Pedro or Luis Suarez?

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
It also says Pedro has a better dribble completion than Ronaldo, Pedro is automatically a better dribbler than Ronaldo.
Also Pedro converted more chances than Messi and Ronaldo...so he's not just the second best...but the best finisher in the world.

Pedro had same passing completion with Iniesta, him and Andres are level on passing.

No.

Well that's exactly what you were suggesting.

I'm not. I'm using those to say it's not as ridiculous as you think.

How is it ridiculous to say Pedro is the 2nd best finisher in the world, do you watch Barcelona? He is lethal, scores a high amount of his chances no matter what foot it is on. Big game, small game...doesn't matter to him.

Pedro is not the 2nd best finisher in the world...that's just a biased statement because if you watched other leagues you will see players that can finish more clinical than Pedro. Most top players score left foot, right foot, header, big game, small game don't see what makes Pedro special to be considered 2nd over many players in the world. Maybe it's because he plays for Barca but I'm sure you are the only one that can say something like this.

You didn't answer me, do you watch Barcelona much?

And if you disagree, who is a better finisher than Pedro?

Pedro 44 goals in 143 shots = 30.7%
Messi 95 goals in 438 shots = 21.7%
Ronaldo 86 goals in 566 shots = 15.2%
Eto'o 49 goals in 280 shots = 17.5%
Villa 46 goals in 333 shots = 13.8%

BEFORE YOU SAY IT: I'm not saying these stats PROVE anything. They do however provide an insight that there are at least some merits into rating Pedro as one of the worlds most clinical finishers.

He takes his chances, can't deny it. It's a fact.

What does that have to do with Pedro or Suarez?

Jamie was saying how good Pedro's finishing is, then it tailed off a bit.

Ronaldo took over 550 shots

Jay wrote:Jamie was saying how good Pedro's finishing is, then it tailed off a bit.

Ronaldo took over 550 shots

Those stats are club only for the last 2 seasons by the way, if you were wondering.

Jay wrote:Jamie was saying how good Pedro's finishing is, then it tailed off a bit.

Ronaldo took over 550 shots

He'll take a shot from anywhere though to be fair.

Jay wrote:Jamie was saying how good Pedro's finishing is, then it tailed off a bit.

Ronaldo took over 550 shots

300 of them were free kicks

ayvee1 wrote:

Jay wrote:Jamie was saying how good Pedro's finishing is, then it tailed off a bit.

Ronaldo took over 550 shots

He'll take a shot from anywhere though to be fair.

This.

ayvee1 wrote:

Jay wrote:Jamie was saying how good Pedro's finishing is, then it tailed off a bit.

Ronaldo took over 550 shots

He'll take a shot from anywhere though to be fair.

Yeah, that's the main downside to shot conversion stats. Don't consider range which works against Ronaldo(although not considering whether they are penalties works in his favour)

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

No.

Well that's exactly what you were suggesting.

I'm not. I'm using those to say it's not as ridiculous as you think.

How is it ridiculous to say Pedro is the 2nd best finisher in the world, do you watch Barcelona? He is lethal, scores a high amount of his chances no matter what foot it is on. Big game, small game...doesn't matter to him.

Pedro is not the 2nd best finisher in the world...that's just a biased statement because if you watched other leagues you will see players that can finish more clinical than Pedro. Most top players score left foot, right foot, header, big game, small game don't see what makes Pedro special to be considered 2nd over many players in the world. Maybe it's because he plays for Barca but I'm sure you are the only one that can say something like this.

You didn't answer me, do you watch Barcelona much?

And if you disagree, who is a better finisher than Pedro?

Pedro 44 goals in 143 shots = 30.7%
Messi 95 goals in 438 shots = 21.7%
Ronaldo 86 goals in 566 shots = 15.2%
Eto'o 49 goals in 280 shots = 17.5%
Villa 46 goals in 333 shots = 13.8%

BEFORE YOU SAY IT: I'm not saying these stats PROVE anything. They do however provide an insight that there are at least some merits into rating Pedro as one of the worlds most clinical finishers.

He takes his chances, can't deny it. It's a fact.

Yes, I watch Barcelona much...

I'm not one those (luke) who totally dislike stats..but look at how many shots those players you listed compared to Pedro's if Pedro retained to accuracy with a higher number of shots then it would be more acceptable.

There many many better finishers than Pedro, Zlatan, Miccoli, Di Natale, Eto'o, Villa..just a few are deadly finishers...might not have percentage but when they are infront of goal or wherever they are shooting they usually cause trouble.

I'm not saying his not a good finisher, most pro players if they get a chance in front of goal they will score it. He's great but not the best or 2nd best.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
Well that's exactly what you were suggesting.

I'm not. I'm using those to say it's not as ridiculous as you think.

How is it ridiculous to say Pedro is the 2nd best finisher in the world, do you watch Barcelona? He is lethal, scores a high amount of his chances no matter what foot it is on. Big game, small game...doesn't matter to him.

Pedro is not the 2nd best finisher in the world...that's just a biased statement because if you watched other leagues you will see players that can finish more clinical than Pedro. Most top players score left foot, right foot, header, big game, small game don't see what makes Pedro special to be considered 2nd over many players in the world. Maybe it's because he plays for Barca but I'm sure you are the only one that can say something like this.

You didn't answer me, do you watch Barcelona much?

And if you disagree, who is a better finisher than Pedro?

Pedro 44 goals in 143 shots = 30.7%
Messi 95 goals in 438 shots = 21.7%
Ronaldo 86 goals in 566 shots = 15.2%
Eto'o 49 goals in 280 shots = 17.5%
Villa 46 goals in 333 shots = 13.8%

BEFORE YOU SAY IT: I'm not saying these stats PROVE anything. They do however provide an insight that there are at least some merits into rating Pedro as one of the worlds most clinical finishers.

He takes his chances, can't deny it. It's a fact.

Yes, I watch Barcelona much...

I'm not one those (luke) who totally dislike stats..but look at how many shots those players you listed compared to Pedro's if Pedro retained to accuracy with a higher number of shots then it would be more acceptable.

There many many better finishers than Pedro, Zlatan, Miccoli, Di Natale, Eto'o, Villa..just a few are deadly finishers...might not have percentage but when they are infront of goal or wherever they are shooting they usually cause trouble.

I'm not saying his not a good finisher, most pro players if they get a chance in front of goal they will score it. He's great but not the best or 2nd best.

Can't say about Miccoli or Zlatan but having watched Eto'o and Villa extensively there is not a fucking chance they are more clinical than Pedro.

And given their Barcelona links you can't use that shitty argument against me.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Filippo Inzaghi wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
Pedro is not the 2nd best finisher in the world...that's just a biased statement because if you watched other leagues you will see players that can finish more clinical than Pedro. Most top players score left foot, right foot, header, big game, small game don't see what makes Pedro special to be considered 2nd over many players in the world. Maybe it's because he plays for Barca but I'm sure you are the only one that can say something like this.

Or you just talk shit and object to every player who is not Brazilian

This idiot again who thinks Gasperini made Milito what he is today.

This is a talk between me and Thiago, if you have nothing useful to contribute gtfo.

I stand by that, Gasperini rescued him. Anyway Pastore still starting every game for Argentina?

Haha Gasperini rescued Milito? you are so clueless. Milito was on rise to becoming the best during his seasons in Zaragoza. Also, Pastore does start when games he's called up expect for game against Portugal.

I'd say Eto'o is more clinical that Pedro. Zlatan and Villa no.

SBSP wrote:I'd say Eto'o is more clinical that Pedro. Zlatan and Villa no.

Not unless he's improved drastically since he left Barcelona.

He was very patchy...dynamite at times but often he would scuff stacks of stances.

(I'm talking compared to Pedro, compared to most he's great)

Where'd you get those shooting stats from?

ESPN.

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

I'm not. I'm using those to say it's not as ridiculous as you think.

How is it ridiculous to say Pedro is the 2nd best finisher in the world, do you watch Barcelona? He is lethal, scores a high amount of his chances no matter what foot it is on. Big game, small game...doesn't matter to him.

Pedro is not the 2nd best finisher in the world...that's just a biased statement because if you watched other leagues you will see players that can finish more clinical than Pedro. Most top players score left foot, right foot, header, big game, small game don't see what makes Pedro special to be considered 2nd over many players in the world. Maybe it's because he plays for Barca but I'm sure you are the only one that can say something like this.

You didn't answer me, do you watch Barcelona much?

And if you disagree, who is a better finisher than Pedro?

Pedro 44 goals in 143 shots = 30.7%
Messi 95 goals in 438 shots = 21.7%
Ronaldo 86 goals in 566 shots = 15.2%
Eto'o 49 goals in 280 shots = 17.5%
Villa 46 goals in 333 shots = 13.8%

BEFORE YOU SAY IT: I'm not saying these stats PROVE anything. They do however provide an insight that there are at least some merits into rating Pedro as one of the worlds most clinical finishers.

He takes his chances, can't deny it. It's a fact.

Yes, I watch Barcelona much...

I'm not one those (luke) who totally dislike stats..but look at how many shots those players you listed compared to Pedro's if Pedro retained to accuracy with a higher number of shots then it would be more acceptable.

There many many better finishers than Pedro, Zlatan, Miccoli, Di Natale, Eto'o, Villa..just a few are deadly finishers...might not have percentage but when they are infront of goal or wherever they are shooting they usually cause trouble.

I'm not saying his not a good finisher, most pro players if they get a chance in front of goal they will score it. He's great but not the best or 2nd best.

Can't say about Miccoli or Zlatan but having watched Eto'o and Villa extensively there is not a fucking chance they are more clinical than Pedro.

And given their Barcelona links you can't use that shitty argument against me.

But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

No.

Well that's exactly what you were suggesting.

I'm not. I'm using those to say it's not as ridiculous as you think.

How is it ridiculous to say Pedro is the 2nd best finisher in the world, do you watch Barcelona? He is lethal, scores a high amount of his chances no matter what foot it is on. Big game, small game...doesn't matter to him.

Pedro is not the 2nd best finisher in the world...that's just a biased statement because if you watched other leagues you will see players that can finish more clinical than Pedro. Most top players score left foot, right foot, header, big game, small game don't see what makes Pedro special to be considered 2nd over many players in the world. Maybe it's because he plays for Barca but I'm sure you are the only one that can say something like this.

You didn't answer me, do you watch Barcelona much?

And if you disagree, who is a better finisher than Pedro?

Pedro 44 goals in 143 shots = 30.7%
Messi 95 goals in 438 shots = 21.7%
Ronaldo 86 goals in 566 shots = 15.2%
Eto'o 49 goals in 280 shots = 17.5%
Villa 46 goals in 333 shots = 13.8%

BEFORE YOU SAY IT: I'm not saying these stats PROVE anything. They do however provide an insight that there are at least some merits into rating Pedro as one of the worlds most clinical finishers.

He takes his chances, can't deny it. It's a fact.

finishing for me means close to the net. Some of those other players took alot more long shots then pedro and that throws off their percentage

Where's Yarnbury? There is some gold in this thread for them animation videos.

Criticise Pedro as a player all you want chiboy but you are one hell of a moron if you think he isn't clinical. as. fuck.

It's debatable if he's 2nd best or not but it's certainly not hard to understand why I would think it.

Fine Shagger wrote:

SBSP wrote:I'd say Eto'o is more clinical that Pedro. Zlatan and Villa no.

Not unless he's improved drastically since he left Barcelona.

He was very patchy...dynamite at times but often he would scuff stacks of stances.

(I'm talking compared to Pedro, compared to most he's great)

Just saying, Eto'o has been one of the deadliest in Serie A. Especially in a league like Serie A he has to be considered an amazing finisher.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
Pedro is not the 2nd best finisher in the world...that's just a biased statement because if you watched other leagues you will see players that can finish more clinical than Pedro. Most top players score left foot, right foot, header, big game, small game don't see what makes Pedro special to be considered 2nd over many players in the world. Maybe it's because he plays for Barca but I'm sure you are the only one that can say something like this.

You didn't answer me, do you watch Barcelona much?

And if you disagree, who is a better finisher than Pedro?

Pedro 44 goals in 143 shots = 30.7%
Messi 95 goals in 438 shots = 21.7%
Ronaldo 86 goals in 566 shots = 15.2%
Eto'o 49 goals in 280 shots = 17.5%
Villa 46 goals in 333 shots = 13.8%

BEFORE YOU SAY IT: I'm not saying these stats PROVE anything. They do however provide an insight that there are at least some merits into rating Pedro as one of the worlds most clinical finishers.

He takes his chances, can't deny it. It's a fact.

Yes, I watch Barcelona much...

I'm not one those (luke) who totally dislike stats..but look at how many shots those players you listed compared to Pedro's if Pedro retained to accuracy with a higher number of shots then it would be more acceptable.

There many many better finishers than Pedro, Zlatan, Miccoli, Di Natale, Eto'o, Villa..just a few are deadly finishers...might not have percentage but when they are infront of goal or wherever they are shooting they usually cause trouble.

I'm not saying his not a good finisher, most pro players if they get a chance in front of goal they will score it. He's great but not the best or 2nd best.

Can't say about Miccoli or Zlatan but having watched Eto'o and Villa extensively there is not a fucking chance they are more clinical than Pedro.

And given their Barcelona links you can't use that shitty argument against me.

But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

Didn't he just have an amazing season?

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

SBSP wrote:I'd say Eto'o is more clinical that Pedro. Zlatan and Villa no.

Not unless he's improved drastically since he left Barcelona.

He was very patchy...dynamite at times but often he would scuff stacks of stances.

(I'm talking compared to Pedro, compared to most he's great)

Just saying, Eto'o has been one of the deadliest in Serie A. Especially in a league like Serie A he has to be considered an amazing finisher.

He's fantastic and he's one of the best finishers around, I wouldn't say otherwise.

Lu lu lu luis suarez

arsenalap11 wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

You didn't answer me, do you watch Barcelona much?

And if you disagree, who is a better finisher than Pedro?

Pedro 44 goals in 143 shots = 30.7%
Messi 95 goals in 438 shots = 21.7%
Ronaldo 86 goals in 566 shots = 15.2%
Eto'o 49 goals in 280 shots = 17.5%
Villa 46 goals in 333 shots = 13.8%

BEFORE YOU SAY IT: I'm not saying these stats PROVE anything. They do however provide an insight that there are at least some merits into rating Pedro as one of the worlds most clinical finishers.

He takes his chances, can't deny it. It's a fact.

Yes, I watch Barcelona much...

I'm not one those (luke) who totally dislike stats..but look at how many shots those players you listed compared to Pedro's if Pedro retained to accuracy with a higher number of shots then it would be more acceptable.

There many many better finishers than Pedro, Zlatan, Miccoli, Di Natale, Eto'o, Villa..just a few are deadly finishers...might not have percentage but when they are infront of goal or wherever they are shooting they usually cause trouble.

I'm not saying his not a good finisher, most pro players if they get a chance in front of goal they will score it. He's great but not the best or 2nd best.

Can't say about Miccoli or Zlatan but having watched Eto'o and Villa extensively there is not a fucking chance they are more clinical than Pedro.

And given their Barcelona links you can't use that shitty argument against me.

But Eto'o only just had a shit season but over the years he's played he's been considered on the best finishers of the ball. Unless you talking about current season but over few years of Etoo to Pedro, Etoo is much better.

Villa as well, shit season but in previous years compared to Pedro he's been much more clinical.

Didn't he just have an amazing season?

Yes he did, how am i supposed to take his word for Milito when he says stuff like that

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

No.

Well that's exactly what you were suggesting.

I'm not. I'm using those to say it's not as ridiculous as you think.

How is it ridiculous to say Pedro is the 2nd best finisher in the world, do you watch Barcelona? He is lethal, scores a high amount of his chances no matter what foot it is on. Big game, small game...doesn't matter to him.

Pedro is not the 2nd best finisher in the world...that's just a biased statement because if you watched other leagues you will see players that can finish more clinical than Pedro. Most top players score left foot, right foot, header, big game, small game don't see what makes Pedro special to be considered 2nd over many players in the world. Maybe it's because he plays for Barca but I'm sure you are the only one that can say something like this.

You didn't answer me, do you watch Barcelona much?

And if you disagree, who is a better finisher than Pedro?

Pedro 44 goals in 143 shots = 30.7%
Messi 95 goals in 438 shots = 21.7%
Ronaldo 86 goals in 566 shots = 15.2%
Eto'o 49 goals in 280 shots = 17.5%
Villa 46 goals in 333 shots = 13.8%

BEFORE YOU SAY IT: I'm not saying these stats PROVE anything. They do however provide an insight that there are at least some merits into rating Pedro as one of the worlds most clinical finishers.

He takes his chances, can't deny it. It's a fact.

From those stats it seems like Pedro is a "safe shooter". Less shots higher accuracy.
He is one of the best in the world don't get me wrong but I would say Ronaldo Tevez and a few more are just as good as if not better finishers.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

grenade187 wrote:The Liverpool/PL bias on here is ridiculous .

But it's there season for the 15th time

*Their.

Well done for spotting the mistake, add it to your empty list

Fonseca wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

grenade187 wrote:The Liverpool/PL bias on here is ridiculous .

But it's there season for the 15th time

*Their.

Well done for spotting the mistake, add it to your empty list

He still failed to correct it

Typical Jamie and overrating Barca players.

He's no better than Klasnic.

grenade187 wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
Well that's exactly what you were suggesting.

I'm not. I'm using those to say it's not as ridiculous as you think.

How is it ridiculous to say Pedro is the 2nd best finisher in the world, do you watch Barcelona? He is lethal, scores a high amount of his chances no matter what foot it is on. Big game, small game...doesn't matter to him.

Pedro is not the 2nd best finisher in the world...that's just a biased statement because if you watched other leagues you will see players that can finish more clinical than Pedro. Most top players score left foot, right foot, header, big game, small game don't see what makes Pedro special to be considered 2nd over many players in the world. Maybe it's because he plays for Barca but I'm sure you are the only one that can say something like this.

You didn't answer me, do you watch Barcelona much?

And if you disagree, who is a better finisher than Pedro?

Pedro 44 goals in 143 shots = 30.7%
Messi 95 goals in 438 shots = 21.7%
Ronaldo 86 goals in 566 shots = 15.2%
Eto'o 49 goals in 280 shots = 17.5%
Villa 46 goals in 333 shots = 13.8%

BEFORE YOU SAY IT: I'm not saying these stats PROVE anything. They do however provide an insight that there are at least some merits into rating Pedro as one of the worlds most clinical finishers.

He takes his chances, can't deny it. It's a fact.

From those stats it seems like Pedro is a "safe shooter". Less shots higher accuracy.
He is one of the best in the world don't get me wrong but I would say Ronaldo Tevez and a few more are just as good as if not better finishers.

Ronaldo is up there if you ignore his greedy long range shots but Tevéz sure as fuck isn't.

I really want to know what van Persies conversion rate is but can't find it