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    Post by Jamie Thu May 12, 2011 12:34 pm

    polska. wrote:
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    polska. wrote:
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    polska. wrote:People are suggesting Aguero over Kaka here, and the whole argument is about comparing Aguero and Kaka despite them being two very different players.

    People probably think Aguero plays in the middle and acts as a playmaking offensive player like Kaka or something. Rolling Eyes

    Too me Aguero is a physically adept, fast winger with great technical ability who can cut inside.

    A winger?

    WHAT THE FUCK? rofl
    Ok, that's it, conversation over. Can't be bothered. Rolling Eyes

    Chiboy is right, there are better comparisons than Henry, Hulk is a good one. Suarez at Ajax perhaps.

    Can't be bothered because Aguero never plays on the wing I hope Laughing


    --------ST---------X
    --------AMC-------Winger
    --------MC---------Wide Fielder

    X = where Aguero plays.

    Except Aguero would play ST in that diagram and Forlán(when in the 11) would play as AMC or slightly more advanced.

    You really do base everything on FM don't you?
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    Post by chiboygeorge Thu May 12, 2011 12:34 pm

    Fine Shagger wrote:
    polska. wrote:
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    polska. wrote:
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    Who said that? He's the most advanced striker but he is still obviously better than Kaká.
    People are suggesting Aguero over Kaka here, and the whole argument is about comparing Aguero and Kaka despite them being two very different players.

    People probably think Aguero plays in the middle and acts as a playmaking offensive player like Kaka or something. Rolling Eyes

    Too me Aguero is a physically adept, fast winger with great technical ability who can cut inside.

    A winger?

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    Ok, that's it, conversation over. Can't be bothered. Rolling Eyes

    Chiboy is right, there are better comparisons than Henry, Hulk is a good one. Suarez at Ajax perhaps.

    Can't be bothered because Aguero never plays on the wing I hope Laughing
    Never?
    He has on someoccasions.
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    Post by Marvin Thu May 12, 2011 12:35 pm

    Lets not get into another Arise like debate. shifty
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 12:36 pm

    What is the reason behind your DP Marvin?
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    Post by Fanatic Thu May 12, 2011 12:36 pm

    How can he say Kaka didn't have pace? facepalm
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    Post by Jamie Thu May 12, 2011 12:37 pm

    chiboygeorge wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:
    polska. wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:
    polska. wrote:People are suggesting Aguero over Kaka here, and the whole argument is about comparing Aguero and Kaka despite them being two very different players.

    People probably think Aguero plays in the middle and acts as a playmaking offensive player like Kaka or something. Rolling Eyes

    Too me Aguero is a physically adept, fast winger with great technical ability who can cut inside.

    A winger?

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    Ok, that's it, conversation over. Can't be bothered. Rolling Eyes

    Chiboy is right, there are better comparisons than Henry, Hulk is a good one. Suarez at Ajax perhaps.

    Can't be bothered because Aguero never plays on the wing I hope Laughing
    Never?
    He has on someoccasions.

    Plays, not played. He doesn't any more and hasn't for a number of seasons.

    Well for Atlético, don't know about Argentina.
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    Post by Dean Thu May 12, 2011 12:37 pm

    Keep going lads, enjoying this. I'll take a back seat on this one.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 12:41 pm

    Fine Shagger wrote:
    polska. wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:
    polska. wrote:
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    A winger?

    WHAT THE FUCK? rofl
    Ok, that's it, conversation over. Can't be bothered. Rolling Eyes

    Chiboy is right, there are better comparisons than Henry, Hulk is a good one. Suarez at Ajax perhaps.

    Can't be bothered because Aguero never plays on the wing I hope Laughing


    --------ST---------X
    --------AMC-------Winger
    --------MC---------Wide Fielder

    X = where Aguero plays.

    Except Aguero would play ST in that diagram and Forlán(when in the 11) would play as AMC or slightly more advanced.

    You really do base everything on FM don't you?
    facepalm

    Players are not static on the field. They move around. I don't follow Atletico, but doesn't Elias play on the right? He is too defensive minded and thus Aguero is the main attacking outlet on the right.

    If you think I am basing this on Fm, then fuck off.
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    Post by Marvin Thu May 12, 2011 12:43 pm

    Scott wrote:What is the reason behind your DP Marvin?
    No reason, I just liked it.
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    Post by Fanatic Thu May 12, 2011 12:45 pm

    polska. wrote:In my opinion Kaka's pace wasn't a major part of his game. It's not exactly hard to sprint for a little bit, any professional footballer can do it. Kaka definitely does not have the immense nonstop pace that other players had.

    What Kaka excelled at was his other parts of his games, his intelligence on the pitch, his passing and creativity, his ability to beat his man, etc. Perfect for midfield battles, perfect for Serie A.

    I don't think Kaka is much better suited for the EPL than he is for La Liga. He is a Serie A player through and through.


    Interesting what you would call this.

    Rolling Eyes

    Thats not just one example where he's exhibited pace, it's a numerous amount of times.
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    Post by Jamie Thu May 12, 2011 12:50 pm

    polska. wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:
    polska. wrote:
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    polska. wrote:Ok, that's it, conversation over. Can't be bothered. Rolling Eyes

    Chiboy is right, there are better comparisons than Henry, Hulk is a good one. Suarez at Ajax perhaps.

    Can't be bothered because Aguero never plays on the wing I hope Laughing


    --------ST---------X
    --------AMC-------Winger
    --------MC---------Wide Fielder

    X = where Aguero plays.

    Except Aguero would play ST in that diagram and Forlán(when in the 11) would play as AMC or slightly more advanced.

    You really do base everything on FM don't you?
    facepalm

    Players are not static on the field. They move around. I don't follow Atletico, but doesn't Elias play on the right? He is too defensive minded and thus Aguero is the main attacking outlet on the right.

    If you think I am basing this on Fm, then fuck off.

    You don't follow Atlético but you think you know where Aguero plays?

    Reyes plays on the right most of the time.
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    Post by Guest Thu May 12, 2011 3:41 pm

    Reyes has been injured, no?
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    Post by Jamie Fri May 13, 2011 1:39 am

    polska. wrote:Reyes has been injured, no?

    He's started 32 league games out of a possible 36 facepalm facepalm facepalm facepalm

    Seriously Polska enough of this fucking bullshitting you do, pretending to be an expert because I'm tired of making you look like a fool.
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    Post by Guest Fri May 13, 2011 1:46 am

    Laughing
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    Post by Guest Fri May 13, 2011 3:29 am

    Ok, I was under the impression he was injured since February or something. Laughing



    Still, means fuck all of what I am trying to say. Aguero moves towards the right during games. It's tactics.
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    Post by Jamie Fri May 13, 2011 3:31 am

    polska. wrote:Ok, I was under the impression he was injured since February or something. Laughing



    Still, means fuck all of what I am trying to say. Aguero moves towards the right during games. It's tactics.

    Rooney drifts but he's not a winger. Hernandez drifts, not a winger. Tevez drifts, not a winger.

    See where I'm going with this?
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    Post by luke. Fri May 13, 2011 3:32 am

    Torres also tends to drift out wide, but that's because we're shit and can't play him through balls so he has to go wide to actually get a touch.
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    Post by Jamie Fri May 13, 2011 3:34 am

    Very few strikers stay centrally these days really, doesn't make them wingers though Laughing
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    Post by Guest Fri May 13, 2011 3:38 am

    Fair enough, but from what I remember of Atletico, Aguero stays most of the game drifted outwards, until the rest of them get near the box where he cuts in. It's how they countered I remember.

    If Atletico has changed this season then fair enough. I have only watched them 2 or 3 times this season compared to last season.
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    Post by Jamie Fri May 13, 2011 3:41 am

    polska. wrote:Fair enough, but from what I remember of Atletico, Aguero stays most of the game drifted outwards, until the rest of them get near the box where he cuts in. It's how they countered I remember.

    If Atletico has changed this season then fair enough. I have only watched them 2 or 3 times this season compared to last season.

    Not at all, even last season. Forlán drops into midfield while Aguero is almost always the most advanced player in central areas, ready to break the offside trap if the opportunity arises.
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    Post by dena Fri May 13, 2011 3:48 am

    Polska always gets shut down when discussing non-Polish matters, probably knows fuck all about Poland too but because no one cares he gets away with it. hehe
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    Post by luke. Fri May 13, 2011 3:49 am

    Aguero's 2 goals vs Chelsea last season Love
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    Post by Guest Fri May 13, 2011 3:54 am

    dena wrote:Polska always gets shut down when discussing non-Polish matters, probably knows fuck all about Poland too but because no one cares he gets away with it. hehe
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    Post by Guest Fri May 13, 2011 4:00 am

    In all seriousness I've explained myself horribly here in regards to Aguero. What I was trying to say is that he has the skills of an inside forward type striker, whilst others wanted to compare him to Kaka for some reason.

    @Dena, I don't pretend to know about other Polish clubs, I know as much about them as the English people here know about other EPL clubs. I support Wisla Krakow and that's it.


    I don't always get shut down, as anyone who follows the Arsenal thread can say, though i've been having some bad argument luck lately. Cry
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    Post by chiboygeorge Fri May 13, 2011 7:21 am

    It's still a disgrace to say Aguero has capabilities like Kaka..Speed is the only thing Aguero has over Kaka' and nothing else. Just because Kaka hasn't played good amounts this season automatically means Aguero is better? lol.
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    Post by Jamie Fri May 13, 2011 7:26 am

    chiboygeorge wrote:It's still a disgrace to say Aguero has capabilities like Kaka..Speed is the only thing Aguero has over Kaka' and nothing else. Just because Kaka hasn't played good amounts this season automatically means Aguero is better? lol.

    Yeah but speed isn't the only thing Aguero has over Kaka.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Fri May 13, 2011 7:26 am

    lol @ the "Kaka wasn't known for his pace"

    He was known to be one of the fastest 6'1 players but his overall footballing ability meant it wasn't vital to his game
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    Post by chiboygeorge Fri May 13, 2011 7:28 am

    Fine Shagger wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:It's still a disgrace to say Aguero has capabilities like Kaka..Speed is the only thing Aguero has over Kaka' and nothing else. Just because Kaka hasn't played good amounts this season automatically means Aguero is better? lol.

    Yeah but speed isn't the only thing Aguero has over Kaka.
    You haven't shown me anything...what can Aguero do that Kaka can't? lol. Laughing
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    Post by Jamie Fri May 13, 2011 7:31 am

    chiboygeorge wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:It's still a disgrace to say Aguero has capabilities like Kaka..Speed is the only thing Aguero has over Kaka' and nothing else. Just because Kaka hasn't played good amounts this season automatically means Aguero is better? lol.

    Yeah but speed isn't the only thing Aguero has over Kaka.
    You haven't shown me anything...what can Aguero do that Kaka can't? lol. Laughing

    Pretty sure I have already said it but anyway:
    Speed(pace/acceleration)
    Work rate
    Dribbling
    Finishing
    Better technically

    Whereas Kaká is more creative, a better passer and more composed.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Fri May 13, 2011 7:39 am

    Fine Shagger wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:
    Fine Shagger wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:It's still a disgrace to say Aguero has capabilities like Kaka..Speed is the only thing Aguero has over Kaka' and nothing else. Just because Kaka hasn't played good amounts this season automatically means Aguero is better? lol.

    Yeah but speed isn't the only thing Aguero has over Kaka.
    You haven't shown me anything...what can Aguero do that Kaka can't? lol. Laughing

    Pretty sure I have already said it but anyway:
    Speed(pace/acceleration)
    Work rate
    Dribbling
    Finishing
    Better technically

    Whereas Kaká is more creative, a better passer and more composed.
    Better techically and dribbling? this is a joke right? getting injured doesn't mean you lose your techincal abilities. Aguero's dribbling is sometimes shit and he's always running into defenders and he;s better than Kaka at dribbling? better technically? I've not seen Aguero do anything techically good like Kaka' you seriously minimize Kaka don't you remember he was best player in world in 2007? has Aguero ever reached that? no he's still playing for fucking atletico madrid and doesn't even play for country which Kaka would be preferred easily over him.
    I will give you the speed aspect and workrate because Kaka doesn't need to do all that to be better. Aguero is certainly inferior in things like aerial battles, strenght, etc and I'd rather have someone more creative, better composed and is very intelligent on the ball than someone who is just fast and can shoot...Aguero is not special like Kaka you rarely find a player like Kaka but there are loads of players like Aguero.

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