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Forest wrote:Dan wrote:Forest wrote:Dan wrote:Forest wrote:I'd much rather have Terry in the squad for a World Cup than Bridge, who wouldn't of even got on the pitch anyway as Cole was our best player
That isn't the point though is it? If Cole is out, we've got Baines. Then who do we have to back him up? Gibbs and Warnock. I'd prefer Bridge.
Konchesky
At his level now.
He's good enough for any Premier League team outside the Top 6
Dan wrote:Gibbs never plays.
NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:
Our best captain shouldn't be captaining the squad
Problem with that statistic is, Terry's played the least games.
Say we put Wilshere as captain, he plays two games, we win the both. That means we have a 100% win rate with him as captain. Would that make him the best captain we've ever had?
No, don't be a fucking retard
Hence the, 'of the captains who have played the most games'.
Irrelevant.
You're saying Terry is a better captain than Moore. Terry has captained 18 games and Moore has captained 90 games.. are you surprised that Terry's win% is higher than Moore's?
Seriously, never join a debating society
luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:
Our best captain shouldn't be captaining the squad
Problem with that statistic is, Terry's played the least games.
Say we put Wilshere as captain, he plays two games, we win the both. That means we have a 100% win rate with him as captain. Would that make him the best captain we've ever had?
No, don't be a fucking retard
Hence the, 'of the captains who have played the most games'.
Irrelevant.
You're saying Terry is a better captain than Moore. Terry has captained 18 games and Moore has captained 90 games.. are you surprised that Terry's win% is higher than Moore's?
Seriously, never join a debating society
You're talking like I made the image.
Jesus Christ
anyway, what are we going to do, bring Moore back to captain the team then?
NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:
Problem with that statistic is, Terry's played the least games.
Say we put Wilshere as captain, he plays two games, we win the both. That means we have a 100% win rate with him as captain. Would that make him the best captain we've ever had?
No, don't be a fucking retard
Hence the, 'of the captains who have played the most games'.
Irrelevant.
You're saying Terry is a better captain than Moore. Terry has captained 18 games and Moore has captained 90 games.. are you surprised that Terry's win% is higher than Moore's?
Seriously, never join a debating society
You're talking like I made the image.
Jesus Christ
anyway, what are we going to do, bring Moore back to captain the team then?
No I'm not..
You're basically saying that Terry's the best captain England have had. But he's only captained England in 18 games so we can't compare him to Moore etc. who have played a heck of a lot more games than him
Also, i'm not saying we should try and bring Moore back, I'm just saying, your point is invalid
NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:
Problem with that statistic is, Terry's played the least games.
Say we put Wilshere as captain, he plays two games, we win the both. That means we have a 100% win rate with him as captain. Would that make him the best captain we've ever had?
No, don't be a fucking retard
Hence the, 'of the captains who have played the most games'.
Irrelevant.
You're saying Terry is a better captain than Moore. Terry has captained 18 games and Moore has captained 90 games.. are you surprised that Terry's win% is higher than Moore's?
Seriously, never join a debating society
You're talking like I made the image.
Jesus Christ
anyway, what are we going to do, bring Moore back to captain the team then?
No I'm not..
You're basically saying that Terry's the best captain England have had. But he's only captained England in 18 games so we can't compare him to Moore etc. who have played a heck of a lot more games than him
Also, i'm not saying we should try and bring Moore back, I'm just saying, your point is invalid
luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:
Hence the, 'of the captains who have played the most games'.
Irrelevant.
You're saying Terry is a better captain than Moore. Terry has captained 18 games and Moore has captained 90 games.. are you surprised that Terry's win% is higher than Moore's?
Seriously, never join a debating society
You're talking like I made the image.
Jesus Christ
anyway, what are we going to do, bring Moore back to captain the team then?
No I'm not..
You're basically saying that Terry's the best captain England have had. But he's only captained England in 18 games so we can't compare him to Moore etc. who have played a heck of a lot more games than him
Also, i'm not saying we should try and bring Moore back, I'm just saying, your point is invalid
So Terry is the best captain England have atm.. based on the image.
Dan wrote:luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:
Irrelevant.
You're saying Terry is a better captain than Moore. Terry has captained 18 games and Moore has captained 90 games.. are you surprised that Terry's win% is higher than Moore's?
Seriously, never join a debating society
You're talking like I made the image.
Jesus Christ
anyway, what are we going to do, bring Moore back to captain the team then?
No I'm not..
You're basically saying that Terry's the best captain England have had. But he's only captained England in 18 games so we can't compare him to Moore etc. who have played a heck of a lot more games than him
Also, i'm not saying we should try and bring Moore back, I'm just saying, your point is invalid
So Terry is the best captain England have atm.. based on the image.
That is impossible to tell. If we are basing the best captain on the basis of their win percentage, then we need to give the captain's armband to every member of the squad for a significant number of games. Then we can accurately determine who is the best and most effective captain.
To keep this research fair, they will all captain the side against fairly even sides. So we won't have some captaining against the likes of Andorra and San Marino, as they will more than likely influence an unfair win percentage and will not allow us to determine the best captain based on their win percentage.
blackskar wrote:And you're trying to prove your bullshit point using a bullshit stat.
luke. wrote:Dan wrote:luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:
You're talking like I made the image.
Jesus Christ
anyway, what are we going to do, bring Moore back to captain the team then?
No I'm not..
You're basically saying that Terry's the best captain England have had. But he's only captained England in 18 games so we can't compare him to Moore etc. who have played a heck of a lot more games than him
Also, i'm not saying we should try and bring Moore back, I'm just saying, your point is invalid
So Terry is the best captain England have atm.. based on the image.
That is impossible to tell. If we are basing the best captain on the basis of their win percentage, then we need to give the captain's armband to every member of the squad for a significant number of games. Then we can accurately determine who is the best and most effective captain.
To keep this research fair, they will all captain the side against fairly even sides. So we won't have some captaining against the likes of Andorra and San Marino, as they will more than likely influence an unfair win percentage and will not allow us to determine the best captain based on their win percentage.
You sound like Liam now. Trying to prove some bullshit point based on some other bullshit.
Dan wrote:However, under his captaincy, England failed to qualify for 50% of tournaments entered. One of the worst records as a captain in recent years.
Dan wrote:No, I'm trying to prove how shite your point is.
You say he has the best win percentage. However, under his captaincy, England failed to qualify for 50% of tournaments entered. One of the worst records as a captain in recent years.
Dan wrote:luke. wrote:Dan wrote:luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:
No I'm not..
You're basically saying that Terry's the best captain England have had. But he's only captained England in 18 games so we can't compare him to Moore etc. who have played a heck of a lot more games than him
Also, i'm not saying we should try and bring Moore back, I'm just saying, your point is invalid
So Terry is the best captain England have atm.. based on the image.
That is impossible to tell. If we are basing the best captain on the basis of their win percentage, then we need to give the captain's armband to every member of the squad for a significant number of games. Then we can accurately determine who is the best and most effective captain.
To keep this research fair, they will all captain the side against fairly even sides. So we won't have some captaining against the likes of Andorra and San Marino, as they will more than likely influence an unfair win percentage and will not allow us to determine the best captain based on their win percentage.
You sound like Liam now. Trying to prove some bullshit point based on some other bullshit.
No, I'm trying to prove how shite your point is.
You say he has the best win percentage. However, under his captaincy, England failed to qualify for 50% of tournaments entered. One of the worst records as a captain in recent years.
luke. wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
blackskar wrote:luke. wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
So you can't give the win% credit to Terry then
As he doesn't pick the squad/tactics etc.
blackskar wrote:luke. wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
So you can't give the win% credit to Terry then
As he doesn't pick the squad/tactics etc.
luke. wrote:blackskar wrote:luke. wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
So you can't give the win% credit to Terry then
As he doesn't pick the squad/tactics etc.
But he does have a presence on the pitch.
And if you want to win games, you need players like Terry, especially as your captain.
NGreat wrote:blackskar wrote:luke. wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
So you can't give the win% credit to Terry then
As he doesn't pick the squad/tactics etc.
But are you saying we should bring Steve McLaren back?
No lololololol
NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:blackskar wrote:luke. wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
So you can't give the win% credit to Terry then
As he doesn't pick the squad/tactics etc.
But he does have a presence on the pitch.
And if you want to win games, you need players like Terry, especially as your captain.
Where was his presence during the Euro 2008 qualifiers?
luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:blackskar wrote:luke. wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
So you can't give the win% credit to Terry then
As he doesn't pick the squad/tactics etc.
But are you saying we should bring Steve McLaren back?
No lololololol
Nice way of 'twisting my words' as Dan would put it.
luke. wrote:Dan wrote:luke. wrote:Dan wrote:luke. wrote:
So Terry is the best captain England have atm.. based on the image.
That is impossible to tell. If we are basing the best captain on the basis of their win percentage, then we need to give the captain's armband to every member of the squad for a significant number of games. Then we can accurately determine who is the best and most effective captain.
To keep this research fair, they will all captain the side against fairly even sides. So we won't have some captaining against the likes of Andorra and San Marino, as they will more than likely influence an unfair win percentage and will not allow us to determine the best captain based on their win percentage.
You sound like Liam now. Trying to prove some bullshit point based on some other bullshit.
No, I'm trying to prove how shite your point is.
You say he has the best win percentage. However, under his captaincy, England failed to qualify for 50% of tournaments entered. One of the worst records as a captain in recent years.
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
luke. wrote:NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:blackskar wrote:luke. wrote:
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
So you can't give the win% credit to Terry then
As he doesn't pick the squad/tactics etc.
But he does have a presence on the pitch.
And if you want to win games, you need players like Terry, especially as your captain.
Where was his presence during the Euro 2008 qualifiers?
Not like there weren't 10 other players there to show their presence too.
Oh wait.
Dan wrote:luke. wrote:Dan wrote:luke. wrote:Dan wrote:
That is impossible to tell. If we are basing the best captain on the basis of their win percentage, then we need to give the captain's armband to every member of the squad for a significant number of games. Then we can accurately determine who is the best and most effective captain.
To keep this research fair, they will all captain the side against fairly even sides. So we won't have some captaining against the likes of Andorra and San Marino, as they will more than likely influence an unfair win percentage and will not allow us to determine the best captain based on their win percentage.
You sound like Liam now. Trying to prove some bullshit point based on some other bullshit.
No, I'm trying to prove how shite your point is.
You say he has the best win percentage. However, under his captaincy, England failed to qualify for 50% of tournaments entered. One of the worst records as a captain in recent years.
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
Jesus christ Luke. Use that head of yours.
I posted a deliberately shit stat, it's about as useful as yours. Because yours is shit.
Like you said, Terry doesn't pick the team, the tactics. So why should win percentage come into it?
Anyway, if he publically endorsed the sacking of a manager, it's not very good leadership material is it?
Dan wrote:
Anyway, if he publically endorsed the sacking of a manager, it's not very good leadership material is it?
luke. wrote:Dan wrote:luke. wrote:Dan wrote:luke. wrote:
You sound like Liam now. Trying to prove some bullshit point based on some other bullshit.
No, I'm trying to prove how shite your point is.
You say he has the best win percentage. However, under his captaincy, England failed to qualify for 50% of tournaments entered. One of the worst records as a captain in recent years.
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
Jesus christ Luke. Use that head of yours.
I posted a deliberately shit stat, it's about as useful as yours. Because yours is shit.
Like you said, Terry doesn't pick the team, the tactics. So why should win percentage come into it?
Anyway, if he publically endorsed the sacking of a manager, it's not very good leadership material is it?
Well... it is actually.
luke. wrote:Dan wrote:luke. wrote:Dan wrote:luke. wrote:
You sound like Liam now. Trying to prove some bullshit point based on some other bullshit.
No, I'm trying to prove how shite your point is.
You say he has the best win percentage. However, under his captaincy, England failed to qualify for 50% of tournaments entered. One of the worst records as a captain in recent years.
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
Jesus christ Luke. Use that head of yours.
I posted a deliberately shit stat, it's about as useful as yours. Because yours is shit.
Like you said, Terry doesn't pick the team, the tactics. So why should win percentage come into it?
Anyway, if he publically endorsed the sacking of a manager, it's not very good leadership material is it?
Well... it is actually.
NGreat wrote:luke. wrote:Dan wrote:luke. wrote:Dan wrote:
No, I'm trying to prove how shite your point is.
You say he has the best win percentage. However, under his captaincy, England failed to qualify for 50% of tournaments entered. One of the worst records as a captain in recent years.
Oh yeah, I forgot, it's Terrys job to do the tactics for games, pick the teams etc.
No.
Also, there's been 2 comps since he's been captain. One of them when we had the Wolly with the Brolly in charge, who Terry personally endorsed his sacking. You're trying to shoot me down for using shit stats?
Jesus christ Luke. Use that head of yours.
I posted a deliberately shit stat, it's about as useful as yours. Because yours is shit.
Like you said, Terry doesn't pick the team, the tactics. So why should win percentage come into it?
Anyway, if he publically endorsed the sacking of a manager, it's not very good leadership material is it?
Well... it is actually.
Zing.
Dan's been burnt.
