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    Post by chiboygeorge Thu May 12, 2011 8:22 am

    luke. wrote:Brazilian revolution at Chelsea, I'm tellin ya.

    Ramires, Luiz, Neymar (Kaka Hints at Chelsea Move - Page 3 784961), Kaka, Alex.
    Neymar > Chelsea.

    Also, Kaka is still better than all the attacking midfielders in the premier league. I can't belive people thought Meireles was better. Kaka Hints at Chelsea Move - Page 3 70955
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    Post by Jamie Thu May 12, 2011 8:23 am

    chiboygeorge wrote:
    luke. wrote:Brazilian revolution at Chelsea, I'm tellin ya.

    Ramires, Luiz, Neymar (Kaka Hints at Chelsea Move - Page 3 784961), Kaka, Alex.
    Neymar > Chelsea.

    Also, Kaka is still better than all the attacking midfielders in the premier league. I can't belive people thought Meireles was better. Kaka Hints at Chelsea Move - Page 3 70955

    Silva > Kaká
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 8:24 am

    Maxi>Kaka
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    Post by chiboygeorge Thu May 12, 2011 8:25 am

    Fine Shagger wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:
    luke. wrote:Brazilian revolution at Chelsea, I'm tellin ya.

    Ramires, Luiz, Neymar (Kaka Hints at Chelsea Move - Page 3 784961), Kaka, Alex.
    Neymar > Chelsea.

    Also, Kaka is still better than all the attacking midfielders in the premier league. I can't belive people thought Meireles was better. Kaka Hints at Chelsea Move - Page 3 70955


    Silva > Kaká
    Great shout, totally forgot about Silva. But it's still debatable though, Silva is not very ruthless with his finishing like Kaka though.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 8:27 am

    Silva is one of the best attcking midfielders in the Prem and in the world.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 8:47 am

    Kaka's best attribute was his explosive pace. His knee is fucked now and the last thing that would improve his career is playing in a physical place like the EPL.
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    Post by AriseForLife Thu May 12, 2011 9:21 am

    Pace? What pace? Kaka has never been known for his pace. His best attributes have always been his vision, balance, intelligence, and overall ball skills. Not pace.


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    Post by Jamie Thu May 12, 2011 9:22 am

    Acceleration then, but yes he has. Laughing
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 9:59 am

    AriseForLife wrote:Pace? What pace? Kaka has never been known for his pace. His best attributes have always been his vision, balance, intelligence, and overall ball skills. Not pace.
    No pace? Kaka was fucking lightning before his injuries, similar to Ronaldo speed now. He left Messi for dead famously, a box-to-box sprint with the ball at his feet.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 10:15 am

    AriseForLife wrote:Pace? What pace? Kaka has never been known for his pace. His best attributes have always been his vision, balance, intelligence, and overall ball skills. Not pace.
    facepalm

    While he had more than pace, his pace was huge to him.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Thu May 12, 2011 11:05 am

    The-Reporter wrote:
    AriseForLife wrote:Pace? What pace? Kaka has never been known for his pace. His best attributes have always been his vision, balance, intelligence, and overall ball skills. Not pace.
    No pace? Kaka was fucking lightning before his injuries, similar to Ronaldo speed now. He left Messi for dead famously, a box-to-box sprint with the ball at his feet.
    And scored. Wink
    Kaka had amazing pace but that's not what defined him. He only used his pace sparingly, you rarely see Kaka on a full sprint with the ball unless it was like a counter or he was 1v1 but he didnt rely on pace like you all are making it out to be.
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    Post by Jamie Thu May 12, 2011 11:07 am

    chiboygeorge wrote:
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    AriseForLife wrote:Pace? What pace? Kaka has never been known for his pace. His best attributes have always been his vision, balance, intelligence, and overall ball skills. Not pace.
    No pace? Kaka was fucking lightning before his injuries, similar to Ronaldo speed now. He left Messi for dead famously, a box-to-box sprint with the ball at his feet.
    And scored. Wink
    Kaka had amazing pace but that's not what defined him. He only used his pace sparingly, you rarely see Kaka on a full sprint with the ball unless it was like a counter or he was 1v1 but he didnt rely on pace like you all are making it out to be.

    Not his pace though but his acceleration is what made him so good. Like a lot of top footballers really...
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 11:10 am

    chiboygeorge wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:
    AriseForLife wrote:Pace? What pace? Kaka has never been known for his pace. His best attributes have always been his vision, balance, intelligence, and overall ball skills. Not pace.
    No pace? Kaka was fucking lightning before his injuries, similar to Ronaldo speed now. He left Messi for dead famously, a box-to-box sprint with the ball at his feet.
    And scored. Wink
    Kaka had amazing pace but that's not what defined him. He only used his pace sparingly, you rarely see Kaka on a full sprint with the ball unless it was like a counter or he was 1v1 but he didnt rely on pace like you all are making it out to be.
    Nobody said he relies on pace, but it was a big part of his wow factor. Look at some of his best goals he used explosive pace to go past players and then scored. He was fucking rapid and he won't have that to his game anymore.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Thu May 12, 2011 11:17 am

    The-Reporter wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:
    AriseForLife wrote:Pace? What pace? Kaka has never been known for his pace. His best attributes have always been his vision, balance, intelligence, and overall ball skills. Not pace.
    No pace? Kaka was fucking lightning before his injuries, similar to Ronaldo speed now. He left Messi for dead famously, a box-to-box sprint with the ball at his feet.
    And scored. Wink
    Kaka had amazing pace but that's not what defined him. He only used his pace sparingly, you rarely see Kaka on a full sprint with the ball unless it was like a counter or he was 1v1 but he didnt rely on pace like you all are making it out to be.
    Nobody said he relies on pace, but it was a big part of his wow factor. Look at some of his best goals he used explosive pace to go past players and then scored. He was fucking rapid and he won't have that to his game anymore.
    Posting like it was though.
    If he moved to Chelsea pace won't hinder him from being the best in the PL? Pace or no Pace he'd still do a beast job for Chelsea look at what he done for Brazil in past two years...Kaka is still one of the best midfielders in the world..
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    Post by Marvin Thu May 12, 2011 11:19 am

    I'm with George on this. gay
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 11:21 am

    I think he is past it and so inury prone he's not worth the wages. Chelsea should buy somebody young like Aguero.
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    Post by dena Thu May 12, 2011 11:22 am

    I think Kaka could do a job for Chelsea, and he fills a need (creative midfielder) Chelsea will probably play with one striker next year, so a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 with Kaka in the hole could definitely work. Is he past his best? Yes. Does that mean he's shit? No.

    Main issue is he will demand wages/transfer fee that is not equal to what he's done the past two or three seasons, that's where the criticism will come in.
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    Post by Marvin Thu May 12, 2011 11:23 am

    The-Reporter wrote:I think he is past it and so inury prone he's not worth the wages. Chelsea should buy somebody young like Aguero.
    They will, but they also want Kaka.

    Don't think he's past it either.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Thu May 12, 2011 11:27 am

    He's not past it...if past it means he's not Ronaldo/Messi status anymore then..OK but he's stilll better than MANY midfielders in the world. The ones that are better are playing for Barcelona..and Real Madrid..or are at a better club then Chelsea.
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    Post by dena Thu May 12, 2011 11:28 am

    chiboygeorge wrote:He's not past it...if past it means he's not Ronaldo/Messi status anymore then..OK but he's stilll better than MANY midfielders in the world. The ones that are better are playing for Barcelona..and Real Madrid..or are at a better club then Chelsea.

    That's exactly what I mean, past his best. His best was round the mid 2000s (specifically 2006-07), I highly doubt he can replicate that form again, but he can still be a great player.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 11:29 am

    Marvin wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:I think he is past it and so inury prone he's not worth the wages. Chelsea should buy somebody young like Aguero.
    They will, but they also want Kaka.

    Don't think he's past it either.
    Do you think he can still do things like this?
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    Post by dena Thu May 12, 2011 11:32 am

    The-Reporter wrote:
    Marvin wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:I think he is past it and so inury prone he's not worth the wages. Chelsea should buy somebody young like Aguero.
    They will, but they also want Kaka.

    Don't think he's past it either.
    Do you think he can still do things like this?

    That goal is a bad example, while brilliant, there is no really technical or even physical err... awesomeness shown here. He's pressuring the backline hard, and they fucked up.

    Can he still do this is the question



    EDIT: Watched it again, the chip is brilliant though. Love


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    Post by Marvin Thu May 12, 2011 11:33 am

    The-Reporter wrote:
    Marvin wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:I think he is past it and so inury prone he's not worth the wages. Chelsea should buy somebody young like Aguero.
    They will, but they also want Kaka.

    Don't think he's past it either.
    Do you think he can still do things like this?
    I don't get what that video is suppose to disprove.

    He's still more than capable of doing things like that.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 11:37 am

    Marvin wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:
    Marvin wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:I think he is past it and so inury prone he's not worth the wages. Chelsea should buy somebody young like Aguero.
    They will, but they also want Kaka.

    Don't think he's past it either.
    Do you think he can still do things like this?
    I don't get what that video is suppose to disprove.

    He's still more than capable of doing things like that.
    Disprove? I just asked you a question. Coffee
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    Post by AriseForLife Thu May 12, 2011 11:38 am

    Leaving Messi isn't hard because Messi isn't the fastest either. With
    the ball at his feet he is lightning, but in terms of raw speed, Kaka
    has never possessed Cristiano Ronaldo-like blaze. Kaka has always been
    quick and agile and that is still there.

    kyro7 wrote:Kaka Hints at Chelsea Move - Page 3 58503

    While he had more than pace, his pace was huge to him.

    Are we even talking about the same player? I've seen Kaka hundreds of times and never has his paced amazed me how Henry, Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, Eto'o, or even Walcott moved in terms of raw speed. Now if you are referring to speed with the ball at his feet then that hasn't been lost because he is still quick with the ball at his feet, but if we are talking about pace as in running, then I have to wonder what your definition of speed is because Kaka is not and has never been a speedster.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 11:38 am

    Dena - dont think he'll have the pace for that.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 11:38 am

    The-Reporter wrote:
    Marvin wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:I think he is past it and so inury prone he's not worth the wages. Chelsea should buy somebody young like Aguero.
    They will, but they also want Kaka.

    Don't think he's past it either.
    Do you think he can still do things like this?
    Fuck that goal tbh.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 11:39 am

    AriseForLife wrote:Leaving Messi isn't hard because Messi isn't the fastest either. With
    the ball at his feet he is lightning, but in terms of raw speed, Kaka
    has never possessed Cristiano Ronaldo-like blaze. Kaka has always been
    quick and agile and that is still there.

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    While he had more than pace, his pace was huge to him.

    Are we even talking about the same player? I've seen Kaka hundreds of times and never has his paced amazed me how Henry, Ronaldo, Cristiano Ronaldo, Eto'o, or even Walcott moved in terms of raw speed. Now if you are referring to speed with the ball at his feet then that hasn't been lost because he is still quick with the ball at his feet, but if we are talking about pace as in running, then I have to wonder what your definition of speed is because Kaka is not and has never been a speedster.
    No. Nasri is quick and Agile, as is Arshavin.

    Kaka was fast as hell.
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    Post by Jamie Thu May 12, 2011 11:39 am

    kyro7 wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:
    Marvin wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:I think he is past it and so inury prone he's not worth the wages. Chelsea should buy somebody young like Aguero.
    They will, but they also want Kaka.

    Don't think he's past it either.
    Do you think he can still do things like this?
    Fuck that goal tbh.

    Evra is superawesome
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    Post by AriseForLife Thu May 12, 2011 11:40 am

    dena wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:
    Marvin wrote:
    The-Reporter wrote:I think he is past it and so inury prone he's not worth the wages. Chelsea should buy somebody young like Aguero.
    They will, but they also want Kaka.

    Don't think he's past it either.
    Do you think he can still do things like this?

    That goal is a bad example, while brilliant, there is no really technical or even physical err... awesomeness shown here. He's pressuring the backline hard, and they fucked up.

    Can he still do this is the question



    EDIT: Watched it again, the chip is brilliant though. Kaka Hints at Chelsea Move - Page 3 859644

    If that is the aforementioned speed that The-Reporter is talking about when he said he ran by Messi, then my dead Grandmother could run by Messi as slow as he was moving.

    To answer the question, yes I think he can still do that. Ricardo is still world class in my opinion.

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