Kaka Hints at Chelsea Move

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:It's still a disgrace to say Aguero has capabilities like Kaka..Speed is the only thing Aguero has over Kaka' and nothing else. Just because Kaka hasn't played good amounts this season automatically means Aguero is better? lol.

Yeah but speed isn't the only thing Aguero has over Kaka.

You haven't shown me anything...what can Aguero do that Kaka can't? lol.

Pretty sure I have already said it but anyway:
Speed(pace/acceleration)
Work rate
Dribbling
Finishing
Better technically

Whereas Kaká is more creative, a better passer and more composed.

Better techically and dribbling? this is a joke right? getting injured doesn't mean you lose your techincal abilities. Aguero's dribbling is sometimes shit and he's always running into defenders and he;s better than Kaka at dribbling? better technically? I've not seen Aguero do anything techically good like Kaka' you seriously minimize Kaka don't you remember he was best player in world in 2007? has Aguero ever reached that? no he's still playing for fucking atletico madrid and doesn't even play for country which Kaka would be preferred easily over him.
I will give you the speed aspect and workrate because Kaka doesn't need to do all that to be better. Aguero is certainly inferior in things like aerial battles, strenght, etc and I'd rather have someone more creative, better composed and is very intelligent on the ball than someone who is just fast and can shoot...Aguero is not special like Kaka you rarely find a player like Kaka but there are loads of players like Aguero.

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

Yeah but speed isn't the only thing Aguero has over Kaka.

You haven't shown me anything...what can Aguero do that Kaka can't? lol.

Pretty sure I have already said it but anyway:
Speed(pace/acceleration)
Work rate
Dribbling
Finishing
Better technically

Whereas Kaká is more creative, a better passer and more composed.

Better techically and dribbling? this is a joke right? getting injured doesn't mean you lose your techincal abilities. Aguero's dribbling is sometimes shit and he's always running into defenders and he;s better than Kaka at dribbling? better technically? I've not seen Aguero do anything techically good like Kaka' you seriously minimize Kaka don't you remember he was best player in world in 2007? has Aguero ever reached that? no he's still playing for fucking atletico madrid and doesn't even play for country which Kaka would be preferred easily over him.
I will give you the speed aspect and workrate because Kaka doesn't need to do all that to be better. Aguero is certainly inferior in things like aerial battles, strenght, etc and I'd rather have someone more creative, better composed and is very intelligent on the ball than someone who is just fast and can shoot...Aguero is not special like Kaka you rarely find a player like Kaka but there are loads of players like Aguero.

I don't agree with any of this. You don't agree with what I'm saying either so we've reached a dead end I guess.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:
You haven't shown me anything...what can Aguero do that Kaka can't? lol.

Pretty sure I have already said it but anyway:
Speed(pace/acceleration)
Work rate
Dribbling
Finishing
Better technically

Whereas Kaká is more creative, a better passer and more composed.

Better techically and dribbling? this is a joke right? getting injured doesn't mean you lose your techincal abilities. Aguero's dribbling is sometimes shit and he's always running into defenders and he;s better than Kaka at dribbling? better technically? I've not seen Aguero do anything techically good like Kaka' you seriously minimize Kaka don't you remember he was best player in world in 2007? has Aguero ever reached that? no he's still playing for fucking atletico madrid and doesn't even play for country which Kaka would be preferred easily over him.
I will give you the speed aspect and workrate because Kaka doesn't need to do all that to be better. Aguero is certainly inferior in things like aerial battles, strenght, etc and I'd rather have someone more creative, better composed and is very intelligent on the ball than someone who is just fast and can shoot...Aguero is not special like Kaka you rarely find a player like Kaka but there are loads of players like Aguero.

I don't agree with any of this. You don't agree with what I'm saying either so we've reached a dead end I guess.

Well if you can explain which ways Aguero is better than just saying things...but whatever...you make Aguero seem like he's some extra-ordinary player and forgetting how good Kaka was.

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

Pretty sure I have already said it but anyway:
Speed(pace/acceleration)
Work rate
Dribbling
Finishing
Better technically

Whereas Kaká is more creative, a better passer and more composed.

Better techically and dribbling? this is a joke right? getting injured doesn't mean you lose your techincal abilities. Aguero's dribbling is sometimes shit and he's always running into defenders and he;s better than Kaka at dribbling? better technically? I've not seen Aguero do anything techically good like Kaka' you seriously minimize Kaka don't you remember he was best player in world in 2007? has Aguero ever reached that? no he's still playing for fucking atletico madrid and doesn't even play for country which Kaka would be preferred easily over him.
I will give you the speed aspect and workrate because Kaka doesn't need to do all that to be better. Aguero is certainly inferior in things like aerial battles, strenght, etc and I'd rather have someone more creative, better composed and is very intelligent on the ball than someone who is just fast and can shoot...Aguero is not special like Kaka you rarely find a player like Kaka but there are loads of players like Aguero.

I don't agree with any of this. You don't agree with what I'm saying either so we've reached a dead end I guess.

Well if you can explain which ways Aguero is better than just saying things...but whatever...you make Aguero seem like he's some extra-ordinary player and forgetting how good Kaka was.

I'm not forgetting how good Kaka was. I'm comparing them right now and I think you underrate Aguero.

You say he only plays for Atlético as if Chelsea and Real Madrid haven't tried to sign him for years, that's just unfair criticism of him. It's not his fault he's carrying the team.

19Jones19v wrote:Kaka in his prime > Aguero regardless of how good he becomes

Fine Shagger wrote:I've changed my opinion, you don't underrate Aguero you overrate Kaká. Who even at his best couldn't compete with other top brazilians technically. It's his athleticism that brought him to the top level, not his technical attributes. They are still fantastic I admit but they aren't unreachable.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:I've changed my opinion, you don't underrate Aguero you overrate Kaká. Who even at his best couldn't compete with other top brazilians technically. It's his athleticism that brought him to the top level, not his technical attributes. They are still fantastic I admit but they aren't unreachable.

I can't believe you just said this fine shagger. Athleticism? athleticism got him to the top? hell no. In sao paulo Kaka was one of the best skilled players in brazil right before the world cup..maybe he didn't use like step-over etc but his close ball control was amazing and he beat players with ease. When Kaka was at the top of the woorld in 2007 the only player he couldn't compete with technically wise was dinho others where well behind him. there was nothing he couldn't do. I remeber around that year too..Adriano claimed Kaka to be his footbally idol.
I don't care if they weren't unreachable but Aguero is not there at kaka's techical level. Who were the other brazilians he couldn't compete with techical wise during that time? Only Ronaldinho outclassed Kaka technically in Brazil during his top years.

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:I've changed my opinion, you don't underrate Aguero you overrate Kaká. Who even at his best couldn't compete with other top brazilians technically. It's his athleticism that brought him to the top level, not his technical attributes. They are still fantastic I admit but they aren't unreachable.

I can't believe you just said this fine shagger. Athleticism? athleticism got him to the top? hell no. In sao paulo Kaka was one of the best skilled players in brazil right before the world cup..maybe he didn't use like step-over etc but his close ball control was amazing and he beat players with ease. When Kaka was at the top of the woorld in 2007 the only player he couldn't compete with technically wise was dinho others where well behind him. there was nothing he couldn't do. I remeber around that year too..Adriano claimed Kaka to be his footbally idol.
I don't care if they weren't unreachable but Aguero is not there at kaka's techical level. Who were the other brazilians he couldn't compete with techical wise during that time? Only Ronaldinho outclassed Kaka technically in Brazil during his top years.

Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Rivaldo...to name 3 recent examples.

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:I've changed my opinion, you don't underrate Aguero you overrate Kaká. Who even at his best couldn't compete with other top brazilians technically. It's his athleticism that brought him to the top level, not his technical attributes. They are still fantastic I admit but they aren't unreachable.

I can't believe you just said this fine shagger. Athleticism? athleticism got him to the top? hell no. In sao paulo Kaka was one of the best skilled players in brazil right before the world cup..maybe he didn't use like step-over etc but his close ball control was amazing and he beat players with ease. When Kaka was at the top of the woorld in 2007 the only player he couldn't compete with technically wise was dinho others where well behind him. there was nothing he couldn't do. I remeber around that year too..Adriano claimed Kaka to be his footbally idol.
I don't care if they weren't unreachable but Aguero is not there at kaka's techical level. Who were the other brazilians he couldn't compete with techical wise during that time? Only Ronaldinho outclassed Kaka technically in Brazil during his top years.

Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Rivaldo...to name 3 recent examples.

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chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:I've changed my opinion, you don't underrate Aguero you overrate Kaká. Who even at his best couldn't compete with other top brazilians technically. It's his athleticism that brought him to the top level, not his technical attributes. They are still fantastic I admit but they aren't unreachable.

I can't believe you just said this fine shagger. Athleticism? athleticism got him to the top? hell no. In sao paulo Kaka was one of the best skilled players in brazil right before the world cup..maybe he didn't use like step-over etc but his close ball control was amazing and he beat players with ease. When Kaka was at the top of the woorld in 2007 the only player he couldn't compete with technically wise was dinho others where well behind him. there was nothing he couldn't do. I remeber around that year too..Adriano claimed Kaka to be his footbally idol.
I don't care if they weren't unreachable but Aguero is not there at kaka's techical level. Who were the other brazilians he couldn't compete with techical wise during that time? Only Ronaldinho outclassed Kaka technically in Brazil during his top years.

Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Rivaldo...to name 3 recent examples.

For your info, After Rivaldo left Milan at 32 he was on pure decline and I'm taking 06 upwards. When Kaka played with Ronaldo at Milan it's a hard one because Ronaldo was completely outshined by Kaka in Milan but previously (2-3 years before) Ronaldo was above everyone. And Ronaldo began into decline after shit wc in 06 and was no longer brazil top player.

So that remains only Dinho. Anymore?

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:I've changed my opinion, you don't underrate Aguero you overrate Kaká. Who even at his best couldn't compete with other top brazilians technically. It's his athleticism that brought him to the top level, not his technical attributes. They are still fantastic I admit but they aren't unreachable.

I can't believe you just said this fine shagger. Athleticism? athleticism got him to the top? hell no. In sao paulo Kaka was one of the best skilled players in brazil right before the world cup..maybe he didn't use like step-over etc but his close ball control was amazing and he beat players with ease. When Kaka was at the top of the woorld in 2007 the only player he couldn't compete with technically wise was dinho others where well behind him. there was nothing he couldn't do. I remeber around that year too..Adriano claimed Kaka to be his footbally idol.
I don't care if they weren't unreachable but Aguero is not there at kaka's techical level. Who were the other brazilians he couldn't compete with techical wise during that time? Only Ronaldinho outclassed Kaka technically in Brazil during his top years.

Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Rivaldo...to name 3 recent examples.

So that remains only Dinho. Anymore?

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:I've changed my opinion, you don't underrate Aguero you overrate Kaká. Who even at his best couldn't compete with other top brazilians technically. It's his athleticism that brought him to the top level, not his technical attributes. They are still fantastic I admit but they aren't unreachable.

I can't believe you just said this fine shagger. Athleticism? athleticism got him to the top? hell no. In sao paulo Kaka was one of the best skilled players in brazil right before the world cup..maybe he didn't use like step-over etc but his close ball control was amazing and he beat players with ease. When Kaka was at the top of the woorld in 2007 the only player he couldn't compete with technically wise was dinho others where well behind him. there was nothing he couldn't do. I remeber around that year too..Adriano claimed Kaka to be his footbally idol.
I don't care if they weren't unreachable but Aguero is not there at kaka's techical level. Who were the other brazilians he couldn't compete with techical wise during that time? Only Ronaldinho outclassed Kaka technically in Brazil during his top years.

Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Rivaldo...to name 3 recent examples.

For your info, After Rivaldo left Milan at 32 he was on pure decline and I'm taking 06 upwards. When Kaka played with Ronaldo at Milan it's a hard one because Ronaldo was completely outshined by Kaka in Milan but previously (2-3 years before) Ronaldo was above everyone. And Ronaldo began into decline after shit wc in 06 and was no longer brazil top player.

So that remains only Dinho. Anymore?

Remains only Dinho? I'm talking about those players at their prime, not what they were like when Kaká was at his best.

I'm done with this argument though because we'll never agree.

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

Fine Shagger wrote:

chiboygeorge wrote:

I can't believe you just said this fine shagger. Athleticism? athleticism got him to the top? hell no. In sao paulo Kaka was one of the best skilled players in brazil right before the world cup..maybe he didn't use like step-over etc but his close ball control was amazing and he beat players with ease. When Kaka was at the top of the woorld in 2007 the only player he couldn't compete with technically wise was dinho others where well behind him. there was nothing he couldn't do. I remeber around that year too..Adriano claimed Kaka to be his footbally idol.
I don't care if they weren't unreachable but Aguero is not there at kaka's techical level. Who were the other brazilians he couldn't compete with techical wise during that time? Only Ronaldinho outclassed Kaka technically in Brazil during his top years.

Ronaldinho, Ronaldo, Rivaldo...to name 3 recent examples.

For your info, After Rivaldo left Milan at 32 he was on pure decline and I'm taking 06 upwards. When Kaka played with Ronaldo at Milan it's a hard one because Ronaldo was completely outshined by Kaka in Milan but previously (2-3 years before) Ronaldo was above everyone. And Ronaldo began into decline after shit wc in 06 and was no longer brazil top player.

So that remains only Dinho. Anymore?

Remains only Dinho? I'm talking about those players at their prime, not what they were like when Kaká was at his best.

I'm done with this argument though because we'll never agree.

Re-read your post earlier, you said Kaka can't compete with top Brazilians when he was at his best.

luke. wrote:Torres also tends to drift out wide, but that's because we're shit and can't play him through balls so he has to go wide to actually get a touch.