Post by luke. Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:58 pm

    Dan wrote:
    luke. wrote:
    Danny wrote:What a forum this is. When a Liverpool player is compared to anyone, people always find a way to get the thread about Liverpool. Fantastic. Laughing

    What do you expect when they outnumber everyone else.

    Fuck off.

    Calm down Dan, I wasn't even having a dig, you know it's true.
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    Post by Guest Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:59 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:

    no

    He is. Don't you deny it Mauro.

    620 games for the best club in the world at the time, 8 League Titles, 3 European Cups, 3 League Cups and 2 FA Cups at a time where football in this country wasn't all about money and it was a much even playing field?

    Fantastic footballer and one of the greatest ever defenders. Don't get your England/Liverpool bias get in the way of this one lad. It's sad to see an intelligent kid get lost in the word of trying to grab attention through trolling.

    I think, if any defender had the career that Alan Hansen had, they'd be pretty chuffed with it.

    He was playing at a time when a lot of players drank regularly and fitness was nowhere near what it was today, if he was dropped into the Liverpool defence today he'd be made mincemeat of.

    rofl

    That is awful by your standards.


    Doesn't that mean that as everyone drank regularly and fitness was nowhere near what it was today, George Best was just an average footballer?

    He was great at the time, he certainly wouldn't cut it in the modern day though.

    Bullshit.

    With the advances in technology and fitness, they'd have been even better.
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    Post by dena Wed Aug 10, 2011 11:59 pm

    Who is the best English footballer anyway Neutral
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:00 am

    luke. wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    luke. wrote:
    Danny wrote:What a forum this is. When a Liverpool player is compared to anyone, people always find a way to get the thread about Liverpool. Fantastic. Laughing

    What do you expect when they outnumber everyone else.

    Fuck off.

    Calm down Dan, I wasn't even having a dig, you know it's true.

    You were. And it ain't mate. Look at the number of 'decent, honest posters' that will argue that Liverpool play in fuchsia pink if they could.
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    Post by BigAndy9 Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:00 am

    John Barnes > Paul Scholes
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:00 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:

    typical, that old man needs a brain transplant

    he also said previously that alan hansen is better than any defender of the current decade

    He's definitely right up there with the best at the very least.

    no

    He is. Don't you deny it Mauro.

    620 games for the best club in the world at the time, 8 League Titles, 3 European Cups, 3 League Cups and 2 FA Cups at a time where football in this country wasn't all about money and it was a much even playing field?

    Fantastic footballer and one of the greatest ever defenders. Don't get your England/Liverpool bias get in the way of this one lad. It's sad to see an intelligent kid get lost in the word of trying to grab attention through trolling.

    I think, if any defender had the career that Alan Hansen had, they'd be pretty chuffed with it.

    He was playing at a time when a lot of players drank regularly and fitness was nowhere near what it was today, if he was dropped into the Liverpool defence today he'd be made mincemeat of.

    I think he might have done things differently if he was playing today, and maybe he would have been even better.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:00 am

    dena wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    dena wrote:
    Dan wrote:People saying Scholes is the best English midfielder ever, then laughing at people that think Gerrard/Lampard are better than Scholes.. rofl

    There is a bigger gap between Gerrard/Lamps and Scholes between Scholes/the greatest English player

    Not at all.

    I'd love to see Scholes carry some of the shite sides that Gerrard has had to in the past. Scholes has always had the luxury of playing in the best team in the league, with the best players.

    Being in a good team should not be a crutch for players, Pele played with Garrincha, does that discredit his accomplishments? It's not Gerrard's fault Liverpool were ehhhhh during his prime.


    Never said it did. He deserves the praise because he was a fantastic footballer. Could he have done what Stevie did for us? I doubt it.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:01 am

    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:
    Filippo Inzaghi wrote:The older generation tend to have a tendency of overrating players from the 60s take Alan (Liverpool FC 4 ever) as an example, 'Dalglish is one of the best players ever' Scholes? - Page 4 70955

    typical, that old man needs a brain transplant

    he also said previously that alan hansen is better than any defender of the current decade

    He's definitely right up there with the best at the very least.

    no

    He is. Don't you deny it Mauro.

    620 games for the best club in the world at the time, 8 League Titles, 3 European Cups, 3 League Cups and 2 FA Cups at a time where football in this country wasn't all about money and it was a much even playing field?

    Fantastic footballer and one of the greatest ever defenders. Don't get your England/Liverpool bias get in the way of this one lad. It's sad to see an intelligent kid get lost in the word of trying to grab attention through trolling.

    I think, if any defender had the career that Alan Hansen had, they'd be pretty chuffed with it.

    no no no, has nothing to do with trolling - hansen was mediocrity

    i can name 1 defender who i also specifically name last time about this discussion with old man alan :cannavaro, but according to old man alan cannavaro 'cant lace his boots'. he is not fit for debate and/or taking to many of those pills

    this hansen chap would sniff the anus of cannavaro so much as to want to be as good as him

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    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:

    typical, that old man needs a brain transplant

    he also said previously that alan hansen is better than any defender of the current decade

    He's definitely right up there with the best at the very least.

    no

    He is. Don't you deny it Mauro.

    620 games for the best club in the world at the time, 8 League Titles, 3 European Cups, 3 League Cups and 2 FA Cups at a time where football in this country wasn't all about money and it was a much even playing field?

    Fantastic footballer and one of the greatest ever defenders. Don't get your England/Liverpool bias get in the way of this one lad. It's sad to see an intelligent kid get lost in the word of trying to grab attention through trolling.

    I think, if any defender had the career that Alan Hansen had, they'd be pretty chuffed with it.

    He was playing at a time when a lot of players drank regularly and fitness was nowhere near what it was today, if he was dropped into the Liverpool defence today he'd be made mincemeat of.

    hansen 'world class technique skills' was quote "20 years ahead of his time"
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    Post by luke. Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:01 am

    Dan wrote:
    luke. wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    luke. wrote:
    Danny wrote:What a forum this is. When a Liverpool player is compared to anyone, people always find a way to get the thread about Liverpool. Fantastic. Laughing

    What do you expect when they outnumber everyone else.

    Fuck off.

    Calm down Dan, I wasn't even having a dig, you know it's true.

    You were. And it ain't mate. Look at the number of 'decent, honest posters' that will argue that Liverpool play in fuchsia pink if they could.

    I actually wasn't, but if you insist...

    If there were more Chelsea fans then any other team on here then it'd be the same thing, or with any other club.
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    Post by BigAndy9 Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:02 am

    I agree he is englands greatest central midfielder but not atall miles ahead of gerrard, not englands best player though, nor midfielder
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    Post by Harrold Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:02 am

    dena wrote:Who is the best English footballer anyway Neutral

    Jordi has already said, Michael Ricketts.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:02 am

    If United hadn't had Scholes they wouldn't have been the best team in the League in 2006/07, 2002/03, 2000/01, 1999/2000 or even the Treble year. United were the best team BECAUSE they had Scholes, it's not just some weird coincidence that Scholes always played for the best team and Gerrard didn't.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:03 am

    Mauro, you're better than this. Trying to fill the post with phrases like 'sniff the anus' not only makes your point look even more thick than it already is, but it makes you look bad.
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:03 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:If United hadn't had Scholes they wouldn't have been the best team in the League in 2006/07, 2002/03, 2000/01, 1999/2000 or even the Treble year. United were the best team BECAUSE they had Scholes, it's not just some weird coincidence that Scholes always played for the best team and Gerrard didn't.

    Funny, because Fergie never wanted Gerrard to ever play for Man United ever did he?
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    Post by dena Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:03 am

    Dan wrote:
    dena wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    dena wrote:
    Dan wrote:People saying Scholes is the best English midfielder ever, then laughing at people that think Gerrard/Lampard are better than Scholes.. rofl

    There is a bigger gap between Gerrard/Lamps and Scholes between Scholes/the greatest English player

    Not at all.

    I'd love to see Scholes carry some of the shite sides that Gerrard has had to in the past. Scholes has always had the luxury of playing in the best team in the league, with the best players.

    Being in a good team should not be a crutch for players, Pele played with Garrincha, does that discredit his accomplishments? It's not Gerrard's fault Liverpool were ehhhhh during his prime.


    Never said it did. He deserves the praise because he was a fantastic footballer. Could he have done what Stevie did for us? I doubt it.

    Now we're getting into that 'could x have done y in z time period' type discussion which I stay away from. I think Scholes is a better player than Gerrard so that's what I base my comparisons on.
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    Post by El Jefe Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:04 am

    Love the way Mauro tries to argue against people's opinions on Hansen when he has probably hardly ever seen him play Laughing
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    Post by Guest Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:04 am

    Danny wrote:What a forum this is. When a Liverpool player is compared to anyone, people always find a way to get the thread about Liverpool. Fantastic. Laughing

    Well its funny how a Manchester United fan started the thread, and what do you expect when others start to mention other Liverpool players, if they mentioned a player from another club, they would probably post about them.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:05 am

    Dan wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:If United hadn't had Scholes they wouldn't have been the best team in the League in 2006/07, 2002/03, 2000/01, 1999/2000 or even the Treble year. United were the best team BECAUSE they had Scholes, it's not just some weird coincidence that Scholes always played for the best team and Gerrard didn't.

    Funny, because Fergie never wanted Gerrard to ever play for Man United ever did he?

    We turned him down.
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    Post by BigAndy9 Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:05 am

    Scholes is also a dirty thug

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