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    Is Ashley Cole still the best..........??????????

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    Post by luke. Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:11 am

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    luke. wrote:Cole is a fantastic all round LB.

    That's as much justification you've given me for Marcelo. So that will do.
    Marcelo is part of the defensive line that only conceded 16 (losing only 1) in La Liga and 2 in Champions League (losing no matches) so far this season. Also last season only conceded 35 in the league.

    He has three assists too..not too sure on that one.

    Do you really want me to pull out Chelsea's defensive record over the last few years?

    Too bad it has no relevance to this season. Smile

    Really because chelsea have only conceded something like 18 goals in the league this season despite how shit we have been facepalm
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    Post by Mario Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:12 am

    luke. wrote:Egzon's sig is a false quote. Taking out the 'Neutral', which also takes out the jokey nature of the post.

    Half a season of Marcelo being on good form and Antonino too, being better then Cole who's been great for a decade.

    That's so fucking stupid.

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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:13 am

    luke. wrote:
    (polskaGOLA) wrote:
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    luke. wrote:Cole is a fantastic all round LB.

    That's as much justification you've given me for Marcelo. So that will do.
    Marcelo is part of the defensive line that only conceded 16 (losing only 1) in La Liga and 2 in Champions League (losing no matches) so far this season. Also last season only conceded 35 in the league.

    He has three assists too..not too sure on that one.

    Do you really want me to pull out Chelsea's defensive record over the last few years?

    Too bad it has no relevance to this season. Smile

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    Post by luke. Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:14 am

    Sure you did Egzon.

    BTW, Chelsea, Man City and Man Utd and Man City are all joint top defensively in the league. So your argument is pretty shit Polska, especially considering our poor form.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:14 am

    19 actually, still not better than RM record this season. Simples, Cole hasn't done anything this season...and Marcelo has. Which is why he's better than Cole...but Cole is a better player through all these years...but why should that make him the best LB? because if that's so R.Carlos is the best because of his career?
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    Post by luke. Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:15 am

    Pablo Sarabia wrote:
    luke. wrote:Egzon's sig is a false quote. Taking out the 'Neutral', which also takes out the jokey nature of the post.

    Half a season of Marcelo being on good form and Antonino too, being better then Cole who's been great for a decade.

    That's so fucking stupid.

    Fuck off you weren't joking, you had like 3-4 posts about Cole being better, we all know what you're about, whenever you get proven wrong you're trolling or joking apparently. Is Ashley Cole still the best..........?????????? - Page 3 70955

    I took the Neutral out because I don't like emoticons in my sig

    And you're not being bitter by having that in your sig?

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    Post by chiboygeorge Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:16 am

    luke. wrote:Sure you did Egzon.

    BTW, Chelsea, Man City and Man Utd and Man City are all joint top defensively in the league. So your argument is pretty shit Polska, especially considering our poor form.
    Umm, Man City have the best record over everyone in the league. Rolling Eyes
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    Post by luke. Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:17 am

    chiboygeorge wrote:
    luke. wrote:Sure you did Egzon.

    BTW, Chelsea, Man City and Man Utd and Man City are all joint top defensively in the league. So your argument is pretty shit Polska, especially considering our poor form.
    Umm, Man City have the best record over everyone in the league. Rolling Eyes


    Uhmmmmmm we've all conceded 19..
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:20 am

    luke. wrote:
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    luke. wrote:Sure you did Egzon.

    BTW, Chelsea, Man City and Man Utd and Man City are all joint top defensively in the league. So your argument is pretty shit Polska, especially considering our poor form.
    Umm, Man City have the best record over everyone in the league. Rolling Eyes


    Uhmmmmmm we've all conceded 19..
    Didn't know City played today, my fault.

    But you still haven't answered my other question..
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    Post by luke. Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:22 am

    chiboygeorge wrote:19 actually, still not better than RM record this season. Simples, Cole hasn't done anything this season...and Marcelo has. Which is why he's better than Cole...but Cole is a better player through all these years...but why should that make him the best LB? because if that's so R.Carlos is the best because of his career?

    Cole hasn't done anything this season? Yeah, k.

    Half a season doesn't make you the world's best LB, come back to me in 5 years when he has been playing at his current rate consistently. Because that is what Cole has done. Even when he broke his ankle last season, was out for 3/4 months and came back and played as his normal self.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:28 am

    luke. wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:19 actually, still not better than RM record this season. Simples, Cole hasn't done anything this season...and Marcelo has. Which is why he's better than Cole...but Cole is a better player through all these years...but why should that make him the best LB? because if that's so R.Carlos is the best because of his career?

    Cole hasn't done anything this season? Yeah, k.

    Half a season doesn't make you the world's best LB, come back to me in 5 years when he has been playing at his current rate consistently. Because that is what Cole has done. Even when he broke his ankle last season, was out for 3/4 months and came back and played as his normal self.
    Cole hasn't done anything compared to Marcelo and right now Marcelo is better than Cole but I don't even think he's the world's best LB but whatever. I simply think he's been better than Cole from this season onwards.

    Also half a season can make you someone you didn't used to be, (Cole) If Cole continued his form from last season I wouldn't say Marcelo is better than him right now but he didn't which is what makes me say Marcelo is better than him.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:29 am

    luke. wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:19 actually, still not better than RM record this season. Simples, Cole hasn't done anything this season...and Marcelo has. Which is why he's better than Cole...but Cole is a better player through all these years...but why should that make him the best LB? because if that's so R.Carlos is the best because of his career?

    Cole hasn't done anything this season? Yeah, k.

    Half a season doesn't make you the world's best LB, come back to me in 5 years when he has been playing at his current rate consistently. Because that is what Cole has done. Even when he broke his ankle last season, was out for 3/4 months and came back and played as his normal self.
    It's not like Cole is an amazing player. Rolling Eyes

    Sure, he can arguably be considered the best LB in the world today, but that is more to do with their lacking an actual top top top LB this generation, not with Cole actually being that good.
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    Post by Dean Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:29 am

    Nah, not a chance Marcelo is better than Cole, not even in his bracket, YET might I add.
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    Post by luke. Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:29 am

    Wait, you think Marcelo > Cole but Marcelo isn't the best LB in the world? Who is then facepalm
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    Post by Mario Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:30 am

    Sometimes I wonder what the fuck Luke is doing on a football forum.
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    Post by luke. Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:31 am

    (polskaGOLA) wrote:
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    chiboygeorge wrote:19 actually, still not better than RM record this season. Simples, Cole hasn't done anything this season...and Marcelo has. Which is why he's better than Cole...but Cole is a better player through all these years...but why should that make him the best LB? because if that's so R.Carlos is the best because of his career?

    Cole hasn't done anything this season? Yeah, k.

    Half a season doesn't make you the world's best LB, come back to me in 5 years when he has been playing at his current rate consistently. Because that is what Cole has done. Even when he broke his ankle last season, was out for 3/4 months and came back and played as his normal self.
    It's not like Cole is an amazing player. Rolling Eyes

    Sure, he can arguably be considered the best LB in the world today, but that is more to do with their lacking an actual top top top LB this generation, not with Cole actually being that good.

    You could say that, in your opinion. But you still can't deny he is they best LB on the planet at the moment, without him needing to be absolutely brilliant.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:32 am

    luke. wrote:Wait, you think Marcelo > Cole but Marcelo isn't the best LB in the world? Who is then Is Ashley Cole still the best..........?????????? - Page 3 58503
    Well when all this LB shit started I did say Evra is the best. Neutral
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    Post by Theo Filippo Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:33 am

    lol @ marcelo better than cole.
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    Post by chiboygeorge Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:33 am

    luke. wrote:
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    chiboygeorge wrote:19 actually, still not better than RM record this season. Simples, Cole hasn't done anything this season...and Marcelo has. Which is why he's better than Cole...but Cole is a better player through all these years...but why should that make him the best LB? because if that's so R.Carlos is the best because of his career?

    Cole hasn't done anything this season? Yeah, k.

    Half a season doesn't make you the world's best LB, come back to me in 5 years when he has been playing at his current rate consistently. Because that is what Cole has done. Even when he broke his ankle last season, was out for 3/4 months and came back and played as his normal self.
    It's not like Cole is an amazing player. Rolling Eyes

    Sure, he can arguably be considered the best LB in the world today, but that is more to do with their lacking an actual top top top LB this generation, not with Cole actually being that good.

    You could say that, in your opinion. But you still can't deny he is they best LB on the planet at the moment, without him needing to be absolutely brilliant.
    See, that's where you are wrong and can I say..."biased"

    We all know at the moment Cole can't touch Marcelo, even confirmed by some Englishmen so you can't say I'm being biased.
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:34 am

    luke. wrote:
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    luke. wrote:
    chiboygeorge wrote:19 actually, still not better than RM record this season. Simples, Cole hasn't done anything this season...and Marcelo has. Which is why he's better than Cole...but Cole is a better player through all these years...but why should that make him the best LB? because if that's so R.Carlos is the best because of his career?

    Cole hasn't done anything this season? Yeah, k.

    Half a season doesn't make you the world's best LB, come back to me in 5 years when he has been playing at his current rate consistently. Because that is what Cole has done. Even when he broke his ankle last season, was out for 3/4 months and came back and played as his normal self.
    It's not like Cole is an amazing player. Rolling Eyes

    Sure, he can arguably be considered the best LB in the world today, but that is more to do with their lacking an actual top top top LB this generation, not with Cole actually being that good.

    You could say that, in your opinion. But you still can't deny he is they best LB on the planet at the moment, without him needing to be absolutely brilliant.

    It is arguable. Neutral

    And therefore we agree on the second half of your line? Cole is good, but he isn't amazing.
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    Post by luke. Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:37 am

    Maybe he isn't as good as his predecessors. But that doesn't mean he isn't the best of todays footballing world. Marcelo may be having a better season, but let's see if he can keep it consistent for as long as Cole has.
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    Post by Mario Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:38 am

    Luke if we're going to do it this way, then Roberto Carlos is still the worlds best LB, heck he'd be considered as the best if he played for a bigger club atm as he's still amazing.
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    Post by luke. Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:39 am

    Pablo Sarabia wrote:Luke if we're going to do it this way, then Roberto Carlos is still the worlds best LB, heck he'd be considered as the best if he played for a bigger club atm as he's still amazing.

    Oh dear Neutral
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    Post by Mario Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:41 am

    Don't "oh dear" you cunt, you obviously don't have a "counter" argument as you know I am right.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:42 am

    marcelos having a good season but cole has been doing quality this season, its hard to stand out from left back when every player around you is doing fucking SHIT
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    Post by luke. Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:43 am

    It's that stupid I don't even need a counter argument.

    If Carlos was still the worlds best he'd still be playing for Real Madrid/other top class team.
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    Post by Mario Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:45 am

    luke. wrote:It's that stupid I don't even need a counter argument.

    If Carlos was still the worlds best he'd still be playing for Real Madrid/other top class team.

    You're so stupid Laughing So David Villa wasn't the worlds best striker last season and such?
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    Post by Guest Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:47 am

    luke. wrote:It's that stupid I don't even need a counter argument.

    If Carlos was still the worlds best he'd still be playing for Real Madrid/other top class team.
    Not necessarily, no. The guy has to retire one day, and he will retire in his native Brazil.

    Brazil Serie A is a really good league. Roberto Carlos is still class there even at his age, i'd expect him to be class in Europe as well if he still played there. I wouldn't say he'd be #1 if he were playing in Europe, but he'd be top 5 still I would imagine.
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    Post by luke. Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:47 am

    Pablo Sarabia wrote:
    luke. wrote:It's that stupid I don't even need a counter argument.

    If Carlos was still the worlds best he'd still be playing for Real Madrid/other top class team.

    You're so stupid Laughing So David Villa wasn't the worlds best striker last season and such?

    Completely different facepalm

    And IMO last season Drogba was the best in the world. Call me biased, I don't care, my opinon.
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    Yeah Drogba the best Laughing Not going to bother with you.

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