luke. wrote:coolmarvin wrote:McEachran would surpass Wilshere if given the right chances.
Watch out, I said this and the Arsenal fanboys jumped on me
ATM Wilshere > McEachran > Cleverly.
Future probably McEachran = Wilshere > Cleverly.
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He's almost 18, and Wilshere has only just turned 19. Little over a year between them.mauro wrote:mceachran will be better then wilshere but need more pitch time which will come later
must no forget he is only 17 doesnt even have his own car etc he still just a kid leave him alone
cleverely lol,he is like 4 years older then mceachran and not even as talented
right now wilshere is better then both but perhaps mceachran will surpass in future we will see
Right now I'd say Wilshere > Cleverly > McEachran.
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mceachran would start in wigan team
how can cleverly be consider better? because he start? he is 4 years older and only starting in one of worst team in epl? mceachran would be no problem
how can cleverly be consider better? because he start? he is 4 years older and only starting in one of worst team in epl? mceachran would be no problem
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Re: Tom Cleverley Vs Jack Wilshere Vs Josh Mceachran
by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:17 am
Danny wrote:luke. wrote:coolmarvin wrote:McEachran would surpass Wilshere if given the right chances.
Watch out, I said this and the Arsenal fanboys jumped on me
ATM Wilshere > McEachran > Cleverly.
Future probably McEachran = Wilshere > Cleverly.
Why's that funny, Mceachran playing against newcastle and Zilina was arguably the most technical player there
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Danny wrote:luke. wrote:coolmarvin wrote:McEachran would surpass Wilshere if given the right chances.
Watch out, I said this and the Arsenal fanboys jumped on me
ATM Wilshere > McEachran > Cleverly.
Future probably McEachran = Wilshere > Cleverly.
I've not seen anything of Cleverly so I'm gonna leave him at the bottom for now and not rate him at all after not watching him.
Don't get bitter on me.
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Re: Tom Cleverley Vs Jack Wilshere Vs Josh Mceachran
by blackskar Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:17 am
Wilshere is clearly the best of the 3 right now. And IMO has the most potential out of the 3.
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Just think Cleverley's better. He's been playing week in week out for a year (bar a few injuries) at Watford and Wigan. Was Watford's player of the season, and top scorer, and only signed in January, and has been one of Wigan's best this season. And in our two last pre-seasons he played very well.Tom wrote:Danny wrote:luke. wrote:coolmarvin wrote:McEachran would surpass Wilshere if given the right chances.
Watch out, I said this and the Arsenal fanboys jumped on me
ATM Wilshere > McEachran > Cleverly.
Future probably McEachran = Wilshere > Cleverly.
Why's that funny, Mceachran playing against newcastle and Zilina was arguably the most technical player there
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Technically, he's superior to Wilshere and considering he's younger, I would say that gives him the advantage.Royal wrote:He's almost 18, and Wilshere has only just turned 19. Little over a year between them.mauro wrote:mceachran will be better then wilshere but need more pitch time which will come later
must no forget he is only 17 doesnt even have his own car etc he still just a kid leave him alone
cleverely lol,he is like 4 years older then mceachran and not even as talented
right now wilshere is better then both but perhaps mceachran will surpass in future we will see
Right now I'd say Wilshere > Cleverly > McEachran.
Cleverly is only considered better because he's actually playing games, unlike McEachran.
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Tom wrote:Danny wrote:luke. wrote:coolmarvin wrote:McEachran would surpass Wilshere if given the right chances.
Watch out, I said this and the Arsenal fanboys jumped on me
ATM Wilshere > McEachran > Cleverly.
Future probably McEachran = Wilshere > Cleverly.
Why's that funny, Mceachran playing against newcastle and Zilina was arguably the most technical player there
So at 17 years of age you could have had the highest pass completion rate of of 21 other pro footballers, both playing for Chelsea FC and Marseille respectively? Or did Wilshere do that? Or even Cleverly?
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Yes I know he's 4 years older but when we're talking about who's better right now age isn't a factor. Cleverly was also very good at Watford last year. McEachran has hardly played any first team football.mauro wrote:mceachran would start in wigan team
how can cleverly be consider better? because he start? he is 4 years older and only starting in one of worst team in epl? mceachran would be no problem
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Re: Tom Cleverley Vs Jack Wilshere Vs Josh Mceachran
by blackskar Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:20 am
luke. wrote:Tom wrote:Danny wrote:luke. wrote:coolmarvin wrote:McEachran would surpass Wilshere if given the right chances.
Watch out, I said this and the Arsenal fanboys jumped on me
ATM Wilshere > McEachran > Cleverly.
Future probably McEachran = Wilshere > Cleverly.
Why's that funny, Mceachran playing against newcastle and Zilina was arguably the most technical player there
So at 17 years of age you could have had the highest pass completion rate of of 21 other pro footballers, both playing for Chelsea FC and Marseille respectively? Or did Wilshere do that? Or even Cleverly?
Nah Wilshere's just the one playing week in week out at one of the best clubs in the world, and out performing players much older and more experienced then him. And not just for a handful of games
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Re: Tom Cleverley Vs Jack Wilshere Vs Josh Mceachran
by moscowmadeit3 Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:21 am
At the moment - Wilshire > Cleverley > McEachran
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blackskar wrote:luke. wrote:Tom wrote:Danny wrote:luke. wrote:
Watch out, I said this and the Arsenal fanboys jumped on me
ATM Wilshere > McEachran > Cleverly.
Future probably McEachran = Wilshere > Cleverly.
Why's that funny, Mceachran playing against newcastle and Zilina was arguably the most technical player there
So at 17 years of age you could have had the highest pass completion rate of of 21 other pro footballers, both playing for Chelsea FC and Marseille respectively? Or did Wilshere do that? Or even Cleverly?
Nah Wilshere's just the one playing week in week out at one of the best clubs in the world, and out performing players much older and more experienced then him. And not just for a handful of games
You've completely transformed the argument here anyway. I already said Wilshere is currently better but in future it looks as if McEachran may surpass him.
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Dunno why everyone is talking about now, the OP clearly means in the future. 
Of course Wilshere is better now.
Of course Wilshere is better now.
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training in chelsea first team is superior then playing for watford
yes i just said this!
but mceachran already play 12 or 13 game this season at 17? this is not consider good for one of best clubs in world? im sure if cleverly was in chelsea he would be play in reserves mostly
yes i just said this!
but mceachran already play 12 or 13 game this season at 17? this is not consider good for one of best clubs in world? im sure if cleverly was in chelsea he would be play in reserves mostly
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Re: Tom Cleverley Vs Jack Wilshere Vs Josh Mceachran
by blackskar Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:28 am
mauro wrote:training in chelsea first team is superior then playing for watford
yes i just said this!
but mceachran already play 12 or 13 game this season at 17? this is not consider good for one of best clubs in world? im sure if cleverly was in chelsea he would be play in reserves mostly
I'd say regular 1st team football at a championship side in one of the most competitive leagues in the world is better then training with the Chelsea 1st team and playing a handful of games a season. But that's just me
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I disagree with your first comment, if that was the case they would loan younger players out would they? Young players need match experience, something which Cleverly has much more of than McEachran, which is obviously down to age but you said McEachran is better than Cleverly atm.mauro wrote:training in chelsea first team is superior then playing for watford
yes i just said this!
but mceachran already play 12 or 13 game this season at 17? this is not consider good for one of best clubs in world? im sure if cleverly was in chelsea he would be play in reserves mostly
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Tom Cleverly is 21, Wilshere is 19 and is already showing more ability. So how will Cleverly be better in the future? Imo the contest is only between Mceachran and Wilshere.
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Jord wrote:Tom Cleverly is 21, Wilshere is 19 and is already showing more ability. So how will Cleverly be better in the future? Imo the contest is only between Mceachran and Wilshere.
It goes in twos.
McEachran 17
Wilshere 19
Cleverly 21
McEachrans birthday is in April I think btw, for whoever asked above.
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Wiki says 1st March, Wilshere only turned 19 1st January. Only a year and 2 months between them.luke. wrote:Jord wrote:Tom Cleverly is 21, Wilshere is 19 and is already showing more ability. So how will Cleverly be better in the future? Imo the contest is only between Mceachran and Wilshere.
It goes in twos.
McEachran 17
Wilshere 19
Cleverly 21
McEachrans birthday is in April I think btw, for whoever asked above.
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Me and my biasedness agreeJay.Davies11 wrote:Suso
Pacheco > Cleverly
Suso > Cleverly
Wilshere > Every youngster in England
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Wilshere > Shelvey > McEachran = Cleverley
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imo.
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like i alredy say...lets put things in perspective....if mceachran joined wigan he would start no question....but would cleverly be infront or behind mceachran? i will say behind because mceachran simply looks better now and most important, better in the future
of course first team experience is important, this is why chelsea loan those fellow u21 international players around in champion and epl like mancienne,cork,bertrand etc
but mceachran already skipped infront of all of those,chelsea already said they will never loan out mceachran this season or next,obvious to them they see if he train and play with chelsea first team is better then loans for player of that ability
and loan to championship im no see how benefit this is for mceachran? he will be kicked everywhere and will not even be allow to play triangles
he already boss against french champions and never looked out of place in chelsea team,infact he always looks better then the other chelsea player when he is in that team, what will championship offer to him or even loan to lowly premier league team?
mceachran will be first 11 player in 2 years,if not i will learn english
of course first team experience is important, this is why chelsea loan those fellow u21 international players around in champion and epl like mancienne,cork,bertrand etc
but mceachran already skipped infront of all of those,chelsea already said they will never loan out mceachran this season or next,obvious to them they see if he train and play with chelsea first team is better then loans for player of that ability
and loan to championship im no see how benefit this is for mceachran? he will be kicked everywhere and will not even be allow to play triangles
he already boss against french champions and never looked out of place in chelsea team,infact he always looks better then the other chelsea player when he is in that team, what will championship offer to him or even loan to lowly premier league team?
mceachran will be first 11 player in 2 years,if not i will learn english
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by blackskar Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:35 am
Bet the other ones don't have a cool dog like Wilshere 
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Shelvey.
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by Carlos Jenkinson Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:37 am
luke. wrote:Tom wrote:Danny wrote:luke. wrote:coolmarvin wrote:McEachran would surpass Wilshere if given the right chances.
Watch out, I said this and the Arsenal fanboys jumped on me
ATM Wilshere > McEachran > Cleverly.
Future probably McEachran = Wilshere > Cleverly.
Why's that funny, Mceachran playing against newcastle and Zilina was arguably the most technical player there
So at 17 years of age you could have had the highest pass completion rate of of 21 other pro footballers, both playing for Chelsea FC and Marseille respectively? Or did Wilshere do that? Or even Cleverly?
What are you talking about you just explained what i explained while backing u up, do you not know what technical ability is? Your argument means fuck all because Wilshere's better right now. Funny how i promote Mceachran over Cleverly and you still have to try and start an argument
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Shelvey > McEachran and you say McEachran doesn't play enough?
I've seen Shelveys bald head about 2 times for Liverpool
I've seen Shelveys bald head about 2 times for Liverpool
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Shelvey and Wilshere will be starting for England in the future. Let's put it that way.
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