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    Post by dena Mon Mar 14, 2011 2:50 pm

    Watching sky italia, italy really needs to do something to revamp how the product looks, was hoping getting euro 16 would do that, but it went to france.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:35 pm

    It is all about tempo for me. Serie A tends to be alot slower, just like La Liga is. Whereas English football is alot faster and more exciting.

    I guess I prefer counter attacking football.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:40 pm

    mauro=beast wrote:i have the capability of watch all epl games and generally i watch a lot whenever serie a is not on but i always seem to find a pattern, big black defenders and english "warriors" punting the ball like a rugby clearance

    sometimes im even yelling to the tv, why those player so impatient, why they dont pass it to a midfielder, why is it always smashed 50 metres. i can only ever enjoyingw atching big teams player because they have many good players but i just cannot force myself to not say bad words when i watch those stoke teams and wolverhampton. it is not entertainment for me, i can watch a game wiht no shots at goal but as long as the team is connecting passes and recycling possession i will like it, but when i watch those longballs, its just pure dumb football

    im italian anyway so i will always enjoy serie a, but ialso like la liga and bundesliga, i used to watch ligue 1 all the time until they stopped showing it and that is a league with least goals scored in entire europe but the technique and magician player is nice to watch. i also watch copa libertadores when i have nothing else to do and its always nice to watch. i watch some local a-league to but not all the time, quality is not great but is still OK. its just those bottom and midtable epl clubs i havbe no enjoyment watching them play aerial ping pong. those clubs so revolved around money and "surviving the drop" that they try to win by any means which mostly equate to long balls, "tough" player etc

    That is what football has come to. You can't blame clubs for wanting to keep their club alive, even if it means playing unattractive football. For alot of clubs in the Premier League, going down would have a devastating impact if they didn't come straight back up.

    Leeds, Sheff Wed, Charlton, Sheff Utd, Forest, Derby, Watford etc etc etc all have had problems once getting relegated.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Mon Mar 14, 2011 8:44 pm

    The Premiership reminds me good 'ole FIFA '94. The passing function on that version sucked ass, so you just had to hoof it everytime you got the ball. It wasn't very sophisticated. It was arcadish, but it was a lot more fun than the contemporary versions of the game.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:21 pm

    mauro=beast wrote:i have the capability of watch all epl games and
    generally i watch a lot whenever serie a is not on but i always seem to
    find a pattern, big black defenders and english "warriors" punting the
    ball like a rugby clearance

    sometimes im even yelling to the tv,
    why those player so impatient, why they dont pass it to a midfielder,
    why is it always smashed 50 metres. i can only ever enjoyingw atching
    big teams player because they have many good players but i just cannot
    force myself to not say bad words when i watch those stoke teams and
    wolverhampton. it is not entertainment for me, i can watch a game wiht
    no shots at goal but as long as the team is connecting passes and
    recycling possession i will like it, but when i watch those longballs,
    its just pure dumb football

    im italian anyway so i will always
    enjoy serie a, but ialso like la liga and bundesliga, i used to watch
    ligue 1 all the time until they stopped showing it and that is a league
    with least goals scored in entire europe but the technique and magician
    player is nice to watch. i also watch copa libertadores when i have
    nothing else to do and its always nice to watch. i watch some local
    a-league to but not all the time, quality is not great but is still OK.
    its just those bottom and midtable epl clubs i havbe no enjoyment
    watching them play aerial ping pong. those clubs so revolved around
    money and "surviving the drop" that they try to win by any means which
    mostly equate to long balls, "tough" player etc
    Mauro summed it
    up for me.

    Watching Serie A you really get entertained through watching teams play.
    I get entertained by the intelligent moving, the connected passing and
    the possession changing every 30 seconds. Whilst watching the EPL, it
    feels like the game has a short-attention span and must boot the ball up
    to get something happening quickly, though unintelligently. What pisses
    me off is that even teams like Tottenham who have tried to atleast make
    longball 'aerial pingpong' work, can't even do it intelligently like a
    true longball side like Bilbao can. Longballs are alright, just another
    tactic, IF DONE CORRECTLY and INTELLIGENTLY. Not like dumb caveman
    booting it up 50 meters for the possibility of your striker beating his
    man and getting it for 90 minutes.

    dena wrote:Problem is, 'slow' is not a good adjective to describe Serie A "slower" when used to compare to other leagues is alright to me, but slow... no. Goals are a tough thing to judge anything on, but when you look at attacking moves, and goals, and things like that, how can you call it slow.



    That goal took incredible speed of mind, feet, and play. I just can't see how some can generalize.
    James ♠ wrote:It is all about tempo for me. Serie A tends to be alot
    slower, just like La Liga is. Whereas English football is alot faster
    and more exciting.

    I guess I prefer counter attacking football.

    Oh yah, and this is another thing. SERIE A IS NOT SLOW. It is only has a slow tempo in the midfield where the genius in tactics and individual brilliance takes place. Once a team outdoes the other they make a quick break away. Many players in Serie A have insane speeds, Krasic, Vargas, Lavezzi, Marchionni, Sanchez and a host of other attacking players are very very fast. For me Serie A is brilliant because of this, it is entertaining watching teams defend, fight in the midfield and attack. For me it seems like I said, to watch a lower EPL side, you need to have a small attention span to get excited at watching. Anyway that is what I think of the two leagues.

    Perhaps the idea of EPL being more exciting is because things move quicker up and down the pitch. For me, Serie A is exciting in a different kind of way, with action in all areas of the pitch.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:27 pm

    polska. wrote:
    mauro=beast wrote:i have the capability of watch all epl games and
    generally i watch a lot whenever serie a is not on but i always seem to
    find a pattern, big black defenders and english "warriors" punting the
    ball like a rugby clearance

    sometimes im even yelling to the tv,
    why those player so impatient, why they dont pass it to a midfielder,
    why is it always smashed 50 metres. i can only ever enjoyingw atching
    big teams player because they have many good players but i just cannot
    force myself to not say bad words when i watch those stoke teams and
    wolverhampton. it is not entertainment for me, i can watch a game wiht
    no shots at goal but as long as the team is connecting passes and
    recycling possession i will like it, but when i watch those longballs,
    its just pure dumb football

    im italian anyway so i will always
    enjoy serie a, but ialso like la liga and bundesliga, i used to watch
    ligue 1 all the time until they stopped showing it and that is a league
    with least goals scored in entire europe but the technique and magician
    player is nice to watch. i also watch copa libertadores when i have
    nothing else to do and its always nice to watch. i watch some local
    a-league to but not all the time, quality is not great but is still OK.
    its just those bottom and midtable epl clubs i havbe no enjoyment
    watching them play aerial ping pong. those clubs so revolved around
    money and "surviving the drop" that they try to win by any means which
    mostly equate to long balls, "tough" player etc
    Mauro summed it
    up for me.

    Watching Serie A you really get entertained through watching teams play.
    I get entertained by the intelligent moving, the connected passing and
    the possession changing every 30 seconds. Whilst watching the EPL, it
    feels like the game has a short-attention span and must boot the ball up
    to get something happening quickly, though unintelligently. What pisses
    me off is that even teams like Tottenham who have tried to atleast make
    longball 'aerial pingpong' work, can't even do it intelligently like a
    true longball side like Bilbao can. Longballs are alright, just another
    tactic, IF DONE CORRECTLY and INTELLIGENTLY. Not like dumb caveman
    booting it up 50 meters for the possibility of your striker beating his
    man and getting it for 90 minutes.

    dena wrote:Problem is, 'slow' is not a good adjective to describe Serie A "slower" when used to compare to other leagues is alright to me, but slow... no. Goals are a tough thing to judge anything on, but when you look at attacking moves, and goals, and things like that, how can you call it slow.



    That goal took incredible speed of mind, feet, and play. I just can't see how some can generalize.
    James ♠ wrote:It is all about tempo for me. Serie A tends to be alot
    slower, just like La Liga is. Whereas English football is alot faster
    and more exciting.

    I guess I prefer counter attacking football.

    Oh yah, and this is another thing. SERIE A IS NOT SLOW. It is only has a slow tempo in the midfield where the genius in tactics and individual brilliance takes place. Once a team outdoes the other they make a quick break away. Many players in Serie A have insane speeds, Krasic, Vargas, Lavezzi, Marchionni, Sanchez and a host of other attacking players are very very fast. For me Serie A is brilliant because of this, it is entertaining watching teams defend, fight in the midfield and attack. For me it seems like I said, to watch a lower EPL side, you need to have a small attention span to get excited at watching. Anyway that is what I think of the two leagues.

    Perhaps the idea of EPL being more exciting is because things move quicker up and down the pitch. For me, Serie A is exciting in a different kind of way, with action in all areas of the pitch.

    That is the reason I find it more exciting. This doesn't mean I enjoy long ball... Quick counter attacks where passes are made along the floor are what I like, and this does happen despite what you foreigners seem to think.

    West Brom(before Hodgson) Wigan, Bolton try to play like that. Wolves have changed from the hoof it team they where last year. Blackpool play quick passing football.

    You tell us to stop stereotyping the Serie A when you foreigners do the exact same thing to the Premier League.
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    Post by Guest Mon Mar 14, 2011 10:36 pm

    Oh no, I don't think many of us denied some teams play like that. We were just generalizing for the sake of making a point. Razz

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    Post by Fanatic Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:25 am

    I will generalise the league because from what I have seen (a range of teams from Bari and Brescia to Milan and Inter) the matches were absolutely dire. I found the tactics very negative and the intensity of the match leaves a lot to be desired. It's a wearisome league, imo.
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    Post by Fanatic Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:37 am

    Btw, I love how people are sugar coating Serie A's negative tactics by calling it intelligent play. LOL.

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    Post by Kris Tue Mar 15, 2011 12:48 am

    James ♠ wrote:It is all about tempo for me. Serie A tends to be alot slower, just like La Liga is. Whereas English football is alot faster and more exciting.

    I guess I prefer counter attacking football.

    Watch handball. You'd love it.
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    Post by Lux Tue Mar 15, 2011 2:21 am

    Blackpool are actually a pretty good team to watch.

    Try to play passing football but play the ball fast anyway.

    The thing with slow build up play is that it allows the defence to organise themselves....playing quicker football can catch the defence out.
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:42 am

    I like how to some, not booting the ball up = negative play. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:43 am

    polska. wrote:I like how to some, not booting the ball up = negative play. Rolling Eyes

    Keeping the ball around the back and playing a defensive game (which is apparently called a tactical masterclass in Italy) is negative.




    To answer the question. No, it isn't a myth. I don't enjoy it.
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:50 am

    They hardly keep the ball back. Most action happens in the center of the pitch.
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:50 am

    Big difference.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:54 am

    I think it is boring, then again I think every other league but the Greek league, La Liga and the prem are shit
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    Post by Lux Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:17 am

    polska. wrote:They hardly keep the ball back. Most action happens in the center of the pitch.

    At the back or in the middle....don't want to see that the good action is in/around the box.
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    Post by Kuled Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:18 am

    Serie A is an underrated league
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    Post by Fanatic Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:39 am

    polska. wrote:I like how to some, not booting the ball up = negative play. Rolling Eyes
    Where exactly are these people?

    I haven't seen anyone advocating hoofing up the ball as attacking football so please point me to where these people are.
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:48 am

    Luxz0rz wrote:
    polska. wrote:They hardly keep the ball back. Most action happens in the center of the pitch.

    At the back or in the middle....don't want to see that the good action is in/around the box.
    It's not like they keep the ball and pass it around like Barca do. Laughing

    When not in possession, the team fights for it, closing down the opposition tackling etc. Possession changes very quickly and very fast back and forth. It is entertaining.

    Watch Villarreal vs Napoli, (yes I know Villarreal aren't Italian.) They provide a great example of what I mean. The whole game was played as such. It was quite chaotic.

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    polska. wrote:I like how to some, not booting the ball up = negative play. Rolling Eyes
    Where exactly are these people?

    I haven't seen anyone advocating hoofing up the ball as attacking football so please point me to where these people are.
    They haven't, though it does appear as anything other than booting the ball up, and quick Arsenal like passing and counterattacking is negative to some people.

    Besides, I wasn't making a point, just a sad troll attempt. Razz
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    Post by Fanatic Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:50 am

    Fanatic wrote:
    polska. wrote:I like how to some, not booting the ball up = negative play. Rolling Eyes
    Where exactly are these people?

    I haven't seen anyone advocating hoofing up the ball as attacking football so please point me to where these people are.
    They haven't, though it does appear as anything other than booting the ball up, and quick Arsenal like passing and counterattacking is negative to some people.

    Besides, I wasn't making a point, just a sad troll attempt. Razz[/quote]
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    Kuled wrote:Serie A is an underrated league

    The league that arguably has the most successful team ever? If it was more attractable, more people would watch.. but that's not the case
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:54 am

    Tom wrote:
    Kuled wrote:Serie A is an underrated league

    The league that arguably has the most successful team ever? If it was more attractable, more people would watch.. but that's not the case
    If it had better tv deals you mean.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:56 am

    polska. wrote:
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    Kuled wrote:Serie A is an underrated league

    The league that arguably has the most successful team ever? If it was more attractable, more people would watch.. but that's not the case
    If it had better tv deals you mean.

    If it was more attractable it would be better for marketing, if it was better for marketing it would probably suggest more viewers.

    Nice little story I have going on here
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    Post by El Jefe Tue Mar 15, 2011 6:58 am

    People defend Serie A and tell English people not to generalise it at "slow and boring" but at the same time generalise English football as "kick and rush". Hypocrites.
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    Post by Guest Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:00 am

    polska. wrote:
    Tom wrote:
    Kuled wrote:Serie A is an underrated league

    The league that arguably has the most successful team ever? If it was more attractable, more people would watch.. but that's not the case
    If it had better tv deals you mean.

    By being a more attractive league.


    It's no shock Germany have overtaken them. Serie A is in decline.
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    Post by Fanatic Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:00 am

    Bundesliga, now there's a sexy league.


    However, I bet a lot on here who have commented haven't seen a lot of games to make an adequate assessment but are still spouting shit..... think
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:03 am

    I still think the bundesliga is rubbish though, would rather Serie A
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    Post by Fanatic Tue Mar 15, 2011 7:04 am

    Tom wrote:I still think the bundesliga is rubbish though, would rather Serie A
    How many games have you seen?
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    Fanatic wrote:
    Tom wrote:I still think the bundesliga is rubbish though, would rather Serie A
    How many games have you seen?

    I never understand this.

    If he says he finds it boring, obviously enough to know he finds it boring.

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