Tom Cleverley Vs Jack Wilshere Vs Josh Mceachran

mauro wrote:wheen was i say he better then wilshere currently? please read before making such comment

im saying he is mroe technical of course and could be better in future. in response to those who say he is crap

More technical? How can he be more technical.. Wilshere beats him in every department. If by technical you mean little tricks like this..

He can do them all he likes but while he shows off doing street soccer skills Wilshere is setting up and scoring goals, winning matches.

mauro wrote:wheen was i say he better then wilshere currently? please read before making such comment

im saying he is mroe technical of course and could be better in future. in response to those who say he is crap

Did I say yhat you said that? Maybe you are the one that should read.

The-Reporter wrote:

mauro wrote:wheen was i say he better then wilshere currently? please read before making such comment

im saying he is mroe technical of course and could be better in future. in response to those who say he is crap

More technical? How can he be more technical.. Wilshere beats him in every department. If by technical you mean little tricks like this..

He can do them all he likes but while he shows off doing street soccer skills Wilshere is setting up and scoring goals, winning matches.

mceachran is a better passer, he requires less touches, he retent the ball much cleaner and consistantly than wilshere in tight areas

mceachran can set up goals, i can see this from whenever he plays. he even influcences attacks from defensive midfield position

obviously you looking at his wikipedia and his 'stats'("oh look no assists he must sucks and cant pass")

obviously you will enjoy laughing right now but same as people like noel blake and trevor brooking who know better then all of u already predict mceachran to surpass all those before him, it will happen, wilshere doing amazing to get where he is but he does not have same talent as mceachran

im no worry about little insults towards mceachran etc people can having fun right now but by 2 years or so it will being complete opposite and u will all be bumming mceachran

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The-Reporter wrote:

mauro wrote:wheen was i say he better then wilshere currently? please read before making such comment

im saying he is mroe technical of course and could be better in future. in response to those who say he is crap

More technical? How can he be more technical.. Wilshere beats him in every department. If by technical you mean little tricks like this..

He can do them all he likes but while he shows off doing street soccer skills Wilshere is setting up and scoring goals, winning matches.

mceachran is a better passer, he requires less touches, he retent the ball much cleaner and consistantly than wilshere in tight areas - Bullshit
mceachran can set up goals, i can see this from whenever he plays. he even influcences attacks from defensive midfield position - He hasn't set up any goals.

obviously you looking at his wikipedia and his 'stats'("oh look no assists he must sucks and cant pass") - Didn't say he can't pass.

obviously you will enjoy laughing right now but same as people like noel blake and trevor brooking who know better then all of u already predict mceachran to surpass all those before him, it will happen, wilshere doing amazing to get where he is but he does not have same talent as mceachran
Im not laughing, but you are talking shite.

im no worry about little insults towards mceachran etc people can having fun right now but by 2 years or so it will being complete opposite and u will all be bumming mceachran Go suck his dick, he's proved nothing yet.

Mauro is funny but also clueless.

Better passer than Wilshere ? WOW.

The-Reporter wrote:

mauro wrote:wheen was i say he better then wilshere currently? please read before making such comment

im saying he is mroe technical of course and could be better in future. in response to those who say he is crap

More technical? How can he be more technical.. Wilshere beats him in every department. If by technical you mean little tricks like this..

He can do them all he likes but while he shows off doing street soccer skills Wilshere is setting up and scoring goals, winning matches.

Wilshere only scored one league goal for arsenal.

grenade187 wrote:Mauro is funny but also clueless.

Better passer than Wilshere ? WOW.

But he is a better passer.

You're acting as if Wilshere has the passing of Fabregas or something, he's not outstanding in that department; just good enough.

Anderson=Class wrote:

The-Reporter wrote:

mauro wrote:wheen was i say he better then wilshere currently? please read before making such comment

im saying he is mroe technical of course and could be better in future. in response to those who say he is crap

More technical? How can he be more technical.. Wilshere beats him in every department. If by technical you mean little tricks like this..

He can do them all he likes but while he shows off doing street soccer skills Wilshere is setting up and scoring goals, winning matches.

Wilshere only scored one league goal for arsenal.

Scored 2 for us though and setup 7. Also scored a brace V Rangers last season.

It doesn't really matter what people think tbh. Wilshere is a first team player at Arsenal /thread.

coolmarvin wrote:

grenade187 wrote:Mauro is funny but also clueless.

Better passer than Wilshere ? WOW.

But he is a better passer.

You're acting as if Wilshere has the passing of Fabregas or something, he's not outstanding in that department; just good enough.

i know it is strange with some of these people

they not seem able to determine simple things like technical close control skills and passing

if mceachran had athleticism and low centre gravity of wilshere he would already be starting games for chelsea but because mceachran still just a stick and is not physically developed yet he must wait his chance like most people do

is nothing wrong to say wilshere is better right now, this is obvious, but mceachran is more dynamic, creative and technical with the ball in his feet and when he develops physical side of his game he will be starting many games

I don't think a lot of you have seen Wilshere's passing properly. He's exactly like Fabregas was when he was 18/19.

In the role he plays now he's there to keep it simple, the creative passes are left to Fabregas and Nasri. I've seen no evidence that McEachran is better than Wilshere in any way. Wilshere is a regular starter for one of the best midfields in the country, McEachran is behind Ramires in the pecking order at Chelsea.

The-Reporter wrote:

mauro wrote:im remember very vividly in 2008 when wilshere started make sub appearances, i was told by some arsenal fan

"you are idiot italian boy who watch grandpas in serie a" "wilshere is amazing"

is very interest to see right now that another young player is making same progress but arsenal fan is very annoyed, maybe jelous or something? im no sure. whenever mceachran is mention is like a little part of them is die or somethings

Nobodys annoyed. But why so much praise for a player who hasn't started a game for them?

I didn't say a thing about Wilshere before he started playing for us properly. Chelsea fans are all sucking his dick like he's the next Lampard, yet he hasn't started a game and in his sub appearances he's not scored or setup a goal. A few flicks and tricks don't mean shit.

He's started 2 games in the Champions League and 1 in the FA Cup

Mal wrote:I don't think a lot of you have seen Wilshere's passing properly. He's exactly like Fabregas was when he was 18/19.

In the role he plays now he's there to keep it simple, the creative passes are left to Fabregas and Nasri. I've seen no evidence that McEachran is better than Wilshere in any way. Wilshere is a regular starter for one of the best midfields in the country, McEachran is behind Ramires in the pecking order at Chelsea.

He's not behind the pecking order - Ancelotti just doesn't want to play him every game for 90 mins incase he burns him out, or risks him an injury. Perhaps some of you should watch some videos of the big Mc.






Have fun.

YouTube videos don't make a player better. I have seen him play and I have seen Wilshere play. McEachran is a good player but is nothing on Wilshere right now, when Wilshere was 17 he was better than McEachran is now too.

Mal wrote:YouTube videos don't make a player better. I have seen him play and I have seen Wilshere play. McEachran is a good player but is nothing on Wilshere right now, when Wilshere was 17 he was better than McEachran is now too.

I'm not saying they do - but it's clear most people in this thread haven't seen McEachran play.

It's his 18th birthday on the 1st March, the day we play Man U, maybe a special birthday present?

when wilshere was 17 he had only played 15 first team games for arsenal and only starts 4 of them

mceachran currently played 13 first team games, start 3

when wilshere 17 he got his first caps for england u21

mceachran got his first cap for england u21 last month

so they really identical

difference right now would be wilshere was sent to loan to bolton at this period in last season whereas chelsea will not loan mceachran because they beleive he is better to stay

so really is not much difference if u comparing them at certain points infact they are identical

Mceachran wishes he was at another club so his job wasn't "boot ball at drogba and see what happens lol".

But I've seen McEachran play Mauro. He doesn't impress me as much as Wilshere did, I could be biased but 41 people agree with me and only 3 with you.

Mal wrote:But I've seen McEachran play Mauro. He doesn't impress me as much as Wilshere did, I could be biased but 41 people agree with me and only 3 with you.

those 41 are agree with you that wilshere is better then mceachran at this moment

thats why i votes wilshere as well

they did not vote when wilshere was 17 to compare when mceachran was 17 did they?

you definitely might be bias, because when i first saw wilshere i was more impress by his tenacity and his confidence not as much as his technique and ability with ball because to me these things impress me more in young player as physically they are not develop yet but as long as they have the technical qualities they have a base to work with or else they will all be lee cattermoles

luke. wrote:

Mal wrote:YouTube videos don't make a player better. I have seen him play and I have seen Wilshere play. McEachran is a good player but is nothing on Wilshere right now, when Wilshere was 17 he was better than McEachran is now too.

I'm not saying they do - but it's clear most people in this thread haven't seen McEachran play.

It's his 18th birthday on the 1st March, the day we play Man U, maybe a special birthday present?

Hope he scores a hattrick in that one.

mauro wrote:

Mal wrote:But I've seen McEachran play Mauro. He doesn't impress me as much as Wilshere did, I could be biased but 41 people agree with me and only 3 with you.

those 41 are agree with you that wilshere is better then mceachran at this moment

thats why i votes wilshere as well

they did not vote when wilshere was 17 to compare when mceachran was 17 did they?

you definitely might be bias, because when i first saw wilshere i was more impress by his tenacity and his confidence not as much as his technique and ability with ball because to me these things impress me more in young player as physically they are not develop yet but as long as they have the technical qualities they have a base to work with or else they will all be lee cattermoles

The OP question is "Which one of these are more likely to become a superstar?"

such a poll on this forum only translates to 'which one is better' or 'which one do you like better' 'which is least ugly'

The-Reporter wrote:Mceachran wishes he was at another club so his job wasn't "boot ball at drogba and see what happens lol".

Oh dear.

mauro wrote:such a poll on this forum only translates to 'which one is better' or 'which one do you like better' 'which is least ugly'

Only to a plum that didn't read the title.

mauro, who do you support?

All I ever see is you creaming over Chelsea So are they like your English club or something?

^He likes them because of Ancelotti.

Pretty shit reason to be honest

He should tone it down, people wont take him seriously if he's always siding with Chelsea regardless.

I wonder what Chelsea are gonna do with their "old" team.

In 2 years Drogba will be past it if he isn't already, 33 in march.
Anelka is already looking like he's lost it and is 32 in march.
Lampard is on an injury frenzy and 32.
Terry isn't as good as he was a few years back and has hit 30.
Ashley Cole is still class but again 30.
Essien is plagued by injuries.
Benayoun - injuries and the wrong side of 30.

Without those lot who are they left with?

Malouda--------Sturridge---------Kalou
-------Mceachran-----Ramires---------
-------------------Mikel---------------
Zhirkov---Alex-------Ivanovic--Bosingwa
----------------Cech-------------------

With Essien playing cameo's

Will Roman go on a massive spending spree again?

The-Reporter wrote:I wonder what Chelsea are gonna do with their "old" team.

In 2 years Drogba will be past it if he isn't already, 33 in march.
Anelka is already looking like he's lost it and is 32 in march.
Lampard is on an injury frenzy and 32.
Terry isn't as good as he was a few years back and has hit 30.
Ashley Cole is still class but again 30.
Essien is plagued by injuries.
Benayoun - injuries and the wrong side of 30.

Without those lot who are they left with?

Malouda--------Sturridge---------Kalou
-------Mceachran-----Ramires---------
-------------------Mikel---------------
Zhirkov---Alex-------Ivanovic--Bosingwa
----------------Cech-------------------

With Essien playing cameo's

Will Roman go on a massive spending spree again?

Wow, never actually realised how old Didier was. He has been in decline since the start of the season although through injury and malaria I think. Anelka could possibly move on, Pato might come if Ancelotti tries again. Malouda's already 30 I think so hasn't really got much more to improve upon. When willthe rebuilding of Chelsea begin? Couldn't give to fucks to be honest.

That's 3 first teamers in Anelka, Drogba and Lampard who's pretty much had their best seasons behind them.

McEachran is Lampards replacement, Bruma will step in for Terry, Sturridge can play all across the front 3, Lalkovic is looking promising, Borini is pretty much gone, sadly. Hutchinson was looking great before he retired. PVA is basically the next Cole.

A few signings here and there, but no spending spree is needed.