Cam wrote:Also, if Chelsea first team were playing, and Chelsea B were playing in league 2 at the same time, I can't imagine that many people going to watch the B team, but that's just what I think
Exactly, would be horrible.
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Exactly, would be horrible.
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Mr Leiva wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:CTFC~ced wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Dean wrote:
Due to the reasons CTFC gave.
Which are? All I've seen him say is he doesn't want to play in an empty stadium.
And I mentioned the damaging financial effects that a reserve team would have on the football league. For example Hereford fans bring 1200 fans to us generating £20,000 in ticket sales where as Chelsea's B team wouldn't bring any fans especially if their A team is playing on the same day. The league clubs would get poorer due to a loss of revenue in ticket sales and tv money. This will divide the gap even bigger between the top clubs and the football league clubs.
I also mentioned the fact that well established clubs would be denied a place in the Football League due to a bunch of reserve clubs.
No one would lose a place, they'd start at the bottom and work their way up.
As for the loss of revenue it's a possibility but I don't see how it's much different to a team working their way up the leagues organically, the B teams will have support.
Not hardcore support. Just a bunch of people that can't afford the tickets, or just want to watch youth.
Plus reserves should be used as development, not winning trophies.
So say a new team set up, should they be banned from entering the league system? That's essentially the case at the minute.
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Depends. Some people might be closer to the B match than they are to wherever it is Chelsea are playing. They go to the B match and keep an ear out for the results of the Chelsea match. Also people might have favoured players in the B team, so even more insentive for them to check out how he performs against established teams.Cam wrote:Also, if Chelsea first team were playing, and Chelsea B were playing in league 2 at the same time, I can't imagine that many people going to watch the B team, but that's just what I think
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Fine Shagger wrote:CTFC~ced wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Dean wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:
Why not?
Due to the reasons CTFC gave.
Which are? All I've seen him say is he doesn't want to play in an empty stadium.
And I mentioned the damaging financial effects that a reserve team would have on the football league. For example Hereford fans bring 1200 fans to us generating £20,000 in ticket sales where as Chelsea's B team wouldn't bring any fans especially if their A team is playing on the same day. The league clubs would get poorer due to a loss of revenue in ticket sales and tv money. This will divide the gap even bigger between the top clubs and the football league clubs.
I also mentioned the fact that well established clubs would be denied a place in the Football League due to a bunch of reserve clubs.
No one would lose a place, they'd start at the bottom and work their way up.
As for the loss of revenue it's a possibility but I don't see how it's much different to a team working their way up the leagues organically, the B teams will have support.
Say Man Utd are playing at home to Chelsea and Cheltenham are playing Manchester United's B team in Cheltenham. Who the fuck would travel down to Cheltenahm (150 miles) to support the reserves? Maybe the players families and that's it.
If the top divisions reserves start at the bottom of english football then it would be a waste of time as the quality of football is terrible. Sooner or later if they're aloud to get promoted they will make their way up to the football league. Every promotion they would gain would deny a proper club from going up.
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CTFC~ced wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:CTFC~ced wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:Dean wrote:
Due to the reasons CTFC gave.
Which are? All I've seen him say is he doesn't want to play in an empty stadium.
And I mentioned the damaging financial effects that a reserve team would have on the football league. For example Hereford fans bring 1200 fans to us generating £20,000 in ticket sales where as Chelsea's B team wouldn't bring any fans especially if their A team is playing on the same day. The league clubs would get poorer due to a loss of revenue in ticket sales and tv money. This will divide the gap even bigger between the top clubs and the football league clubs.
I also mentioned the fact that well established clubs would be denied a place in the Football League due to a bunch of reserve clubs.
No one would lose a place, they'd start at the bottom and work their way up.
As for the loss of revenue it's a possibility but I don't see how it's much different to a team working their way up the leagues organically, the B teams will have support.
Say Man Utd are playing at home to Chelsea and Cheltenham are playing Manchester United's B team in Cheltenham. Who the fuck would travel down to Cheltenahm (150 miles) to support the reserves? Maybe the players families and that's it.
If the top divisions reserves start at the bottom of english football then it would be a waste of time as the quality of football is terrible. Sooner or later if they're aloud to get promoted they will make their way up to the football league. Every promotion they would gain would deny a proper club from going up.
Why are they not a proper club?
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Good to see I've caused a bit of controversy. 
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Fine Shagger wrote:Mr Leiva wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:CTFC~ced wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:
Which are? All I've seen him say is he doesn't want to play in an empty stadium.
And I mentioned the damaging financial effects that a reserve team would have on the football league. For example Hereford fans bring 1200 fans to us generating £20,000 in ticket sales where as Chelsea's B team wouldn't bring any fans especially if their A team is playing on the same day. The league clubs would get poorer due to a loss of revenue in ticket sales and tv money. This will divide the gap even bigger between the top clubs and the football league clubs.
I also mentioned the fact that well established clubs would be denied a place in the Football League due to a bunch of reserve clubs.
No one would lose a place, they'd start at the bottom and work their way up.
As for the loss of revenue it's a possibility but I don't see how it's much different to a team working their way up the leagues organically, the B teams will have support.
Not hardcore support. Just a bunch of people that can't afford the tickets, or just want to watch youth.
Plus reserves should be used as development, not winning trophies.
So say a new team set up, should they be banned from entering the league system? That's essentially the case at the minute.
In years to come, you will monopolizes the lower leagues with reserve teams. Degrade the league, because off proper clubs not being able to get in the leagues. Degrade the competition and prestige off winning a league down there.
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Fine Shagger wrote:CTFC~ced wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:CTFC~ced wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:
Which are? All I've seen him say is he doesn't want to play in an empty stadium.
And I mentioned the damaging financial effects that a reserve team would have on the football league. For example Hereford fans bring 1200 fans to us generating £20,000 in ticket sales where as Chelsea's B team wouldn't bring any fans especially if their A team is playing on the same day. The league clubs would get poorer due to a loss of revenue in ticket sales and tv money. This will divide the gap even bigger between the top clubs and the football league clubs.
I also mentioned the fact that well established clubs would be denied a place in the Football League due to a bunch of reserve clubs.
No one would lose a place, they'd start at the bottom and work their way up.
As for the loss of revenue it's a possibility but I don't see how it's much different to a team working their way up the leagues organically, the B teams will have support.
Say Man Utd are playing at home to Chelsea and Cheltenham are playing Manchester United's B team in Cheltenham. Who the fuck would travel down to Cheltenahm (150 miles) to support the reserves? Maybe the players families and that's it.
If the top divisions reserves start at the bottom of english football then it would be a waste of time as the quality of football is terrible. Sooner or later if they're aloud to get promoted they will make their way up to the football league. Every promotion they would gain would deny a proper club from going up.
Why are they not a proper club?
Because they are a sub club of a club.
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Fine Shagger wrote:CTFC~ced wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:CTFC~ced wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:
Which are? All I've seen him say is he doesn't want to play in an empty stadium.
And I mentioned the damaging financial effects that a reserve team would have on the football league. For example Hereford fans bring 1200 fans to us generating £20,000 in ticket sales where as Chelsea's B team wouldn't bring any fans especially if their A team is playing on the same day. The league clubs would get poorer due to a loss of revenue in ticket sales and tv money. This will divide the gap even bigger between the top clubs and the football league clubs.
I also mentioned the fact that well established clubs would be denied a place in the Football League due to a bunch of reserve clubs.
No one would lose a place, they'd start at the bottom and work their way up.
As for the loss of revenue it's a possibility but I don't see how it's much different to a team working their way up the leagues organically, the B teams will have support.
Say Man Utd are playing at home to Chelsea and Cheltenham are playing Manchester United's B team in Cheltenham. Who the fuck would travel down to Cheltenahm (150 miles) to support the reserves? Maybe the players families and that's it.
If the top divisions reserves start at the bottom of english football then it would be a waste of time as the quality of football is terrible. Sooner or later if they're aloud to get promoted they will make their way up to the football league. Every promotion they would gain would deny a proper club from going up.
Why are they not a proper club?
Becuase they are a reserve team
They already have their club entry to the English Football League and they are in the Premiership most likely.
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That Man Utd example is terrible. There are probably more Man Utd fans closer to Cheltenham than there are closer to United itself.
Fans of big teams like United and Chelsea are spread all over, there is bound to be some fans who will go to see Chelsea B/Man Utd B. Further up the leagues they get, the more support they will bring in.
Fans of big teams like United and Chelsea are spread all over, there is bound to be some fans who will go to see Chelsea B/Man Utd B. Further up the leagues they get, the more support they will bring in.
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Radford11 wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:CTFC~ced wrote:Fine Shagger wrote:CTFC~ced wrote:
And I mentioned the damaging financial effects that a reserve team would have on the football league. For example Hereford fans bring 1200 fans to us generating £20,000 in ticket sales where as Chelsea's B team wouldn't bring any fans especially if their A team is playing on the same day. The league clubs would get poorer due to a loss of revenue in ticket sales and tv money. This will divide the gap even bigger between the top clubs and the football league clubs.
I also mentioned the fact that well established clubs would be denied a place in the Football League due to a bunch of reserve clubs.
No one would lose a place, they'd start at the bottom and work their way up.
As for the loss of revenue it's a possibility but I don't see how it's much different to a team working their way up the leagues organically, the B teams will have support.
Say Man Utd are playing at home to Chelsea and Cheltenham are playing Manchester United's B team in Cheltenham. Who the fuck would travel down to Cheltenahm (150 miles) to support the reserves? Maybe the players families and that's it.
If the top divisions reserves start at the bottom of english football then it would be a waste of time as the quality of football is terrible. Sooner or later if they're aloud to get promoted they will make their way up to the football league. Every promotion they would gain would deny a proper club from going up.
Why are they not a proper club?
Becuase they are a reserve team
We'll never agree so feck this.
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Yeah, think we should leave it for now. Starting to derailing the thread a bit. Any other ideas?
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Tighter shirts for footballers?
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So you can admire the muscles?
I suggest beards are a requirement.
I suggest beards are a requirement.
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Torres should have to take his shirt off after every game
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Piqué and Thiago should wrestle in oil.
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Pique and Sergio Ramos you mean. 
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Ramos looks like a girl, kinda defeats the purpose of my fantasy situation.
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What I'd change:
- Add goal line technology
- Make a rule for minimum time a player can be out for injury treatment (at least 3 minutes)
- Change the rules so diving can be punished after the match - no matter what the ref saw.
- Make taking your shirt off not a bookable offense, unless there's an offensive statement or advertising under the shirt
- Salary caps (I admit it - I used to think it's a strange idea, but when I think about it, it's a pretty good idea)
- Get rid of the away goal rule.
- Extra point for high scoring draws (4-4 or higher)
- Extra point for big victories (6-0 or higher)
- Making sure that the rules apply to everyone (FC Midtjylland gets punished for signing Nigerians under 18 - big clubs don't get punished for signing U/18 off continent players)
- Add goal line technology
- Make a rule for minimum time a player can be out for injury treatment (at least 3 minutes)
- Change the rules so diving can be punished after the match - no matter what the ref saw.
- Make taking your shirt off not a bookable offense, unless there's an offensive statement or advertising under the shirt
- Salary caps (I admit it - I used to think it's a strange idea, but when I think about it, it's a pretty good idea)
- Get rid of the away goal rule.
- Extra point for high scoring draws (4-4 or higher)
- Extra point for big victories (6-0 or higher)
- Making sure that the rules apply to everyone (FC Midtjylland gets punished for signing Nigerians under 18 - big clubs don't get punished for signing U/18 off continent players)
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Substitutions - When a player is substituted they walk off the pitch by the shortest possible route, they don't walk to the dugout. Their team-mate immediately comes on.
Standing - All clubs to be allowed safe standing areas as in Germany. I think we've had this discussion before though.
Standing - All clubs to be allowed safe standing areas as in Germany. I think we've had this discussion before though.
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Assassinate Sepp Blatter and his hench men.
Problem sorted.
Problem sorted.
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Long booked for slotting his shot into the net after he had been ruled offside.
Make this not a yellow card offense.
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Have more 15:00 kick offs and maybe have some of them on Sky instead of showing it at a later time so it can be shown on sky.
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dena wrote:Tighter shirts for footballers?
Fine Shagger wrote:Piqué and Thiago should wrestle in oil.
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Kris wrote:What I'd change:
- Add goal line technology
- Make a rule for minimum time a player can be out for injury treatment (at least 3 minutes)
- Change the rules so diving can be punished after the match - no matter what the ref saw.
- Make taking your shirt off not a bookable offense, unless there's an offensive statement under the shirt
- Salary caps (I admit it - I used to think it's a strange idea, but when I think about it, it's a pretty good idea)
- Get rid of the away goal rule.
- Extra point for high scoring draws (4-4 or higher)
- Extra point for big victories (6-0 or higher)
In some leagues I have played in, you get extra points for scoring 3 or more goals and not allowing the other team to score.
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That's stupid IMO.ahlycotc wrote:Kris wrote:What I'd change:
- Add goal line technology
- Make a rule for minimum time a player can be out for injury treatment (at least 3 minutes)
- Change the rules so diving can be punished after the match - no matter what the ref saw.
- Make taking your shirt off not a bookable offense, unless there's an offensive statement under the shirt
- Salary caps (I admit it - I used to think it's a strange idea, but when I think about it, it's a pretty good idea)
- Get rid of the away goal rule.
- Extra point for high scoring draws (4-4 or higher)
- Extra point for big victories (6-0 or higher)
In some leagues I have played in, you get extra points for scoring 3 or more goals and not allowing the other team to score.
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Salary cap, makes the whole league more competitive
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Pip wrote:Scrap the Oceania Playoffs
Have a Video Ref
Make every NT have a manager from that particular nation
Make taking your top off not a bookable offense unless there is nothing underneath the top.
I dont understand what everyone has against a mans bare chest? you seee it everyday when you shower I dont see why its bookable.
Anyway main thing for me is instant replay for goals if they are questionable, enough people have gotten ripped off already
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The reason behind getting booked for taking off your shirt is to prevent advertisement and potential controversial statements under the shirt. It's not about showing your chest.
