Pedro or Luis Suarez?

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

crump wrote:Pedro starts for Barcelona and scored in a champions league final and won the World Cup.
Suarez plays for Liverpool and scored against Sunderland in the PL and got to the semi-finals of the World Cup.

Pedro

What exactly does that prove? Pedro plays for the better team?

Pedro contributes to the better team.

Yes. Which is pretty much what I said. Yet it doesn't establish who is the better player. I could go on to point out that Suarez is better because the players around him weren't as good as what Pedro is used to. But it doesn't work like that.

Pedro makes the team better though hes not a passenger. I'm glad you agree that Pedro is the superior player

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

crump wrote:Pedro starts for Barcelona and scored in a champions league final and won the World Cup.
Suarez plays for Liverpool and scored against Sunderland in the PL and got to the semi-finals of the World Cup.

Pedro

What exactly does that prove? Pedro plays for the better team?

Pedro contributes to the better team.

Yes. Which is pretty much what I said. Yet it doesn't establish who is the better player. I could go on to point out that Suarez is better because the players around him weren't as good as what Pedro is used to. But it doesn't work like that.

Pedro makes the team better though hes not a passenger. I'm glad you agree that Pedro is the superior player

There you go again. I've noticed you do this quite often. Intent to rile me up I suppose.

Suarez makes the team better too. So whatever your point is, it doesn't make sense.

My vote levelled it at 50% each. I voted for Pedro because he is better, slightly, but still better. He may not be as relied upon as Suarez is. Pedro has kept his place in the Barcelona squad and shone, where as Suarez was amazing in the Eredivisie - hardly an accomplishment and was good at Liverpool but hardly showed us he was world class.

These sort of things end in disaster, they've never played in the same league, so you can't make a true comparison, you have to go by stats if anything

Very different players really, Suarez is better on the ball, he's more creative, more flair, Pedro's the better finisher, he makes the better runs and he works twice as hard as Suarez.

In terms of contribution, Suarez was the best attacking player for Liverpool last season but if it wasn't for Pedro, Messi and Villa wouldn't have scored the same amount of goals, he drags defenders away with his constant running and if that doesn't open up space for Messi and co. via defenders tracking his runs then he'll go on to score himself.

Tight call, if I'm honest, it's all down to the position and role you need.

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Jord wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:So as it stands Pedro is leading by 2 votes to prove a lot of the Liverpool fans wrong

Exactly you just want to cause trouble.

Of course its going to cause 'trouble' Liverpool fans don't like being proved wrong I'm being a trollish twat.

Fixed.

Both on par with each other to be fair. Pedro had the better season, but then again he's been surrounded by 10 world class players, compared to Suarez who is in the middle of a rebuilding Liverpool side. Tough choice.

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Jord wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:So as it stands Pedro is leading by 2 votes to prove a lot of the Liverpool fans wrong

Exactly you just want to cause trouble.

Of course its going to cause 'trouble' Liverpool fans don't like being proved wrong I'm being a trollish twat.

Fixed.

Mutant123 wrote:My vote levelled it at 50% each. I voted for Pedro because he is better, slightly, but still better. He may not be as relied upon as Suarez is. Pedro has kept his place in the Barcelona squad and shone, where as Suarez was amazing in the Eredivisie - hardly an accomplishment and was good at Liverpool but hardly showed us he was world class.

What a fucking stupid argument, hardly his fault he played in the Eredivisie, he can only beat whats put in front of him. And how is what he done in the Eredivisie hardly an accomplishment? You're acting like the Eredivisie is a fucking Sunday League. Also, he's done well for Uruguay and proven himself at international level.

works twice as hard as suarez? have you ever watched suarez?

Johnny wrote:

Mutant123 wrote:My vote levelled it at 50% each. I voted for Pedro because he is better, slightly, but still better. He may not be as relied upon as Suarez is. Pedro has kept his place in the Barcelona squad and shone, where as Suarez was amazing in the Eredivisie - hardly an accomplishment and was good at Liverpool but hardly showed us he was world class.

What a fucking stupid argument, hardly his fault he played in the Eredivisie, he can only beat whats put in front of him. And how is what he done in the Eredivisie hardly an accomplishment? You're acting like the Eredivisie is a fucking Sunday League. Also, he's done well for Uruguay and proven himself at international level.

Yes it is he chose to move there

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Jord wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:So as it stands Pedro is leading by 2 votes to prove a lot of the Liverpool fans wrong

Exactly you just want to cause trouble.

Of course its going to cause 'trouble' Liverpool fans don't like being proved wrong I'm being a trollish twat.

Fixed.

Your whole act in this thread has been an embarrassment right from the opening.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

What exactly does that prove? Pedro plays for the better team?

Pedro contributes to the better team.

Yes. Which is pretty much what I said. Yet it doesn't establish who is the better player. I could go on to point out that Suarez is better because the players around him weren't as good as what Pedro is used to. But it doesn't work like that.

Pedro makes the team better though hes not a passenger. I'm glad you agree that Pedro is the superior player

There you go again. I've noticed you do this quite often. Intent to rile me up I suppose.

Suarez makes the team better too. So whatever your point is, it doesn't make sense.

No intent to rile you up, i think you should just word your posts more carefully to prevent them from being misinterpreted.

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Jord wrote:Exactly you just want to cause trouble.

Of course its going to cause 'trouble' Liverpool fans don't like being proved wrong I'm being a trollish twat.

Fixed.

Your whole act in this thread has been an embarrassment right from the opening.

I think your just butthurt over something anything i need to know?

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:Of course its going to cause 'trouble' Liverpool fans don't like being proved wrong I'm being a trollish twat.

Fixed.

Your whole act in this thread has been an embarrassment right from the opening.

I think your just butthurt over something anything i need to know?

There's a difference between thinking you are acting like a condescending twat and being butthurt.

btw-I'm not a Scouser and I would take Pedro over Suarez. So find a new rationalization.

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Johnny wrote:

Mutant123 wrote:My vote levelled it at 50% each. I voted for Pedro because he is better, slightly, but still better. He may not be as relied upon as Suarez is. Pedro has kept his place in the Barcelona squad and shone, where as Suarez was amazing in the Eredivisie - hardly an accomplishment and was good at Liverpool but hardly showed us he was world class.

What a fucking stupid argument, hardly his fault he played in the Eredivisie, he can only beat whats put in front of him. And how is what he done in the Eredivisie hardly an accomplishment? You're acting like the Eredivisie is a fucking Sunday League. Also, he's done well for Uruguay and proven himself at international level.

Yes it is he chose to move there

Well Pedro is lucky because he came through the Barcelona ranks so was already at the best team in the world, whereas Suarez was playing for a club in Uruguay and by staying there he wouldn't have really made his name so he obviously when he got the chance to move to Europe he took it. My point still stands that he can only beat what's put in front of him. How do you know he wouldn't have a similar impact if he had moved to a Spanish or English side from Uruguay?

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Fixed.

Your whole act in this thread has been an embarrassment right from the opening.

I think your just butthurt over something anything i need to know?

There's a difference between thinking you are acting like a condescending twat and being butthurt.

btw-I'm not a Scouser and I would take Pedro over Suarez. So find a new rationalization.

I'm not referring to this thread clever one Please stop trolling the thread at least Liverpool fans are discussing this civilized the same cannot be said for you

Suarez.

Johnny wrote: What a fucking stupid argument, hardly his fault he plays in the Eredivisie, he can only beat whats put in front of him. And how is what he done in the Eredivisie hardly an accomplishment? You're acting like the Eredivisie is a fucking Sunday League. Also, he's done well for Uruguay and proven himself at international level.

I wasn't saying it was a bad league but it is hardly the same calibre as La Liga or the Premiership. He is good. I am not taking that away from him. I am saying Pedro is better. Not hugely. But better. I understand he doesn't choose the team he plays for - to an extent he does. I would prefer Pedro to him however.

Mutant123 wrote:

Johnny wrote: What a fucking stupid argument, hardly his fault he plays in the Eredivisie, he can only beat whats put in front of him. And how is what he done in the Eredivisie hardly an accomplishment? You're acting like the Eredivisie is a fucking Sunday League. Also, he's done well for Uruguay and proven himself at international level.

I wasn't saying it was a bad league but it is hardly the same calibre as La Liga or the Premiership. He is good. I am not taking that away from him. I am saying Pedro is better. Not hugely. But better. I understand he doesn't choose the team he plays for - to an extent he does. I would prefer Pedro to him however.

Yeah, sorry sort of worded it wrong.

Fair enough if you would prefer Pedro, it's all a matter of opinion after all. Of course the Eredivisie is nowhere near the calibre of La Liga or PL but how can we know that Suarez would not have had a similar impact in one of those leagues? But I guess we'll find out next season how much impact Suarez can make in a top league.

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Your whole act in this thread has been an embarrassment right from the opening.

I think your just butthurt over something anything i need to know?

There's a difference between thinking you are acting like a condescending twat and being butthurt.

btw-I'm not a Scouser and I would take Pedro over Suarez. So find a new rationalization.

I'm not referring to this thread clever one Please stop trolling the thread at least Liverpool fans are discussing this civilized the same cannot be said for you

There have never been any other incidents that I can think of between so. So what else in the blue hell would you would be talking about, "clever one." (brilliant smack btw. How'd you come up with that? )
Right. It was your intention to discuss this in a civilized manner when you declared yourself supremely intelligent right out of the gate and basically preempted the whole discussion. Again, just because somebody recognizes your insufferable asaninity doesn't mean they are butthurt.

Johnny wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Johnny wrote:

Mutant123 wrote:My vote levelled it at 50% each. I voted for Pedro because he is better, slightly, but still better. He may not be as relied upon as Suarez is. Pedro has kept his place in the Barcelona squad and shone, where as Suarez was amazing in the Eredivisie - hardly an accomplishment and was good at Liverpool but hardly showed us he was world class.

What a fucking stupid argument, hardly his fault he played in the Eredivisie, he can only beat whats put in front of him. And how is what he done in the Eredivisie hardly an accomplishment? You're acting like the Eredivisie is a fucking Sunday League. Also, he's done well for Uruguay and proven himself at international level.

Yes it is he chose to move there

Well Pedro is lucky because he came through the Barcelona ranks so was already at the best team in the world, whereas Suarez was playing for a club in Uruguay and by staying there he wouldn't have really made his name so he obviously when he got the chance to move to Europe he took it. My point still stands that he can only beat what's put in front of him. How do you know he wouldn't have a similar impact if he had moved to a Spanish or English side from Uruguay?

Its unfortunate for Suarez then, but Pedro is the better player regardless of backgrounds

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Your whole act in this thread has been an embarrassment right from the opening.

I think your just butthurt over something anything i need to know?

There's a difference between thinking you are acting like a condescending twat and being butthurt.

btw-I'm not a Scouser and I would take Pedro over Suarez. So find a new rationalization.

I'm not referring to this thread clever one Please stop trolling the thread at least Liverpool fans are discussing this civilized the same cannot be said for you

What the fuck has he done?

Johnny wrote: Yeah, sorry sort of worded it wrong.

Fair enough if you would prefer Pedro, it's all a matter of opinion after all. Of course the Eredivisie is nowhere near the calibre of La Liga or PL but how can we know that Suarez would not have had a similar impact in one of those leagues? But I guess we'll find out next season how much impact Suarez can make in a top league.

Well he did well for Liverpool last half season so yeah.

The Bat-Man wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

menalawyerguy wrote:

Your whole act in this thread has been an embarrassment right from the opening.

I think your just butthurt over something anything i need to know?

There's a difference between thinking you are acting like a condescending twat and being butthurt.

btw-I'm not a Scouser and I would take Pedro over Suarez. So find a new rationalization.

I'm not referring to this thread clever one Please stop trolling the thread at least Liverpool fans are discussing this civilized the same cannot be said for you

What the fuck has he done?

Attempting to derail the thread for selfish reasons i would like to get back on track and on topic now

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Johnny wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Johnny wrote:

Mutant123 wrote:My vote levelled it at 50% each. I voted for Pedro because he is better, slightly, but still better. He may not be as relied upon as Suarez is. Pedro has kept his place in the Barcelona squad and shone, where as Suarez was amazing in the Eredivisie - hardly an accomplishment and was good at Liverpool but hardly showed us he was world class.

What a fucking stupid argument, hardly his fault he played in the Eredivisie, he can only beat whats put in front of him. And how is what he done in the Eredivisie hardly an accomplishment? You're acting like the Eredivisie is a fucking Sunday League. Also, he's done well for Uruguay and proven himself at international level.

Yes it is he chose to move there

Well Pedro is lucky because he came through the Barcelona ranks so was already at the best team in the world, whereas Suarez was playing for a club in Uruguay and by staying there he wouldn't have really made his name so he obviously when he got the chance to move to Europe he took it. My point still stands that he can only beat what's put in front of him. How do you know he wouldn't have a similar impact if he had moved to a Spanish or English side from Uruguay?

Its unfortunate for Suarez then, but Pedro is the better player regardless of backgrounds

Fair enough if that's your opinion, although I'd personally prefer Suarez.

Mutant123 wrote:

Johnny wrote: Yeah, sorry sort of worded it wrong.

Fair enough if you would prefer Pedro, it's all a matter of opinion after all. Of course the Eredivisie is nowhere near the calibre of La Liga or PL but how can we know that Suarez would not have had a similar impact in one of those leagues? But I guess we'll find out next season how much impact Suarez can make in a top league.

Well he did well for Liverpool last half season so yeah.

Yeah, I said next season 'cause I think he'll be able to play even better with a stable squad/manager and new signings added into it. I think we'll be able to judge this better after Suarez has played a full season in a top league.

Johnny wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Johnny wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

Johnny wrote:
What a fucking stupid argument, hardly his fault he played in the Eredivisie, he can only beat whats put in front of him. And how is what he done in the Eredivisie hardly an accomplishment? You're acting like the Eredivisie is a fucking Sunday League. Also, he's done well for Uruguay and proven himself at international level.

Yes it is he chose to move there

Well Pedro is lucky because he came through the Barcelona ranks so was already at the best team in the world, whereas Suarez was playing for a club in Uruguay and by staying there he wouldn't have really made his name so he obviously when he got the chance to move to Europe he took it. My point still stands that he can only beat what's put in front of him. How do you know he wouldn't have a similar impact if he had moved to a Spanish or English side from Uruguay?

Its unfortunate for Suarez then, but Pedro is the better player regardless of backgrounds

Fair enough if that's your opinion, although I'd personally prefer Suarez.

Mutant123 wrote:

Johnny wrote: Yeah, sorry sort of worded it wrong.

Fair enough if you would prefer Pedro, it's all a matter of opinion after all. Of course the Eredivisie is nowhere near the calibre of La Liga or PL but how can we know that Suarez would not have had a similar impact in one of those leagues? But I guess we'll find out next season how much impact Suarez can make in a top league.

Well he did well for Liverpool last half season so yeah.

Yeah, I said next season 'cause I think he'll be able to play even better with a stable squad/manager and new signings added into it. I think we'll be able to judge this better after Suarez has played a full season in a top league.

I understood your post.
This is so embarrassing but I only just realised I was quoting wrong. The quote button for your post is at the bottom so I was pressing it at the top, like EA, and I had to hand write the quote stuff.

I can't believe Liverpool fans are still being so petty and reacting to these threads,

luke. wrote:I can't believe Liverpool fans are still being so petty and reacting to these threads,

I can't believe gingers have souls.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

luke. wrote:I can't believe Liverpool fans are still being so petty and reacting to these threads,

I can't believe gingers have souls.

That's because you're a retard.