Is Ashley Cole still the best..........??????????

Too far.

(polskaGOLA) wrote:If you want to go like that, then Ashley Cole is the worst excuse of a world class LB in history.

Over 80 caps for his country, three league titles, part of the famous Invincibles. He's won more FA cups than any other player, two Champions League finals.

A quality defender who barely puts a foot wrong, good attacker as well. He has pace, can pass and he reads the game really well. I hate this fucker and me saying all this is making me sick but I can't stop it from being true.

No it isn't.

As much as you love the player Luke, and as much as he is the world's best LB at the moment, he doesn't compare to Roberto Carlos, Maldini, Breitner or Gordillo or other names I can think of.

(polskaGOLA) wrote:No it isn't.

As much as you love the player Luke, and as much as he is the world's best LB at the moment, he doesn't compare to Roberto Carlos, Maldini, Breitner or Gordillo or other names I can think of.

As I said, Henry never compared to Pele, doesn't mean Henry was never world class.

Mal wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:No it isn't.

As much as you love the player Luke, and as much as he is the world's best LB at the moment, he doesn't compare to Roberto Carlos, Maldini, Breitner or Gordillo or other names I can think of.

As I said, Henry never compared to Pele, doesn't mean Henry was never world class.

Yes but, Henry was a fantastic player, Cole is good player, that is it.

It's not a matter of who's the best player at the time, world class is like an invisible category you have to pass which makes you great. Just because someone is best at the time does not mean they pass into the world class category. You could argue that if we bought someone from the 1920's who was world class and put him into todays modern game he would perish. Realistically though, the player from the 1920's was close to performing at his predecessors which gave him the category of world class is why he's called that.

If you put Cole in the 1920's he'd be world class but this is the modern game and he's just the best and what he's doing currently. Not world class but the best LB around

Tom wrote:It's not a matter of who's the best player at the time, world class is like an invisible category you have to pass which makes you great. Just because someone is best at the time does not mean they pass into the world class category. You could argue that if we bought someone from the 1920's who was world class and put him into todays modern game he would perish. Realistically though, the player from the 1920's was close to performing at his predecessors which gave him the category of world class is why he's called that.

If you put Cole in the 1920's he'd be world class but this is the modern game and he's just the best and what he's doing currently. Not world class but the best LB around

I don't agree with that. But anyway this thread is about Ashley Cole being the left back now which he is so /thread

Tom wrote:It's not a matter of who's the best player at the time, world class is like an invisible category you have to pass which makes you great. Just because someone is best at the time does not mean they pass into the world class category. You could argue that if we bought someone from the 1920's who was world class and put him into todays modern game he would perish. Realistically though, the player from the 1920's was close to performing at his predecessors which gave him the category of world class is why he's called that.

If you put Cole in the 1920's he'd be world class but this is the modern game and he's just the best and what he's doing currently. Not world class but the best LB around

Agreed.

In the modern day game most defenders from the past would be sent off in a matter of minutes every game.

luke. wrote:In the modern day game most defenders from the past would be sent off in a matter of minutes every game.

Well obviously they'd need time to get adjusted to new rules.

Look at Van Bronckhorst for example. He is not too dissimilar to fullbacks of the past.

Mal wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:If you want to go like that, then Ashley Cole is the worst excuse of a world class LB in history.

Over 80 caps for his country, three league titles, part of the famous Invincibles. He's won more FA cups than any other player, two Champions League finals.

A quality defender who barely puts a foot wrong, good attacker as well. He has pace, can pass and he reads the game really well. I hate this fucker and me saying all this is making me sick but I can't stop it from being true.

he also likes other premiership footballs to give him anal fun with mobile phones.

surely the title of 'best leftback' must go to mr patrice evra cos a) he has a sexy goatee, b) wears sexy gloves better than any other footballer, c) the big one.... he doesnt take it up the arse. If anything HE does the giving.

^Your not funny when you do that.. it's just stupid

Other times it is tho.

luke. wrote:^Your not funny when you do that.. it's just stupid

Other times it is tho.

sorry luke.

Mal wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:No it isn't.

As much as you love the player Luke, and as much as he is the world's best LB at the moment, he doesn't compare to Roberto Carlos, Maldini, Breitner or Gordillo or other names I can think of.

As I said, Henry never compared to Pele, doesn't mean Henry was never world class.

Lets put it this way Henry will be remember worldwide because of the kind of player he was, Cole will only be remembered in England.

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

Mal wrote:

(polskaGOLA) wrote:No it isn't.

As much as you love the player Luke, and as much as he is the world's best LB at the moment, he doesn't compare to Roberto Carlos, Maldini, Breitner or Gordillo or other names I can think of.

As I said, Henry never compared to Pele, doesn't mean Henry was never world class.

Lets put it this way Henry will be remember worldwide because of the kind of player he was, Cole will only be remembered in England.

Sums up the footballing knowledge of the rest of the world tbh then.

well he was voted as most consistent leftback of his generation by the nice peopl ein uefa.com which is visit by people from all the worlds so obvious not only english people notice him now

Mauro

mauro wrote:well he was voted as most consistent leftback of his generation by the nice peopl ein uefa.com which is visit by people from all the worlds so obvious not only english people notice him now

No one said that he is not currently the best LB but it's funny that whenever people have the chance to pick 3 cbs instead of a LB he's out, but like I said Cole won't be remembered when he retires except in little England. Because he isn't that special like the English are saying.

im no english person

how come i will remember him

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

mauro wrote:well he was voted as most consistent leftback of his generation by the nice peopl ein uefa.com which is visit by people from all the worlds so obvious not only english people notice him now

No one said that he is not currently the best LB but it's funny that whenever people have the chance to pick 3 cbs instead of a LB he's out, but like I said Cole won't be remembered when he retires except in little England. Because he isn't that special like the English are saying.

You're an idiot. I'd just stop talking if I were you, but that isn't going to happen.

blackskar wrote:

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

mauro wrote:well he was voted as most consistent leftback of his generation by the nice peopl ein uefa.com which is visit by people from all the worlds so obvious not only english people notice him now

No one said that he is not currently the best LB but it's funny that whenever people have the chance to pick 3 cbs instead of a LB he's out, but like I said Cole won't be remembered when he retires except in little England. Because he isn't that special like the English are saying.

You're an idiot. I'd just stop talking if I were you, but that isn't going to happen.

You're the one that thinks Chamakh is world class,

enough said.

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

mauro wrote:well he was voted as most consistent leftback of his generation by the nice peopl ein uefa.com which is visit by people from all the worlds so obvious not only english people notice him now

No one said that he is not currently the best LB but it's funny that whenever people have the chance to pick 3 cbs instead of a LB he's out, but like I said Cole won't be remembered when he retires except in little England. Because he isn't that special like the English are saying.

You're an idiot. I'd just stop talking if I were you, but that isn't going to happen.

You're the one that thinks Chamakh is world class,

enough said.

You know your argument is shit when you start making shit up. He never said that, it was another Arsenal fan, nice try though.

4th time I've got to tell you Egzon.

I DID NOT SAY CHAMAKH WAS WORLD CLASS

You get the fucking message that time you thick headed cunt?

Pathetic Egzon.

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

mauro wrote:well he was voted as most consistent leftback of his generation by the nice peopl ein uefa.com which is visit by people from all the worlds so obvious not only english people notice him now

No one said that he is not currently the best LB but it's funny that whenever people have the chance to pick 3 cbs instead of a LB he's out, but like I said Cole won't be remembered when he retires except in little England. Because he isn't that special like the English are saying.

little old england is better than shite fucking spain thats for sure.

power to the Basque way of life. spain can go fuck themselves.

luke. wrote:

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

mauro wrote:well he was voted as most consistent leftback of his generation by the nice peopl ein uefa.com which is visit by people from all the worlds so obvious not only english people notice him now

No one said that he is not currently the best LB but it's funny that whenever people have the chance to pick 3 cbs instead of a LB he's out, but like I said Cole won't be remembered when he retires except in little England. Because he isn't that special like the English are saying.

You're an idiot. I'd just stop talking if I were you, but that isn't going to happen.

You're the one that thinks Chamakh is world class,

enough said.

You know your argument is shit when you start making shit up. He never said that, it was another Arsenal fan, nice try though.

You're not one to talk about shit arguments, ginger and lol FRN Where was England in the WC then? or Euros 08.

little england

little belgium

mauro wrote:little england

little belgium

Both are little insignificant countries in comparison to Poland and Italy!

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

luke. wrote:

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

No one said that he is not currently the best LB but it's funny that whenever people have the chance to pick 3 cbs instead of a LB he's out, but like I said Cole won't be remembered when he retires except in little England. Because he isn't that special like the English are saying.

You're an idiot. I'd just stop talking if I were you, but that isn't going to happen.

You're the one that thinks Chamakh is world class,

enough said.

You know your argument is shit when you start making shit up. He never said that, it was another Arsenal fan, nice try though.

You're not one to talk about shit arguments, ginger and lol FRN Where was England in the WC then? or Euros 08.

Why you talking about Spain? You're Belgian.

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

luke. wrote:

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

blackskar wrote:

Pablo Sarabia wrote:

No one said that he is not currently the best LB but it's funny that whenever people have the chance to pick 3 cbs instead of a LB he's out, but like I said Cole won't be remembered when he retires except in little England. Because he isn't that special like the English are saying.

You're an idiot. I'd just stop talking if I were you, but that isn't going to happen.

You're the one that thinks Chamakh is world class,

enough said.

You know your argument is shit when you start making shit up. He never said that, it was another Arsenal fan, nice try though.

You're not one to talk about shit arguments, ginger and lol FRN Where was England in the WC then? or Euros 08.

where would spain be without the basque land? up shit creek thats where. All the industy is in the heart of basque land as well as most of the money. you'd be fucked.