wilshere: me and mceachran for england

Fanatic wrote:

Fonseca wrote:Shelvey scores a couple of bangers and strings a few good passes, now he's Gerrard 2.0

Don't buy it yet, Denilson did the same and look where he is

Whereas Rodwell been pathetic for a long time (ask any Everton fan) yet you believe it?

Rodwell has shown obvious talent, what has Shelvey shown? I haven't even denied Rodwell's been off form

Fonseca wrote:

Fanatic wrote:

Fonseca wrote:Shelvey scores a couple of bangers and strings a few good passes, now he's Gerrard 2.0

Don't buy it yet, Denilson did the same and look where he is

Whereas Rodwell been pathetic for a long time (ask any Everton fan) yet you believe it?

Rodwell has shown obvious talent, what has Shelvey shown? I haven't even denied Rodwell's been off form

Talent.

He hasn't shown enough talent to be a future England player.

Fanatic wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Fanatic wrote:

Fonseca wrote:Shelvey scores a couple of bangers and strings a few good passes, now he's Gerrard 2.0

Don't buy it yet, Denilson did the same and look where he is

Whereas Rodwell been pathetic for a long time (ask any Everton fan) yet you believe it?

Rodwell has shown obvious talent, what has Shelvey shown? I haven't even denied Rodwell's been off form

Talent.

Limited..

kyro7 wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:

Fanatic wrote:Shelvey>Rodwell.

Rodwell is overhyped. He's been piss poor.

Shelvey has shown more potential.

Shelvey has shown fuck all tbh.

I disagree, he's shown a good passing quality in the small amount of time I've seen him..

Against Fulham he played a delicious ball for Suarez, yeah even Gibson has made a nice pass or two this season but Shelvey does look talented.

We'll have to wait and see.

He is highly reguarded by the Liverpool staff, and every game he gets his minutes in front off other players such as Cole ect ...

Even has come on as left back a couple of times this season. His passing is very good for his age, and I love his 'cokyness and arrogance' he shows. Not afraid to put a foot in, and to have shot. He has got the raw talent, just needs to mature more as a footballer and don't do silly tackles. He has progressed miles this year.

Fonseca wrote:

Fanatic wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Fanatic wrote:

Fonseca wrote:Shelvey scores a couple of bangers and strings a few good passes, now he's Gerrard 2.0

Don't buy it yet, Denilson did the same and look where he is

Whereas Rodwell been pathetic for a long time (ask any Everton fan) yet you believe it?

Rodwell has shown obvious talent, what has Shelvey shown? I haven't even denied Rodwell's been off form

Talent.

Limited..

Explain. Limited talent?

Mr Leiva wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Fanatic wrote:

Fonseca wrote:

Fanatic wrote:Whereas Rodwell been pathetic for a long time (ask any Everton fan) yet you believe it?

Rodwell has shown obvious talent, what has Shelvey shown? I haven't even denied Rodwell's been off form

Talent.

Limited..

Explain. Limited talent?

Not enough talent, explain this talent the majority of the world haven't seen yet then..

Fonseca wrote:Not talking about now, McEachran isn't even a Chelsea regular and you think he should play for england

No, but I think that he at least has England potential

He should go to a Championship club next season IMO, even if he doesn't play every game he'd grow.

I personally see Shelvey getting limited chances for England when you compare him to the current crop of England midfielders coming through.

All Rodwell has been doing has been jogging around slowly and passing it sideways lately... There are still signs he has loads of talent though, he just needs to grow a pair and get some aggression in his game. Maybe Moyes' has been telling him to hold back, maybe Rodwell is just a pussy, who knows

Those Everton jerseys are pretty tight, tbh.

Doesn't the England u21 team start like 6 Liverpool youths? Nice.

Coatsy wrote:Gerrard still has 2014 in him I reckon

England might as well not go then. Only thing He'll be useful for then is camping outside the penalty area hoping for rebounds. Too slow to defend the worlds best by 2014.

Mustangt125 wrote:Those Everton jerseys are pretty tight, tbh.

Doesn't the England u21 team start like 6 Liverpool youths? Nice.

No.

fluffy_kittens wrote:

Coatsy wrote:Gerrard still has 2014 in him I reckon

England might as well not go then. Only thing He'll be useful for then is camping outside the penalty area hoping for rebounds. Too slow to defend the worlds best by 2014.

Basing this off what? Him being your best player last World Cup?

Mustangt125 wrote:

fluffy_kittens wrote:

Coatsy wrote:Gerrard still has 2014 in him I reckon

England might as well not go then. Only thing He'll be useful for then is camping outside the penalty area hoping for rebounds. Too slow to defend the worlds best by 2014.

Basing this off what? Him being your best player last World Cup?

How about the fact that he's 31 and has been struggling with injuries?

SBSP wrote:

Mustangt125 wrote:

fluffy_kittens wrote:

Coatsy wrote:Gerrard still has 2014 in him I reckon

England might as well not go then. Only thing He'll be useful for then is camping outside the penalty area hoping for rebounds. Too slow to defend the worlds best by 2014.

Basing this off what? Him being your best player last World Cup?

How about the fact that he's 31 and has been struggling with injuries?

That's a lot more legit than "not going because Stevie is in the squad" when at your last competition, he was your best player.

That is, if England even makes it after that pathetic Euro no-show.

Oh. I didn't read that bit fluffy posted.

I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

Mal wrote:I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

Right, like you've watched him much. Next big thing? Maybe. But what have you seen to make a judgement on that. Anti-liverpool ever so slightly. You lot should have a vague opinion on him. Not 'shelvey has shown fuck all' 'fuck shelvey'. Bunch of clowns you are.

Mal wrote:I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

It's because of his baldness.

Mal wrote:I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

I think the Liverpool youth in general are overrated, don't get me wrong, Kelly will be great but I'm not sure Flanagan, Robinson, Coady and especially Spearing and Shelvey will all turn into good footballers. Although Liverpool, along with Arsenal, are England's biggest chance for future global domination.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Mal wrote:I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

Right, like you've watched him much. Next big thing? Maybe. But what have you seen to make a judgement on that. Anti-liverpool ever so slightly. You lot should have a vague opinion on him. Not 'shelvey has shown fuck all' 'fuck shelvey'. Bunch of clowns you are.

I've watched him quite a lot actually. I was watching him when he was at Charlton too so I don't know what the fuck you're on about. The likes of Henderson have shown so much more than Shelvey.

It's my opinion. Yours is obviously biased.

blackskar wrote:

Mal wrote:I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

It's because of his baldness.

Funny, taking the piss out of a medical problem.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Mal wrote:I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

It's because of his baldness.

Funny, taking the piss out of a medical problem.

Ok

blackskar wrote:

Mal wrote:I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

It's because of his baldness.

You're not allowed to mention that.

Mal wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Mal wrote:I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

Right, like you've watched him much. Next big thing? Maybe. But what have you seen to make a judgement on that. Anti-liverpool ever so slightly. You lot should have a vague opinion on him. Not 'shelvey has shown fuck all' 'fuck shelvey'. Bunch of clowns you are.

I've watched him quite a lot actually. I was watching him when he was at Charlton too so I don't know what the fuck you're on about. The likes of Henderson have shown so much more than Shelvey.

It's my opinion. Yours is obviously biased.

Irony. And sure I watched him at Charlton too, and he did show ability. Your opinion is as biased as any of the other liverpool haters. Make a smart reply on how you're not biased.

Jordi wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Mal wrote:I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

It's because of his baldness.

You're not allowed to mention that.

Why not?

My mates a cripple, doesn't stop me taking the piss out of him.

blackskar wrote:

Jordi wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Mal wrote:I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

It's because of his baldness.

You're not allowed to mention that.

Why not?

My mates a cripple, doesn't stop me taking the piss out of him.

I'm referring to all the liverpool fans that go apeshit when you mention it.

I'm taking the piss.

Jordi wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Jordi wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Mal wrote:I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

It's because of his baldness.

You're not allowed to mention that.

Why not?

My mates a cripple, doesn't stop me taking the piss out of him.

I'm referring to all the liverpool fans that go apeshit when you mention it.

I'm taking the piss.

Oh.

Liverpool fans go apeshit over most things these days

blackskar wrote:

Jordi wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Mal wrote:I love how people think Shelvey is the next big thing. I've been more impressed by the young full backs at Liverpool than anyone else. Shelvey didn't even look that special at Charlton.

It's because of his baldness.

You're not allowed to mention that.

Why not?

My mates a cripple, doesn't stop me taking the piss out of him.

This has got fuck all to do with your personal life. One could use it to justify anything, racism for instance.