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    Messi in Copa America.

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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:37 pm

    BUENOS AIRES, Argentina — Lionel Messi is probably under the greatest pressure of his career, having been blamed for Argentina's poor performances in its first two matches at the Copa America.

    However, his teammates are coming to his defense and coach Sergio Batisa is expected to change his lineup for Monday's decisive match against Costa Rica, bringing in Gonzalo Higuain, Sergio Aguero and Angel Di Maria — and taking out Carlos Tevez, Ezequiel Lavezzi and either Ever Banega or Esteban Cambiasso.
    Messi's father, Jorge, said Friday his son was under "terrible pressure" and was upset when he and his teammates were booed off the pitch following Wednesday's 0-0 draw against Colombia.
    "Leo is really down about this," his father said in an interview on Radio 10. "He can't understand how this happened. It's the first time they've whistled at him."
    His father was referring to Wednesday's draw when Messi and his teammates were booed off the pitch. Twice voted the world's best player, Messi has done very little in two matches and his team has scored only one goal in 180 minutes.
    The Barcelona star was expected to help Argentina win its first major title in 18 years. Instead, the Gauchos must defeat what amounts to a second-string Costa Rica side on Monday. A loss and Argentina will almost surely fail to make the knockout stage, unthinkable for the host country which views itself as one of football's top half-dozen powers.
    Costa Rica and Mexico are using mostly under-23 Olympic-style squads in this tournament because they are not part of the South American confederation and are playing as guests teams to boost the field to 12. Their full-strength teams played in the Gold Cup last month in the United States.
    "Barcelona is another story," his father added. "It's a team that's been together for four years. The (Argentine) national team cannot match that. Playing in the Copa America at home in your own country is terrible pressure."
    Messi walked through a light training session on Friday, nursing a sore right ankle. He will play Monday, but he will have different teammates.
    "I'm think of changing the system," Batista said Friday in a column for the newspaper Clarin. "Messi is going to be the playmaker and play very close to his forwards."
    Batista is likely start Higuain, Aguero and Di Maria up front, replacing Carlos Tevez, Ezequiel Lavezzi and either Ever Banega or Esteban Cambiasso.
    Barcelona and Argentina midfielder Javier Mascherano said it unfair to blame only Messi, who is a bit of a stranger in Argentina. He left his native country for Spain when he was 12, has never played for a popular Argentine club and has a reserved personality that leaves some Argentines cold.
    "It's not Messi's fault we are not playing well," Mascherano. "We're not playing well as a team."
    "If after the game they (fans) insult you, they have a right to do it," he added. "We are aware of the situation, and it depends on us to turn it around. Beginning Monday we start another Copa America."

    http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/2011-07-08-283670122_x.htm
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    Post by SBSP Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:39 pm

    having been blamed for Argentina's poor performances in its first two matches at the Copa America

    By whom? Laughing
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:39 pm

    Messi is/always been shit for Argentina.

    /thread.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:41 pm

    win 4-0 with a messi hat trick and the fans will be singing his name and wanking over his posters
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:41 pm

    chiboygeorge wrote:Messi is/always been shit for Argentina.

    /thread.
    But why? He's the best player ever!
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:43 pm

    Chris wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:Messi is/always been shit for Argentina.

    /thread.
    But why? He's the best player ever!
    Argentina best ever or world best player ever? either way both are wrong. Neutral

    Never ever seen him give performance like in Barcelona playing for Argentina against South America teams especially.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:44 pm

    Chris wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:Messi is/always been shit for Argentina.

    /thread.
    But why? He's the best player ever!

    he has had shit managers for argentina that have no fucking idea how to integrate all the star attacking players, simple as

    and at barca when he makes smart runs his team mates find him.. not for argentina
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:45 pm

    chiboygeorge wrote:
    Chris wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:Messi is/always been shit for Argentina.

    /thread.
    But why? He's the best player ever!
    Argentina best ever or world best player ever? either way both are wrong. Neutral

    Never ever seen him give performance like in Barcelona playing for Argentina against South America teams especially.
    Well because Messi is rated so highly as an individual you would think he would.

    But without Xavi and Iniesta he seems a shadow of the Messi we know playing for Barca.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:51 pm

    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Chris wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:Messi is/always been shit for Argentina.

    /thread.
    But why? He's the best player ever!

    he has had shit managers for argentina that have no fucking idea how to integrate all the star attacking players, simple as

    and at barca when he makes smart runs his team mates find him.. not for argentina
    Why are people blaming Messi shit performances on managers? Roman played under this same managers and still have no problems...was still useful for Argentina where as Messi just can't perform well for them.
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    Post by Jamie Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:19 pm

    chiboygeorge wrote:
    ViVaRooney wrote:
    Chris wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:Messi is/always been shit for Argentina.

    /thread.
    But why? He's the best player ever!

    he has had shit managers for argentina that have no fucking idea how to integrate all the star attacking players, simple as

    and at barca when he makes smart runs his team mates find him.. not for argentina
    Why are people blaming Messi shit performances on managers? Roman played under this same managers and still have no problems...was still useful for Argentina where as Messi just can't perform well for them.

    What a masssssssssssively fucked up logic.
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    Post by Trig Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:20 pm

    Xavi + Iniesta = Messi

    Messi without them = Heskey Simples
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    Post by SBSP Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:21 pm

    And0TheGr8 wrote:Xavi + Iniesta = Messi

    Messi without them = Heskey Simples
    I think you need to learn basic maths again. Crazy 2

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    Post by Dr. Ján Ĩtor Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:26 pm

    SBSP wrote:
    And0TheGr8 wrote:Xavi + Iniesta = Messi

    Messi without them = Heskey Messi in Copa America. 225495
    I think you need to learn basic maths again. Messi in Copa America. 634513

    Messi in Copa America. 279869

    messi = xavi+iniesta
    heskey = messi - (xavi+iniesta)
    heskey = messi - messi
    heskey =


    thats right, nobody is equal to heskey Simples
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    Post by Trig Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:26 pm

    SBSP wrote:
    And0TheGr8 wrote:Xavi + Iniesta = Messi

    Messi without them = Heskey Simples
    I think you need to learn basic maths again. Crazy 2

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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:26 pm

    If he can't prove to be world class outside of Barcelona there is no way he is the best player ever.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:27 pm

    XxBradKennedyxX wrote:messi = xavi+iniesta
    heskey = messi - (xavi+iniesta)
    heskey = messi - messi
    heskey =


    thats right, nobody is equal to heskey Simples

    The algebra not worthy
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    Post by SBSP Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:37 pm

    XxBradKennedyxX wrote:
    SBSP wrote:
    And0TheGr8 wrote:Xavi + Iniesta = Messi

    Messi without them = Heskey Messi in Copa America. 225495
    I think you need to learn basic maths again. Messi in Copa America. 634513

    Messi in Copa America. 279869

    messi = xavi+iniesta
    heskey = messi - (xavi+iniesta)
    heskey = messi - messi
    heskey =


    thats right, nobody is equal to heskey Simples
    That's brilliant. rofl
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    Post by SS_1182 Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:57 pm

    SBSP wrote:
    XxBradKennedyxX wrote:
    SBSP wrote:
    And0TheGr8 wrote:Xavi + Iniesta = Messi

    Messi without them = Heskey Messi in Copa America. 225495
    I think you need to learn basic maths again. Messi in Copa America. 634513

    Messi in Copa America. 279869

    messi = xavi+iniesta
    heskey = messi - (xavi+iniesta)
    heskey = messi - messi
    heskey =


    thats right, nobody is equal to heskey Messi in Copa America. 225495
    That's brilliant. Messi in Copa America. 70955


    Messi in Copa America. 70955 Messi in Copa America. 70955 Messi in Copa America. 70955 Messi in Copa America. 70955 Messi in Copa America. 70955 Messi in Copa America. 70955 Messi in Copa America. 70955
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    Post by Mustangt125 Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:05 pm

    How come only he gets blamed when they dont perform though? Yeah he's the best player on the planet, but their whole team is stacked. Where are Lavezzi and Aguero and shit? Tevez probably off crying somewhere looking through towers to Mascherano.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:07 pm

    Mustangt125 wrote:How come only he gets blamed when they dont perform though? Yeah he's the best player on the planet, but their whole team is stacked. Where are Lavezzi and Aguero and shit? Tevez probably off crying somewhere looking through towers to Mascherano.
    Cause they keep giving him the ball and he keeps doing nothing.
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    Post by Mustangt125 Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:09 pm

    Chris wrote:
    Mustangt125 wrote:How come only he gets blamed when they dont perform though? Yeah he's the best player on the planet, but their whole team is stacked. Where are Lavezzi and Aguero and shit? Tevez probably off crying somewhere looking through towers to Mascherano.
    Cause they keep giving him the ball and he keeps doing nothing.

    Did you read the rest of the my post though?

    They don't have to do that, and I doubt they do that at all. They have multiple top class players who can pop in with a goal once in a while, like Tevez Lavezzi Aguero Pastore? For crying out loud, they're fucking stacked.

    Makes me wanna play FIFA theyre so stacked.
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    Post by Jamie Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:14 pm

    Chris wrote:
    Mustangt125 wrote:How come only he gets blamed when they dont perform though? Yeah he's the best player on the planet, but their whole team is stacked. Where are Lavezzi and Aguero and shit? Tevez probably off crying somewhere looking through towers to Mascherano.
    Cause they keep giving him the ball and he keeps doing nothing.

    You haven't watched either Copa games so why are you commenting?
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    Post by SBSP Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:20 pm

    Fine Shagger wrote:
    Chris wrote:
    Mustangt125 wrote:How come only he gets blamed when they dont perform though? Yeah he's the best player on the planet, but their whole team is stacked. Where are Lavezzi and Aguero and shit? Tevez probably off crying somewhere looking through towers to Mascherano.
    Cause they keep giving him the ball and he keeps doing nothing.

    You haven't watched either Copa games so why are you commenting?
    He done goofed.
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    Post by Roloman4 Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:28 pm

    Messi has never been good for Argentina, end of, and I watch a bit more South American football than a lot of people here.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:32 pm

    Haters gonna hate. Messi is the best there is. Everyone is just expecting him to dribble past the whole team and score every game.
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    Post by Guest Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:33 pm

    Roloman4 wrote:Messi has never been good for Argentina, end of, and I watch a bit more South American football than a lot of people here.

    Which makes it even more shocking. I have seen a few of his games with Argentina and he kicked ass in some. Argentina v Portugal comes to mind.
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    Post by Roloman4 Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:33 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:Haters gonna hate. Messi is the best there is. Everyone is just expecting him to dribble past the whole team and score every game.

    I never said he wasn't, he just doesn't do it with Argentina, it's a common phenomenon, players not performing for the national team, or clubs, that is.
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    Post by Mustangt125 Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:34 pm

    ahlycotc wrote:Haters gonna hate. Messi is the best there is. Everyone is just expecting him to dribble past the whole team and score every game.

    My point exactly. It doesnt work like that. Why aren't players like Tevez, Aguero, Lavezzi, Pastore, whoever else the have Milito, why arent they gettin blamed at all?

    Please. Soccer is maybe the ultimate team game.
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    Post by Jamie Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:39 pm

    Mustangt125 wrote:
    ahlycotc wrote:Haters gonna hate. Messi is the best there is. Everyone is just expecting him to dribble past the whole team and score every game.

    My point exactly. It doesnt work like that. Why aren't players like Tevez, Aguero, Lavezzi, Pastore, whoever else the have Milito, why arent they gettin blamed at all?

    Please. Soccer is maybe the ultimate team game.

    Tevez plays terrible out of position on the left, Lavezzi plays terrible on the right, Pastore and Kun don't even play, Messi plays basically as a centre midfielder.

    That is Batista for you, shit manager. Yet it's only Messi's fault.
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    Post by fluffy_kittens Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:42 pm

    some players like Messi are far better for club then for country.

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