Pedro or Luis Suarez?

Fine Shagger wrote:Criticise Pedro as a player all you want chiboy but you are one hell of a moron if you think he isn't clinical. as. fuck.

It's debatable if he's 2nd best or not but it's certainly not hard to understand why I would think it.

Marvin wrote:Typical Jamie and overrating Barca players.

He's no better than Klasnic.

arsenalap11 wrote:I really want to know what van Persies conversion rate is but can't find it

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
Pedro is not the 2nd best finisher in the world...that's just a biased statement because if you watched other leagues you will see players that can finish more clinical than Pedro. Most top players score left foot, right foot, header, big game, small game don't see what makes Pedro special to be considered 2nd over many players in the world. Maybe it's because he plays for Barca but I'm sure you are the only one that can say something like this.

You didn't answer me, do you watch Barcelona much?

And if you disagree, who is a better finisher than Pedro?

Pedro 44 goals in 143 shots = 30.7%
Messi 95 goals in 438 shots = 21.7%
Ronaldo 86 goals in 566 shots = 15.2%
Eto'o 49 goals in 280 shots = 17.5%
Villa 46 goals in 333 shots = 13.8%

BEFORE YOU SAY IT: I'm not saying these stats PROVE anything. They do however provide an insight that there are at least some merits into rating Pedro as one of the worlds most clinical finishers.

He takes his chances, can't deny it. It's a fact.

Yes, I watch Barcelona much...

I'm not one those (luke) who totally dislike stats..but look at how many shots those players you listed compared to Pedro's if Pedro retained to accuracy with a higher number of shots then it would be more acceptable.

There many many better finishers than Pedro, Zlatan, Miccoli, Di Natale, Eto'o, Villa..just a few are deadly finishers...might not have percentage but when they are infront of goal or wherever they are shooting they usually cause trouble.

I'm not saying his not a good finisher, most pro players if they get a chance in front of goal they will score it. He's great but not the best or 2nd best.

Can't say about Miccoli or Zlatan but having watched Eto'o and Villa extensively there is not a fucking chance they are more clinical than Pedro.

And given their Barcelona links you can't use that shitty argument against me.

But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Criticise Pedro as a player all you want chiboy but you are one hell of a moron if you think he isn't clinical. as. fuck.

It's debatable if he's 2nd best or not but it's certainly not hard to understand why I would think it.

See, this is where you starting saying things I never said.

I don't criticize Pedro as a player or anything...not even saying he's not clinical...

But like you said on the second part..it's debatable which is what I'm doing...I understand why you think so, you backed you opinion up unlike that stupid idiot Fillipo who has no idea what he's talking about.

Marvin wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:I really want to know what van Persies conversion rate is but can't find it

Surprised you don't already know it off by heart, some fanboy you are.

arsenalap11 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

You didn't answer me, do you watch Barcelona much?

And if you disagree, who is a better finisher than Pedro?

Pedro 44 goals in 143 shots = 30.7%
Messi 95 goals in 438 shots = 21.7%
Ronaldo 86 goals in 566 shots = 15.2%
Eto'o 49 goals in 280 shots = 17.5%
Villa 46 goals in 333 shots = 13.8%

BEFORE YOU SAY IT: I'm not saying these stats PROVE anything. They do however provide an insight that there are at least some merits into rating Pedro as one of the worlds most clinical finishers.

He takes his chances, can't deny it. It's a fact.

Yes, I watch Barcelona much...

I'm not one those (luke) who totally dislike stats..but look at how many shots those players you listed compared to Pedro's if Pedro retained to accuracy with a higher number of shots then it would be more acceptable.

There many many better finishers than Pedro, Zlatan, Miccoli, Di Natale, Eto'o, Villa..just a few are deadly finishers...might not have percentage but when they are infront of goal or wherever they are shooting they usually cause trouble.

I'm not saying his not a good finisher, most pro players if they get a chance in front of goal they will score it. He's great but not the best or 2nd best.

Can't say about Miccoli or Zlatan but having watched Eto'o and Villa extensively there is not a fucking chance they are more clinical than Pedro.

And given their Barcelona links you can't use that shitty argument against me.

But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

Didn't he just have an amazing season?

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:Criticise Pedro as a player all you want chiboy but you are one hell of a moron if you think he isn't clinical. as. fuck.

It's debatable if he's 2nd best or not but it's certainly not hard to understand why I would think it.

See, this is where you starting saying things I never said.

I don't criticize Pedro as a player or anything...not even saying he's not clinical...

But like you said on the second part..it's debatable which is what I'm doing...I understand why you think so, you backed you opinion up unlike that stupid idiot Fillipo who has no idea what he's talking about.

crump wrote:Pedro starts for Barcelona and scored in a champions league final and won the World Cup.
Suarez plays for Liverpool and scored against Sunderland in the PL and got to the semi-finals of the World Cup.

Pedro

chiboygeorge wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
Yes, I watch Barcelona much...

I'm not one those (luke) who totally dislike stats..but look at how many shots those players you listed compared to Pedro's if Pedro retained to accuracy with a higher number of shots then it would be more acceptable.

There many many better finishers than Pedro, Zlatan, Miccoli, Di Natale, Eto'o, Villa..just a few are deadly finishers...might not have percentage but when they are infront of goal or wherever they are shooting they usually cause trouble.

I'm not saying his not a good finisher, most pro players if they get a chance in front of goal they will score it. He's great but not the best or 2nd best.

Can't say about Miccoli or Zlatan but having watched Eto'o and Villa extensively there is not a fucking chance they are more clinical than Pedro.

And given their Barcelona links you can't use that shitty argument against me.

But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

Didn't he just have an amazing season?

Amazing season my ass, he scored goals but overall Eto'o wasn't Eto'o of 2 seasons before. Amazing season would be in 09/10 season.

chiboygeorge wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
Yes, I watch Barcelona much...

I'm not one those (luke) who totally dislike stats..but look at how many shots those players you listed compared to Pedro's if Pedro retained to accuracy with a higher number of shots then it would be more acceptable.

There many many better finishers than Pedro, Zlatan, Miccoli, Di Natale, Eto'o, Villa..just a few are deadly finishers...might not have percentage but when they are infront of goal or wherever they are shooting they usually cause trouble.

I'm not saying his not a good finisher, most pro players if they get a chance in front of goal they will score it. He's great but not the best or 2nd best.

Can't say about Miccoli or Zlatan but having watched Eto'o and Villa extensively there is not a fucking chance they are more clinical than Pedro.

And given their Barcelona links you can't use that shitty argument against me.

But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

Didn't he just have an amazing season?

Amazing season my ass, he scored goals but overall Eto'o wasn't Eto'o of 2 seasons before. Amazing season would be in 09/10 season.

chiboygeorge wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
Yes, I watch Barcelona much...

I'm not one those (luke) who totally dislike stats..but look at how many shots those players you listed compared to Pedro's if Pedro retained to accuracy with a higher number of shots then it would be more acceptable.

There many many better finishers than Pedro, Zlatan, Miccoli, Di Natale, Eto'o, Villa..just a few are deadly finishers...might not have percentage but when they are infront of goal or wherever they are shooting they usually cause trouble.

I'm not saying his not a good finisher, most pro players if they get a chance in front of goal they will score it. He's great but not the best or 2nd best.

Can't say about Miccoli or Zlatan but having watched Eto'o and Villa extensively there is not a fucking chance they are more clinical than Pedro.

And given their Barcelona links you can't use that shitty argument against me.

But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

Didn't he just have an amazing season?

Amazing season my ass, he scored goals but overall Eto'o wasn't Eto'o of 2 seasons before. Amazing season would be in 09/10 season.

Mutant123 wrote:

crump wrote:Pedro starts for Barcelona and scored in a champions league final and won the World Cup.
Suarez plays for Liverpool and scored against Sunderland in the PL and got to the semi-finals of the World Cup.

Pedro

Spain didn't need Pedro. Uruguay did, without Suarez they wouldn't have made the semi-final end of.

arsenalap11 wrote:

Marvin wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:I really want to know what van Persies conversion rate is but can't find it

Surprised you don't already know it off by heart, some fanboy you are.

I know, I should do

Don't think he'll be near Pedro or anything, just want to know.

Fine Shagger wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

Marvin wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:I really want to know what van Persies conversion rate is but can't find it

Surprised you don't already know it off by heart, some fanboy you are.

I know, I should do

Don't think he'll be near Pedro or anything, just want to know.

32 goals in 205 shots = 15.6%

polska. wrote:Suarez is a much better fit for Arsenal.

Plus Arsenal NEEDS Suarez' winning mentality. His mentality alone is enough to make him worth getting at Arsenal. I guarantee you if we bought him in January we would have won the league and not have flopped and bottled so many matches.

SBSP wrote:

Mutant123 wrote:

crump wrote:Pedro starts for Barcelona and scored in a champions league final and won the World Cup.
Suarez plays for Liverpool and scored against Sunderland in the PL and got to the semi-finals of the World Cup.

Pedro

Spain didn't need Pedro. Uruguay did, without Suarez they wouldn't have made the semi-final end of.

Still second fiddle to Forlan.

Pedro is much better in a team, but Suarez is much better as the key man.

Mutant123 wrote:

SBSP wrote:

Mutant123 wrote:

crump wrote:Pedro starts for Barcelona and scored in a champions league final and won the World Cup.
Suarez plays for Liverpool and scored against Sunderland in the PL and got to the semi-finals of the World Cup.

Pedro

Spain didn't need Pedro. Uruguay did, without Suarez they wouldn't have made the semi-final end of.

Still second fiddle to Forlan.

Pedro is much better in a team, but Suarez is much better as the key man.

Who would have saved the Ghana goal? Suarez got them to the semi-final with his sublime goal keeping is what I meant. Forlan was better, just not at keeping.

polska. wrote:

Chris wrote:I would take either at Arsenal, hard to decide.

Your nuts then.

arsenalap11 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

Can't say about Miccoli or Zlatan but having watched Eto'o and Villa extensively there is not a fucking chance they are more clinical than Pedro.

And given their Barcelona links you can't use that shitty argument against me.

But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

Didn't he just have an amazing season?

Amazing season my ass, he scored goals but overall Eto'o wasn't Eto'o of 2 seasons before. Amazing season would be in 09/10 season.

09/10 was an amazing season for Inter as a whole. 10/11 was an amazing individual season for Eto'o.

48 goals/assists in 50 games is pretty amazing..

Not saying it was his best ever, but it was pretty good..

SBSP wrote:

Mutant123 wrote:

SBSP wrote:

Mutant123 wrote:

crump wrote:Pedro starts for Barcelona and scored in a champions league final and won the World Cup.
Suarez plays for Liverpool and scored against Sunderland in the PL and got to the semi-finals of the World Cup.

Pedro

Spain didn't need Pedro. Uruguay did, without Suarez they wouldn't have made the semi-final end of.

Still second fiddle to Forlan.

Pedro is much better in a team, but Suarez is much better as the key man.

Who would have saved the Ghana goal? Suarez got them to the semi-final with his sublime goal keeping is what I meant. Forlan was better, just not at keeping.

Well played.

chiboygeorge wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

Didn't he just have an amazing season?

Amazing season my ass, he scored goals but overall Eto'o wasn't Eto'o of 2 seasons before. Amazing season would be in 09/10 season.

09/10 was an amazing season for Inter as a whole. 10/11 was an amazing individual season for Eto'o.

48 goals/assists in 50 games is pretty amazing..

Not saying it was his best ever, but it was pretty good..

What was his stats in 09/10?

What I'm saying is overall Eto'o couldn't connect as good as he did 2 seasons before..he was missing silly chances this season and his overall game wasn't there even though he was still scoring goals but overall performances wasn't great.

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

Can't say about Miccoli or Zlatan but having watched Eto'o and Villa extensively there is not a fucking chance they are more clinical than Pedro.

And given their Barcelona links you can't use that shitty argument against me.

But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

Didn't he just have an amazing season?

Amazing season my ass, he scored goals but overall Eto'o wasn't Eto'o of 2 seasons before. Amazing season would be in 09/10 season.

His first season where he was on the Wing at Inter, 12 goals in 32.

You sure?

chiboygeorge wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

Didn't he just have an amazing season?

Amazing season my ass, he scored goals but overall Eto'o wasn't Eto'o of 2 seasons before. Amazing season would be in 09/10 season.

His first season where he was on the Wing at Inter, 12 goals in 32.

You sure?

Goals wasn't everything for Eto'o and Inter than season...the way him and Milito played was amazing. Eto'o was much more fantastic and lively 2 seasons before compared to last season. Same thing happened with Milito. Shit last season but amazing 2 seasons before.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

Didn't he just have an amazing season?

Amazing season my ass, he scored goals but overall Eto'o wasn't Eto'o of 2 seasons before. Amazing season would be in 09/10 season.

His first season where he was on the Wing at Inter, 12 goals in 32.

You sure?

Goals wasn't everything for Eto'o and Inter than season...the way him and Milito played was amazing. Eto'o was much more fantastic and lively 2 seasons before compared to last season. Same thing happened with Milito. Shit last season but amazing 2 seasons before.

Fonseca wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

grenade187 wrote:The Liverpool/PL bias on here is ridiculous .

But it's there season for the 15th time

*Their.

Well done for spotting the mistake, add it to your empty list

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

arsenalap11 wrote:

Didn't he just have an amazing season?

Amazing season my ass, he scored goals but overall Eto'o wasn't Eto'o of 2 seasons before. Amazing season would be in 09/10 season.

His first season where he was on the Wing at Inter, 12 goals in 32.

You sure?

Goals wasn't everything for Eto'o and Inter than season...the way him and Milito played was amazing. Eto'o was much more fantastic and lively 2 seasons before compared to last season. Same thing happened with Milito. Shit last season but amazing 2 seasons before.

Was you referring to that season or 08/09 at Barca

Mutant123 wrote:

crump wrote:Pedro starts for Barcelona and scored in a champions league final and won the World Cup.
Suarez plays for Liverpool and scored against Sunderland in the PL and got to the semi-finals of the World Cup.

Pedro

Spain didn't need Pedro. Uruguay did, without Suarez they wouldn't have made the semi-final end of.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
Amazing season my ass, he scored goals but overall Eto'o wasn't Eto'o of 2 seasons before. Amazing season would be in 09/10 season.

His first season where he was on the Wing at Inter, 12 goals in 32.

You sure?

Goals wasn't everything for Eto'o and Inter than season...the way him and Milito played was amazing. Eto'o was much more fantastic and lively 2 seasons before compared to last season. Same thing happened with Milito. Shit last season but amazing 2 seasons before.

Was you referring to that season or 08/09 at Barca

2 season ago - 09/10
last season - 10/11