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    wilshere: me and mceachran for england

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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:25 am

    Dan wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Dan wrote:

    Rolling Eyes

    Dodge that, why don't you. Here, I'll lay it plain and simple for you. You lack a valid opinion as it is RAWK that speaks, not you.

    Yep, thanks for taking one of my points severly off-topic.

    I can't win sometimes.. Rolling Eyes

    Lighten up. Neutral

    No, because it's fucking annoying.

    That's your problem then. Rolling Eyes


    You've changed though., I thought you were cool Dan. wilshere: me and mceachran for england - Page 5 1371890812
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:28 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:

    Dodge that, why don't you. Here, I'll lay it plain and simple for you. You lack a valid opinion as it is RAWK that speaks, not you.

    Yep, thanks for taking one of my points severly off-topic.

    I can't win sometimes.. Rolling Eyes

    Lighten up. Neutral

    No, because it's fucking annoying.

    That's your problem then. Rolling Eyes


    You've changed though., I thought you were cool Dan. wilshere: me and mceachran for england - Page 5 1371890812

    See, that's the problem. I get told I'm not serious, when I am serious, people will make a joke. I'm told that when I state my opinion, either I'm talking down to someone or I've nicked it off RAWK. I'm told I've 'changed', bit for the worse, when everyone else has changed for the better.

    I make a point, completely on-topic, nothing to debate at all and it's taken away completely. Ridiculous.
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    Post by Grenade Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:30 am

    Why do Liverpool fans always over-rate their players?
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    Post by Cadbury Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:32 am

    grenade187 wrote:Why do Liverpool fans always over-rate their players?

    Why do Arsenal fans always over-rate their midfield?
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:33 am

    grenade187 wrote:Why do Liverpool fans always over-rate their players?

    Apologise for rating one of our players. I mean, the fact that the coaches at Charlton, Rafa Benitez, Kenny Dalglish, the coahces under both managers and also England coaches at various youth levels have rated him very highly, must mean absolutely fuck all.
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    Post by Coatsy Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:33 am

    Cadbury wrote:
    grenade187 wrote:Why do Liverpool fans always over-rate their players?

    Why do Arsenal fans always over-rate their midfield?
    Poor effort.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:34 am

    Dan wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Dan wrote:

    Yep, thanks for taking one of my points severly off-topic.

    I can't win sometimes.. Rolling Eyes

    Lighten up. Neutral

    No, because it's fucking annoying.

    That's your problem then. Rolling Eyes


    You've changed though., I thought you were cool Dan. wilshere: me and mceachran for england - Page 5 1371890812

    See, that's the problem. I get told I'm not serious, when I am serious, people will make a joke. I'm told that when I state my opinion, either I'm talking down to someone or I've nicked it off RAWK. I'm told I've 'changed', bit for the worse, when everyone else has changed for the better.

    I make a point, completely on-topic, nothing to debate at all and it's taken away completely. Ridiculous.

    Again, lighten up. I don't exactly go round quoting you. You were the one who had a go at me first anyway. Just getting my back. wilshere: me and mceachran for england - Page 5 727917

    You do sound arrogant at times, maybe it's just the way you write.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:34 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:

    Lighten up. Neutral

    No, because it's fucking annoying.

    That's your problem then. Rolling Eyes


    You've changed though., I thought you were cool Dan. wilshere: me and mceachran for england - Page 5 1371890812

    See, that's the problem. I get told I'm not serious, when I am serious, people will make a joke. I'm told that when I state my opinion, either I'm talking down to someone or I've nicked it off RAWK. I'm told I've 'changed', bit for the worse, when everyone else has changed for the better.

    I make a point, completely on-topic, nothing to debate at all and it's taken away completely. Ridiculous.

    Again, lighten up. I don't exactly go round quoting you. You were the one who had a go at me first anyway. Just getting my back. wilshere: me and mceachran for england - Page 5 727917

    You do sound arrogant at times, maybe it's just the way you write.

    Never denied that. I believe what I write is right. I'm not the only one, but even though I admit it, I get shit for it.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:35 am

    grenade187 wrote:Why do Liverpool fans always over-rate their players?

    Doesn't everyone? Are you that dumb or are you just trying to start another argument? Failed. Next.
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    Post by Cadbury Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:36 am

    Coatsy wrote:
    Cadbury wrote:
    grenade187 wrote:Why do Liverpool fans always over-rate their players?

    Why do Arsenal fans always over-rate their midfield?
    Poor effort.

    Win.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:38 am

    Dan wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Dan wrote:

    No, because it's fucking annoying.

    That's your problem then. Rolling Eyes


    You've changed though., I thought you were cool Dan. wilshere: me and mceachran for england - Page 5 1371890812

    See, that's the problem. I get told I'm not serious, when I am serious, people will make a joke. I'm told that when I state my opinion, either I'm talking down to someone or I've nicked it off RAWK. I'm told I've 'changed', bit for the worse, when everyone else has changed for the better.

    I make a point, completely on-topic, nothing to debate at all and it's taken away completely. Ridiculous.

    Again, lighten up. I don't exactly go round quoting you. You were the one who had a go at me first anyway. Just getting my back. wilshere: me and mceachran for england - Page 5 727917

    You do sound arrogant at times, maybe it's just the way you write.

    Never denied that. I believe what I write is right. I'm not the only one, but even though I admit it, I get shit for it.

    Just the odd few who called you out on it. Never noticed it before. Doesn't bother me anyway.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:39 am

    Cadbury wrote:
    Coatsy wrote:
    Cadbury wrote:
    grenade187 wrote:Why do Liverpool fans always over-rate their players?

    Why do Arsenal fans always over-rate their midfield?
    Poor effort.

    Win.

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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:40 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:

    That's your problem then. Rolling Eyes


    You've changed though., I thought you were cool Dan. wilshere: me and mceachran for england - Page 5 1371890812

    See, that's the problem. I get told I'm not serious, when I am serious, people will make a joke. I'm told that when I state my opinion, either I'm talking down to someone or I've nicked it off RAWK. I'm told I've 'changed', bit for the worse, when everyone else has changed for the better.

    I make a point, completely on-topic, nothing to debate at all and it's taken away completely. Ridiculous.

    Again, lighten up. I don't exactly go round quoting you. You were the one who had a go at me first anyway. Just getting my back. wilshere: me and mceachran for england - Page 5 727917

    You do sound arrogant at times, maybe it's just the way you write.

    Never denied that. I believe what I write is right. I'm not the only one, but even though I admit it, I get shit for it.

    Just the odd few who called you out on it. Never noticed it before. Doesn't bother me anyway.

    Guess you aren't as sensitive as the rest.. hehe
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    Post by Grenade Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:51 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    grenade187 wrote:Why do Liverpool fans always over-rate their players?

    Doesn't everyone? Are you that dumb or are you just trying to start another argument? Failed. Next.

    Im not trying to start an argument but I have seen the guy play alot of times and cant beleive you lot think he can even be a future England squad player. Sure he can prove me otherwise in the future but as it stands right now he has no future in the England first team with the lack of talent he shows.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:04 am

    The usual "we pool fans know what we're talking about that we don't need to explain for your ignorance" is showing
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:06 am

    That's it, feed the anti-Liverpool hate. It seems to be growing.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:08 am

    What hate?

    Even you didn't describe what makes him so highly rated
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:09 am

    Dan wrote:
    grenade187 wrote:Why do Liverpool fans always over-rate their players?

    Apologise for rating one of our players. I mean, the fact that the coaches at Charlton, Rafa Benitez, Kenny Dalglish, the coahces under both managers and also England coaches at various youth levels have rated him very highly, must mean absolutely fuck all.

    *cough*
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:10 am

    Fonseca wrote:The usual "we pool fans know what we're talking about that we don't need to explain for your ignorance" is showing

    It does ring true when we're talking about our youth players. Simple as, you'll never know how good Shelvey is until he gains more exposure at the top level. We, on the other hand have seen him on reserve level, and pay more attention to him at the top level. Are our opinions definitely right? No. Are they wrong? No until proven otherwise. However for you to make an assessment on a player you've rarely seen, is wrong, plain and simple.

    In other words Shelvey might be good, might be bad, might be average, but the truth is not known yet. Give him a couple of seasons before you say 'Shelvey has shown fuck all' Not that you said that, don't remember who did.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:11 am

    Fonseca wrote:What hate?

    Even you didn't describe what makes him so highly rated

    No please do go on..
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:13 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:What hate?

    Even you didn't describe what makes him so highly rated

    No please do go on..

    Because I've watched him play. How many times have you seen him this season?

    My post above shows that he is highly rated. It was posted in counter to someone stating we 'overrate' one of our players.


    Make sense now?
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:15 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:The usual "we pool fans know what we're talking about that we don't need to explain for your ignorance" is showing

    It does ring true when we're talking about our youth players. Simple as, you'll never know how good Shelvey is until he gains more exposure at the top level. We, on the other hand have seen him on reserve level, and pay more attention to him at the top level. Are our opinions definitely right? No. Are they wrong? No until proven otherwise. However for you to make an assessment on a player you've rarely seen, is wrong, plain and simple.

    In other words Shelvey might be good, might be bad, might be average, but the truth is not known yet. Give him a couple of seasons before you say 'Shelvey has shown fuck all' Not that you said that, don't remember who did.

    I said he hasn't shown enough talent not that he doesn't have it.

    Wait why are you criticising me for seeing a player I said was a good passer of the ball and shooter of the ball before anyone else did, no you're doing the same arrogant thing I just described "assuming no one but Liverpool fans know what the situation is"

    I didn't say he hasn't done fuck all, fuck off
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:16 am

    Dan wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:What hate?

    Even you didn't describe what makes him so highly rated

    No please do go on..

    Because I've watched him play. How many times have you seen him this season?

    My post above shows that he is highly rated. It was posted in counter to someone stating we 'overrate' one of our players.


    Make sense now?

    That's the point I've been trying to force into their thick skulls.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:17 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:The usual "we pool fans know what we're talking about that we don't need to explain for your ignorance" is showing

    It does ring true when we're talking about our youth players. Simple as, you'll never know how good Shelvey is until he gains more exposure at the top level. We, on the other hand have seen him on reserve level, and pay more attention to him at the top level. Are our opinions definitely right? No. Are they wrong? No until proven otherwise. However for you to make an assessment on a player you've rarely seen, is wrong, plain and simple.

    In other words Shelvey might be good, might be bad, might be average, but the truth is not known yet. Give him a couple of seasons before you say 'Shelvey has shown fuck all' Not that you said that, don't remember who did.

    I said he hasn't shown enough talent not that he doesn't have it.

    Wait why are you criticising me for seeing a player I said was a good passer of the ball and shooter of the ball before anyone else did, no you're doing the same arrogant thing I just described "assuming no one but Liverpool fans know what the situation is"

    I didn't say he hasn't done fuck all, fuck off

    Take a step back, I didn't say it was you. Just had to get it off my chest as a few clowns have been calling him shite without actual reason behind it.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:19 am

    Dan wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:What hate?

    Even you didn't describe what makes him so highly rated

    No please do go on..

    Because I've watched him play. How many times have you seen him this season?

    My post above shows that he is highly rated. It was posted in counter to someone stating we 'overrate' one of our players.


    Make sense now?

    5 times at reserves level and at Charlton which I quote "was an absolute steal", I've explained his best attributes.. I don't need to justify your players style of play for you cowardly claim I don't know what I'm on about. You explain to me, not your coaches or the england coaches.. "you" which I asked
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    Post by Grenade Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:20 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:The usual "we pool fans know what we're talking about that we don't need to explain for your ignorance" is showing

    It does ring true when we're talking about our youth players. Simple as, you'll never know how good Shelvey is until he gains more exposure at the top level. We, on the other hand have seen him on reserve level, and pay more attention to him at the top level. Are our opinions definitely right? No. Are they wrong? No until proven otherwise. However for you to make an assessment on a player you've rarely seen, is wrong, plain and simple.

    In other words Shelvey might be good, might be bad, might be average, but the truth is not known yet. Give him a couple of seasons before you say 'Shelvey has shown fuck all' Not that you said that, don't remember who did.

    Thats the point. Yet you all say he will be a future England player and he will show this or that. Just love the fact that you all assume we never watch him play aswell.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:21 am

    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:The usual "we pool fans know what we're talking about that we don't need to explain for your ignorance" is showing

    It does ring true when we're talking about our youth players. Simple as, you'll never know how good Shelvey is until he gains more exposure at the top level. We, on the other hand have seen him on reserve level, and pay more attention to him at the top level. Are our opinions definitely right? No. Are they wrong? No until proven otherwise. However for you to make an assessment on a player you've rarely seen, is wrong, plain and simple.

    In other words Shelvey might be good, might be bad, might be average, but the truth is not known yet. Give him a couple of seasons before you say 'Shelvey has shown fuck all' Not that you said that, don't remember who did.

    I said he hasn't shown enough talent not that he doesn't have it.

    Wait why are you criticising me for seeing a player I said was a good passer of the ball and shooter of the ball before anyone else did, no you're doing the same arrogant thing I just described "assuming no one but Liverpool fans know what the situation is"

    I didn't say he hasn't done fuck all, fuck off

    Take a step back, I didn't say it was you. Just had to get it off my chest as a few clowns have been calling him shite without actual reason behind it.

    What's this "you say" bit then, no you're being a twit like most of the people in that thread thinking I have anti Liverpool hate
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:23 am

    grenade187 wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:The usual "we pool fans know what we're talking about that we don't need to explain for your ignorance" is showing

    It does ring true when we're talking about our youth players. Simple as, you'll never know how good Shelvey is until he gains more exposure at the top level. We, on the other hand have seen him on reserve level, and pay more attention to him at the top level. Are our opinions definitely right? No. Are they wrong? No until proven otherwise. However for you to make an assessment on a player you've rarely seen, is wrong, plain and simple.

    In other words Shelvey might be good, might be bad, might be average, but the truth is not known yet. Give him a couple of seasons before you say 'Shelvey has shown fuck all' Not that you said that, don't remember who did.

    Thats the point. Yet you all say he will be a future England player and he will show this or that. Just love the fact that you all assume we never watch him play aswell.

    And? Are we not allowed to be biased? It's what we believe, and we believe we have reason to believe. Does not mean we're idiots, as others have stated that he has potential.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:24 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    Dan wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:What hate?

    Even you didn't describe what makes him so highly rated

    No please do go on..

    Because I've watched him play. How many times have you seen him this season?

    My post above shows that he is highly rated. It was posted in counter to someone stating we 'overrate' one of our players.


    Make sense now?

    5 times at reserves level and at Charlton which I quote "was an absolute steal", I've explained his best attributes.. I don't need to justify your players style of play for you cowardly claim I don't know what I'm on about. You explain to me, not your coaches or the england coaches.. "you" which I asked

    I never said you didn't know what you were on about?

    I was simply pointing out that you missed the point of what my post was.

    Also, if you've explained his best attributes, why do you need me to confirm them? I am simply stating that Shelvey is highly rated by a number of senior and professional people around the country, so our thoughts of him are perfectly well justified.
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    Post by Guest Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:25 am

    Fonseca wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:
    Eternal Witcher wrote:
    Fonseca wrote:The usual "we pool fans know what we're talking about that we don't need to explain for your ignorance" is showing

    It does ring true when we're talking about our youth players. Simple as, you'll never know how good Shelvey is until he gains more exposure at the top level. We, on the other hand have seen him on reserve level, and pay more attention to him at the top level. Are our opinions definitely right? No. Are they wrong? No until proven otherwise. However for you to make an assessment on a player you've rarely seen, is wrong, plain and simple.

    In other words Shelvey might be good, might be bad, might be average, but the truth is not known yet. Give him a couple of seasons before you say 'Shelvey has shown fuck all' Not that you said that, don't remember who did.

    I said he hasn't shown enough talent not that he doesn't have it.

    Wait why are you criticising me for seeing a player I said was a good passer of the ball and shooter of the ball before anyone else did, no you're doing the same arrogant thing I just described "assuming no one but Liverpool fans know what the situation is"

    I didn't say he hasn't done fuck all, fuck off

    Take a step back, I didn't say it was you. Just had to get it off my chest as a few clowns have been calling him shite without actual reason behind it.

    What's this "you say" bit then, no you're being a twit like most of the people in that thread thinking I have anti Liverpool hate

    I just quoted you because you asked the question. Don't take any of the 'you's personally if you don't want to.

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