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    Post by Mario Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:02 am

    dena wrote:
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    Pablo Sarabia wrote:Shows the quality of your league, you're playing shit yet are on top. Wink
    That shows that the rest of the league is a lot more competitive than it has been a long time. Every team can beat any other in the league.

    Nah, your bigger teams have just been shit and Kyro said the rest of La Liga is shit, how come you had such a hard time vs Valencia they deserved to win at home.
    I fucking wonder...

    Carrick played, he'd been shite all season and might have just only come back.

    Berbatov played up front on his own- has never worked for us.

    Anderson was just getting back from a serious knee injury.

    Ferdinand was just back from injury.

    Rooney didn't play.

    How come we smashed them at OT then? We should have scored around 5 Neutral

    You act as if Valencia were full strength... I remember Mata not playing, Soldado not playing... and I wouldnt be surpised if other starters didnt either, that game was a dead rubber. Neutral

    There was also no Costa and Banega.
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    Post by Jamie Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:02 am

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    I disagree. As a Liverpool fan I can realistically say I'm a neutral this season as far as the title race goes. I sure as fuck don't find it more interesting watching United, Chelsea etc play poorly. How is having 4 teams playing below their ability competiting for the league better than having 2 teams playing to their maximum competiting.

    It's not enjoyable watching Chelsea and United playing shit, it leads to shit matches...upsets or not.
    Our game against Villa at Villa Park.. probably the best game I've seen this season. And it was probably our worst performance. The entire second half was end to end stuff, most of the game was tbh.

    Then like I said before, probably just done to a difference of views. I don't find the premiership style of play as enjoyable when teams are playing at their best, so it's understandable I find it boring as anything when teams are playing below that.
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    Post by Danny Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:02 am

    dena wrote:

    You act as if Valencia were full strength... I remember Mata not playing, Soldado not playing... and I wouldnt be surpised if other starters didnt either, that game was a dead rubber. Neutral
    Fine then, we weren't full strength at the Mestalla. They weren't full strength at Old Trafford. Happy? Neutral

    And even at the Mestalla, they didn't create that many chances that worked Van der Sar Laughing
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    Post by Mario Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:03 am

    menalawyerguy wrote:
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    kyro7 wrote:Not for a neutral it isn't..Neutral

    In La Liga you might as well play two matches between Madrid and Barca and whoever win over 2 legs win the league.

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    Tbh, it's pretty much right. It's usually the case, whoever wins the "mini league", in England it's usually United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, in Spain it's Barca and Madrid, wins the title.

    Anyone that has a bit of football knowledge would know that it's between Chelsea and United. You don't seem to have it.

    That's why Chelsea is in 4th almost halfway through the season. But you're the one with all the football knowledge.

    Chelsea are 4th because they've been in poor form. Also quite a few injuries. Wink Once they get in a "good" form again they'll walk away with United.
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    Post by dena Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:03 am

    Danny B wrote:
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    You act as if Valencia were full strength... I remember Mata not playing, Soldado not playing... and I wouldnt be surpised if other starters didnt either, that game was a dead rubber. Neutral
    Fine then, we weren't full strength at the Mestalla. They weren't full strength at Old Trafford. Happy? Neutral

    And even at the Mestalla, they didn't create that many chances that worked Van der Sar Laughing

    Neither team did, if memory serves me right, that game was downright terrible.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:03 am

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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:03 am

    kyro7 wrote:By the way, I'm not talking about in the past and shit, I'm talking about since Ronaldo came to Madrid, I just feel like Madrid and Barca have both got better, and their closest competitors a little worse.

    I think if Barcelona done Madrid home and away, they'd win the league and the same the other way round.
    Does anyone think this is wrong then?
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    Post by Danny Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:04 am

    Jamie wrote:

    Then like I said before, probably just done to a difference of views. I don't find the premiership style of play as enjoyable when teams are playing at their best, so it's understandable I find it boring as anything when teams are playing below that.
    Yeah, it is a matter of opinion. For me, I don't feel an urge to watch La Liga if Barca/Madrid aren't playing. Maybe that's me being a bit naive, but that's just how I feel about it.

    And even now, I don't think I'd watch Madrid as much as I do if Ronaldo wasn't with them.
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    Post by Mario Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:04 am

    Danny B wrote:
    dena wrote:

    You act as if Valencia were full strength... I remember Mata not playing, Soldado not playing... and I wouldnt be surpised if other starters didnt either, that game was a dead rubber. Neutral
    Fine then, we weren't full strength at the Mestalla. They weren't full strength at Old Trafford. Happy? Neutral

    And even at the Mestalla, they didn't create that many chances that worked Van der Sar Laughing

    They weren't full strength at Mestella either, no Banega. R.Costa, Joaquin etc.

    Banega's arguably their best CM on his day. Neutral
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    Post by menalawyerguy Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:05 am

    Pablo Sarabia wrote:
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    Tbh, it's pretty much right. It's usually the case, whoever wins the "mini league", in England it's usually United, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, in Spain it's Barca and Madrid, wins the title.

    Anyone that has a bit of football knowledge would know that it's between Chelsea and United. You don't seem to have it.

    That's why Chelsea is in 4th almost halfway through the season. But you're the one with all the football knowledge.

    Chelsea are 4th because they've been in poor form. Also quite a few injuries. Wink Once they get in a "good" form again they'll walk away with United.

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    Post by Danny Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:05 am

    dena wrote:
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    dena wrote:

    You act as if Valencia were full strength... I remember Mata not playing, Soldado not playing... and I wouldnt be surpised if other starters didnt either, that game was a dead rubber. Neutral
    Fine then, we weren't full strength at the Mestalla. They weren't full strength at Old Trafford. Happy? Neutral

    And even at the Mestalla, they didn't create that many chances that worked Van der Sar Laughing

    Neither team did, if memory serves me right, that game was downright terrible.
    Both games weren't exactly classics no. But over the 2, I'd say we were the better team. We took 4 points to their 1, and created more chances, and made their keepers work more.
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    Post by Danny Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:06 am

    Pablo Sarabia wrote:
    Danny B wrote:
    dena wrote:

    You act as if Valencia were full strength... I remember Mata not playing, Soldado not playing... and I wouldnt be surpised if other starters didnt either, that game was a dead rubber. Neutral
    Fine then, we weren't full strength at the Mestalla. They weren't full strength at Old Trafford. Happy? Neutral

    And even at the Mestalla, they didn't create that many chances that worked Van der Sar Laughing

    They weren't full strength at Mestella either, no Banega. R.Costa, Joaquin etc.

    Banega's arguably their best CM on his day. Neutral
    We weren't full strength at Old Trafford either you dumb fuck. We had something like Smalling and Evans at the back, and Ben Amos in goal. Or something like that Neutral
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    Post by Jamie Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:06 am

    Tbh, I just don't see how Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming almost unstoppable forces in the past 2-3 seasons is a bad thing.
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    Post by Mario Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:06 am

    Danny B wrote:
    dena wrote:
    Danny B wrote:
    dena wrote:

    You act as if Valencia were full strength... I remember Mata not playing, Soldado not playing... and I wouldnt be surpised if other starters didnt either, that game was a dead rubber. Neutral
    Fine then, we weren't full strength at the Mestalla. They weren't full strength at Old Trafford. Happy? Neutral

    And even at the Mestalla, they didn't create that many chances that worked Van der Sar Laughing

    Neither team did, if memory serves me right, that game was downright terrible.
    Both games weren't exactly classics no. But over the 2, I'd say we were the better team. We took 4 points to their 1, and created more chances, and made their keepers work more.

    I'm going to play the game you guys play, the number 1 in England had trouble with the number 4 in Spain atm. Neutral



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    Post by Guest Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:07 am

    Jamie wrote:Tbh, I just don't see how Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming almost unstoppable forces in the past 2-3 seasons is a bad thing.
    It's not a bad thing for me, I only really watch Barca and Madrid games, sometimes Valencia Atletico etc..
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    Post by Danny Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:07 am

    Jamie wrote:Tbh, I just don't see how Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming almost unstoppable forces in the past 2-3 seasons is a bad thing.
    As a neutral, you go into pretty much every single Madrid and Barca game pretty much knowing they're gonna grab all the points. That's fun?
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    Post by Jamie Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:08 am

    Danny B wrote:
    Jamie wrote:Tbh, I just don't see how Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming almost unstoppable forces in the past 2-3 seasons is a bad thing.
    As a neutral, you go into pretty much every single Madrid and Barca game pretty much knowing they're gonna grab all the points. That's fun?

    Yes, because the football on show as a standalone game(Barca more so) is exceptional.

    Watching good football is fun.
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    Post by menalawyerguy Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:08 am

    Jamie wrote:Tbh, I just don't see how Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming almost unstoppable forces in the past 2-3 seasons is a bad thing.

    Depends what you want. Do you want impressive displays of massive dominance or some parity so that a doubt and drama come into play?
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    Post by Danny Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:08 am

    Pablo Sarabia wrote:
    Danny B wrote:
    dena wrote:
    Danny B wrote:
    dena wrote:

    You act as if Valencia were full strength... I remember Mata not playing, Soldado not playing... and I wouldnt be surpised if other starters didnt either, that game was a dead rubber. Neutral
    Fine then, we weren't full strength at the Mestalla. They weren't full strength at Old Trafford. Happy? Neutral

    And even at the Mestalla, they didn't create that many chances that worked Van der Sar Laughing

    Neither team did, if memory serves me right, that game was downright terrible.
    Both games weren't exactly classics no. But over the 2, I'd say we were the better team. We took 4 points to their 1, and created more chances, and made their keepers work more.

    I'm going to play the game you guys play, the number 1 in England had trouble with the number 4 in Spain atm. Neutral



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    I swear your head's screwed on the wrong way. If we're going to talk about both games between us and Valencia, look at the line ups, who won, chances created etc... Neutral
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    Post by Jamie Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:09 am

    menalawyerguy wrote:
    Jamie wrote:Tbh, I just don't see how Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming almost unstoppable forces in the past 2-3 seasons is a bad thing.

    Depends what you want. Do you want impressive displays of massive dominance or some parity so that a doubt and drama come into play?

    I just want to watch good football when it comes to a team that isn't my own.
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    Post by dena Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:09 am

    kyro7 wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:By the way, I'm not talking about in the past and shit, I'm talking about since Ronaldo came to Madrid, I just feel like Madrid and Barca have both got better, and their closest competitors a little worse.

    I think if Barcelona done Madrid home and away, they'd win the league and the same the other way round.
    Does anyone think this is wrong then?

    I'd agree with that, and as a La Liga fan for over a decade, I hope the new rumored TV deal gives the other teams that extra bit of cash to compete, because as it's been shown in the past La Liga teams don't need massive amounts of money to compete with Madrid and Barcelona.
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    Post by Danny Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:09 am

    Jamie wrote:
    Danny B wrote:
    Jamie wrote:Tbh, I just don't see how Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming almost unstoppable forces in the past 2-3 seasons is a bad thing.
    As a neutral, you go into pretty much every single Madrid and Barca game pretty much knowing they're gonna grab all the points. That's fun?

    Yes, because the football on show as a standalone game(Barca more so) is exceptional.

    Watching good football is fun.
    Tbh, watching Barca batter the shit out of most teams isn't that fun. It gets a bit boring and repetitive. One of the best Barca games this season I've seen, was actually when they lost at Herucles.
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    Post by Barton Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:10 am

    Jamie wrote:Tbh, I just don't see how Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming almost unstoppable forces in the past 2-3 seasons is a bad thing.

    Makes the league boring and predictable, especially after 09/10.

    But thats not the point, that iPepe is denying that La Liga isn't a 2 team league at the moment, and he's going on about a bunch of random shit like how Real and Barca are the best teams in the world. Really confusing trying to argue with that guy, he just goes way off topic and turns the debate into a different topic. Neutral
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    Post by menalawyerguy Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:10 am

    Jamie wrote:
    menalawyerguy wrote:
    Jamie wrote:Tbh, I just don't see how Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming almost unstoppable forces in the past 2-3 seasons is a bad thing.

    Depends what you want. Do you want impressive displays of massive dominance or some parity so that a doubt and drama come into play?

    I just want to watch good football when it comes to a team that isn't my own.

    Then the superclub incarnation of Team Spain known as Barcelona is for you.


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    Post by Mario Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:10 am

    dena wrote:
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    kyro7 wrote:By the way, I'm not talking about in the past and shit, I'm talking about since Ronaldo came to Madrid, I just feel like Madrid and Barca have both got better, and their closest competitors a little worse.

    I think if Barcelona done Madrid home and away, they'd win the league and the same the other way round.
    Does anyone think this is wrong then?

    I'd agree with that, and as a La Liga fan for over a decade, I hope the new rumored TV deal gives the other teams that extra bit of cash to compete, because as it's been shown in the past La Liga teams don't need massive amounts of money to compete with Madrid and Barcelona.

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    Post by dena Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:11 am

    Pablo Sarabia wrote:
    dena wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:By the way, I'm not talking about in the past and shit, I'm talking about since Ronaldo came to Madrid, I just feel like Madrid and Barca have both got better, and their closest competitors a little worse.

    I think if Barcelona done Madrid home and away, they'd win the league and the same the other way round.
    Does anyone think this is wrong then?

    I'd agree with that, and as a La Liga fan for over a decade, I hope the new rumored TV deal gives the other teams that extra bit of cash to compete, because as it's been shown in the past La Liga teams don't need massive amounts of money to compete with Madrid and Barcelona.

    Malaga have a sheikh now. Neutral

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    Post by Mario Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:11 am

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    Jamie wrote:Tbh, I just don't see how Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming almost unstoppable forces in the past 2-3 seasons is a bad thing.

    Makes the league boring and predictable, especially after 09/10.

    But thats not the point, that iPepe is denying that La Liga isn't a 2 team league at the moment, and he's going on about a bunch of random shit like how Real and Barca are the best teams in the world. Really confusing trying to argue with that guy, he just goes way off topic and turns the debate into a different topic. Neutral

    How am I changing the debate? You guys tend to go on about now, then the history, you lost the history argument then go on about now again. Neutral
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    Post by menalawyerguy Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:12 am

    dena wrote:
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    dena wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:
    kyro7 wrote:By the way, I'm not talking about in the past and shit, I'm talking about since Ronaldo came to Madrid, I just feel like Madrid and Barca have both got better, and their closest competitors a little worse.

    I think if Barcelona done Madrid home and away, they'd win the league and the same the other way round.
    Does anyone think this is wrong then?

    I'd agree with that, and as a La Liga fan for over a decade, I hope the new rumored TV deal gives the other teams that extra bit of cash to compete, because as it's been shown in the past La Liga teams don't need massive amounts of money to compete with Madrid and Barcelona.

    Malaga have a sheikh now. Neutral

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    Post by Barton Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:13 am

    Pablo Sarabia wrote:
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    Jamie wrote:Tbh, I just don't see how Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming almost unstoppable forces in the past 2-3 seasons is a bad thing.

    Makes the league boring and predictable, especially after 09/10.

    But thats not the point, that iPepe is denying that La Liga isn't a 2 team league at the moment, and he's going on about a bunch of random shit like how Real and Barca are the best teams in the world. Really confusing trying to argue with that guy, he just goes way off topic and turns the debate into a different topic. Neutral

    How am I changing the debate? You guys tend to go on about now, then the history, you lost the history argument then go on about now again. Neutral

    You brought up the whole 'history' thing. Now i'm confused as hell and dunno what the fuck your talking about because i don't know La Liga's histroy, i was talking about La Liga in 09/10 and this season. Neutral
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    Post by Mario Tue Dec 21, 2010 4:13 am

    JMB_94 wrote:
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    Jamie wrote:Tbh, I just don't see how Real Madrid and Barcelona becoming almost unstoppable forces in the past 2-3 seasons is a bad thing.

    Makes the league boring and predictable, especially after 09/10.

    But thats not the point, that iPepe is denying that La Liga isn't a 2 team league at the moment, and he's going on about a bunch of random shit like how Real and Barca are the best teams in the world. Really confusing trying to argue with that guy, he just goes way off topic and turns the debate into a different topic. Neutral

    How am I changing the debate? You guys tend to go on about now, then the history, you lost the history argument then go on about now again. Neutral

    You brought up the whole 'history' thing. Now i'm confused as hell and dunno what the fuck your talking about because i don't know La Liga's histroy, i was talking about La Liga in 09/10 and this season. Neutral

    09/10 = history. Wink

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