Should Terry regain the England armband?

Forest wrote:Did Pip really say that?

Yeah.

luke. wrote:

Dan wrote:

luke. wrote:

Dan wrote:

luke. wrote:

Bridge wasn't even in the running for the WC squad anyway, and had barely played before it so it doesn't make much difference, you're just making Terry sound bad to make your argument sound stronger.

Who's a better captain for the Wales game then?

Doesn't matter if he was in the running or not. Point is, if there was an injury, he'd be in. Now, we have to look at other options that might not be as good. You're just trying to belittle my argument because you know it makes sense.

As for Wales. Ferdinand, the current England captain.


I've got a question. Why should Ferdinand lose the captaincy?

Ferdinand won't be fit for Wales.

Also, Cole, Baines, Warnock, Gibbs >>>>>>>>>>>> Bridge.

In your opinion.

Seemingly in Capello's opinion too.

Is it? Considering Gibbs was only called-up after Bridge retired, and one of Warnock's two caps was as a late replacement for Bridge, I don't think it is.

Dan wrote:

luke. wrote:

Dan wrote:

luke. wrote:

Dan wrote:

Doesn't matter if he was in the running or not. Point is, if there was an injury, he'd be in. Now, we have to look at other options that might not be as good. You're just trying to belittle my argument because you know it makes sense.

As for Wales. Ferdinand, the current England captain.


I've got a question. Why should Ferdinand lose the captaincy?

Ferdinand won't be fit for Wales.

Also, Cole, Baines, Warnock, Gibbs >>>>>>>>>>>> Bridge.

In your opinion.

Seemingly in Capello's opinion too.

Is it? Considering Gibbs was only called-up after Bridge retired, and one of Warnock's two caps was as a late replacement for Bridge, I don't think it is.

That's barely concrete evidence Bridge would have been called up.

Especially when Gibbs was called at a time when the media were calling for a 'new generation'

To be the England captain, comes with great responability. Terry blew it, and tarnished our country and national team.

To be a captain is not about winning all the time, its about morals. No cheat should be our captain.

Can't belive am talking to Chelsea fan about morals in football ...

Capello took him out for a reason, he should stick by it. The England armband is not some magical device that endows it's wearer with great leadership, Terry is a good leader with it, I'm sure he's a good leader without it. In the games he's played w/o the armband I'm sure he's still been dictating things on the pitch.

GK01 wrote:

blackskar wrote:

luke. wrote:Yeah, but is Wilshere really captain material at the moment?

I don't think so.

No one in the NT is though really.

Daws

luke. wrote:

Dan wrote:

luke. wrote:

Dan wrote:

luke. wrote:

Ferdinand won't be fit for Wales.

Also, Cole, Baines, Warnock, Gibbs >>>>>>>>>>>> Bridge.

In your opinion.

Seemingly in Capello's opinion too.

Is it? Considering Gibbs was only called-up after Bridge retired, and one of Warnock's two caps was as a late replacement for Bridge, I don't think it is.

That's barely concrete evidence Bridge would have been called up.

Especially when Gibbs was called at a time when the media were calling for a 'new generation'

No, it's evidence that disproves your theory that Capello preferred Gibbs and Warnock. I never said anything about him being called up. Keep twisting my words to add to your argument though..

Dan wrote:

luke. wrote:

Dan wrote:

luke. wrote:

Dan wrote:

In your opinion.

Seemingly in Capello's opinion too.

Is it? Considering Gibbs was only called-up after Bridge retired, and one of Warnock's two caps was as a late replacement for Bridge, I don't think it is.

That's barely concrete evidence Bridge would have been called up.

Especially when Gibbs was called at a time when the media were calling for a 'new generation'

No, it's evidence that disproves your theory that Capello preferred Gibbs and Warnock. I never said anything about him being called up. Keep twisting my words to add to your argument though..

It's not evidence.

If you were to use that as evidence in court it would barely be strong enough to hold a case.

Unless Capello said himself he'd have liked Bridge to come out of retirement.

There was barely any plea from Capello to stop Bridge from retiring IIRC

Ferdinand's good enough, but if I had the choice it would be Terry

luke. wrote:There was barely any plea from Capello to stop Bridge from retiring IIRC

He asked Bridge to come out of it. Pretty sure he even met face to face about it. Bridge said no.


Luke your argument is pure crap just stop.

blackskar wrote:

luke. wrote:There was barely any plea from Capello to stop Bridge from retiring IIRC

He asked Bridge to come out of it. Pretty sure he even met face to face about it. Bridge said no.


Luke your argument is pure crap just stop.

am pretty sure in this. Cappello wanetd Bridge, but Bridge said he won't go if Terry is going.

blackskar wrote:

luke. wrote:There was barely any plea from Capello to stop Bridge from retiring IIRC

He asked Bridge to come out of it. Pretty sure he even met face to face about it. Bridge said no.


Luke your argument is pure crap just stop.

Hence why I said IIRC..

luke. wrote:

blackskar wrote:

luke. wrote:There was barely any plea from Capello to stop Bridge from retiring IIRC

He asked Bridge to come out of it. Pretty sure he even met face to face about it. Bridge said no.


Luke your argument is pure crap just stop.

Hence why I said IIRC..

Which is why I corrected you

Second sentence was just a general statement on your whole Bridge argument.

Let me get this straight..

Bridge breaks up with wife?
Terry cheats on his wife with Bridge's ex wife?

luke. wrote:

Dan wrote:

luke. wrote:

Dan wrote:

luke. wrote:

Seemingly in Capello's opinion too.

Is it? Considering Gibbs was only called-up after Bridge retired, and one of Warnock's two caps was as a late replacement for Bridge, I don't think it is.

That's barely concrete evidence Bridge would have been called up.

Especially when Gibbs was called at a time when the media were calling for a 'new generation'

No, it's evidence that disproves your theory that Capello preferred Gibbs and Warnock. I never said anything about him being called up. Keep twisting my words to add to your argument though..

It's not evidence.

If you were to use that as evidence in court it would barely be strong enough to hold a case.

Unless Capello said himself he'd have liked Bridge to come out of retirement.

There was barely any plea from Capello to stop Bridge from retiring IIRC

You come out with some fucking stupid lines..

Anyway...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/england/7189809/Fabio-Capello-will-speak-to-Wayne-Bridge-if-he-is-selected-for-England-against-Egypt.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2010/article-1255580/Wayne-Bridge-England-needs-Fabio-Capello-refuses-World-Cup-snub.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/8537850.stm

I'd much rather have Terry in the squad for a World Cup than Bridge, who wouldn't of even got on the pitch anyway as Cole was our best player

Forest wrote:I'd much rather have Terry in the squad for a World Cup than Bridge, who wouldn't of even got on the pitch anyway as Cole was our best player

That isn't the point though is it? If Cole is out, we've got Baines. Then who do we have to back him up? Gibbs and Warnock. I'd prefer Bridge.

Tom wrote:Let me get this straight..

Bridge breaks up with wife?
Terry cheats on his wife with Bridge's ex wife?

Bridge was still with the ex, whileTerry did it.

Dan wrote:

Forest wrote:I'd much rather have Terry in the squad for a World Cup than Bridge, who wouldn't of even got on the pitch anyway as Cole was our best player

That isn't the point though is it? If Cole is out, we've got Baines. Then who do we have to back him up? Gibbs and Warnock. I'd prefer Bridge.

Konchesky

LFCJordan wrote:

Tom wrote:Let me get this straight..

Bridge breaks up with wife?
Terry cheats on his wife with Bridge's ex wife?

Bridge was still with the ex, whileTerry did it.

Oh fair enough, was going to tell him to grow a pair

Forest wrote:

Dan wrote:

Forest wrote:I'd much rather have Terry in the squad for a World Cup than Bridge, who wouldn't of even got on the pitch anyway as Cole was our best player

That isn't the point though is it? If Cole is out, we've got Baines. Then who do we have to back him up? Gibbs and Warnock. I'd prefer Bridge.

Konchesky

At his level now.

How can he be the best captain if he hasn't won anything.

luke. wrote:

Our best captain shouldn't be captaining the squad

Problem with that statistic is, Terry's played the least games.
Say we put Wilshere as captain, he plays two games, we win the both. That means we have a 100% win rate with him as captain. Would that make him the best captain we've ever had?

No, don't be a fucking retard

NGreat wrote:

luke. wrote:

Our best captain shouldn't be captaining the squad

Problem with that statistic is, Terry's played the least games.
Say we put Wilshere as captain, he plays two games, we win the both. That means we have a 100% win rate with him as captain. Would that make him the best captain we've ever had?

No, don't be a fucking retard

Hence the, 'of the captains who have played the most games'.

Dan wrote:

Forest wrote:

Dan wrote:

Forest wrote:I'd much rather have Terry in the squad for a World Cup than Bridge, who wouldn't of even got on the pitch anyway as Cole was our best player

That isn't the point though is it? If Cole is out, we've got Baines. Then who do we have to back him up? Gibbs and Warnock. I'd prefer Bridge.

Konchesky

At his level now.

He's good enough for any Premier League team outside the Top 6

I'd give the armband back to Terry......this snubbing of the best natural leader on the pitch is childish. None of the other footballers give a shit about the drama and tbh I don't care either as long as he does the job on the pitch.

Dan wrote:

Forest wrote:I'd much rather have Terry in the squad for a World Cup than Bridge, who wouldn't of even got on the pitch anyway as Cole was our best player

That isn't the point though is it? If Cole is out, we've got Baines. Then who do we have to back him up? Gibbs and Warnock. I'd prefer Bridge.

Bridge is fucking shit I'd definitely rather have Gibbs not only is he a massive talent he's probably better already.

Gibbs

Luxz0rz wrote:I'd give the armband back to Terry......this snubbing of the best natural leader on the pitch is childish. None of the other footballers give a shit about the drama and tbh I don't care either as long as he does the job on the pitch.

Dan wrote:

Forest wrote:I'd much rather have Terry in the squad for a World Cup than Bridge, who wouldn't of even got on the pitch anyway as Cole was our best player

That isn't the point though is it? If Cole is out, we've got Baines. Then who do we have to back him up? Gibbs and Warnock. I'd prefer Bridge.

Bridge is fucking shit I'd definitely rather have Gibbs not only is he a massive talent he's probably better already.

Gibbs never plays.

luke. wrote:

NGreat wrote:

luke. wrote:

Our best captain shouldn't be captaining the squad

Problem with that statistic is, Terry's played the least games.
Say we put Wilshere as captain, he plays two games, we win the both. That means we have a 100% win rate with him as captain. Would that make him the best captain we've ever had?

No, don't be a fucking retard

Hence the, 'of the captains who have played the most games'.

Irrelevant.

You're saying Terry is a better captain than Moore. Terry has captained 18 games and Moore has captained 90 games.. are you surprised that Terry's win% is higher than Moore's?

Seriously, never join a debating society

blackskar wrote:Gibbs

slipped on his arse which led to park's goal.