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Glen Miller-
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Scott_LFC-
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Milner and Clyne would be good signings, but Ings and Benteke can fuck off.
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Liverpool 2015-16
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-Moreno----??????----???????----Clyne-
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Zzonked-
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Scott_LFC wrote:Milner and Clyne would be good signings, but Ings and Benteke can fuck off.
What's wrong with Benteke? He scored 12 goals in 12 games at the end of the season when his team started to attack more. I doubt you guys could do better.
Glen Miller-
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He's just very, very expensive.
Scott_LFC-
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Zzonked wrote:Scott_LFC wrote:Milner and Clyne would be good signings, but Ings and Benteke can fuck off.
What's wrong with Benteke? He scored 12 goals in 12 games at the end of the season when his team started to attack more. I doubt you guys could do better.
Carroll had similar stats when we signed him, IIRC - look how well that turned out.
Benteke seems to be very much a player who has purple patches. We need a consistent scorer, otherwise it will be akin to playing with 10 men for chunks of the season. I'd much rather we went all out for someone like Jackson Martinez or Carlos Tevez, who have great scoring rates.
Judging by who we've been been linked with so far this summer, we're gonna be playing something like this -
Ibe -Benteke - Sturridge
Coutinho
Milner - Henderson
Moreno - Sakho - Skrtel - Clyne
Mignolet
Coutinho
Milner - Henderson
Moreno - Sakho - Skrtel - Clyne
Mignolet
With the likes of Ings on the bench.
Depressing.
Keyser Söze-
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Jackson Martinez is not better than Benteke and Tevez is the wrong side of 30.
Scott_LFC-
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Keyser Söze wrote:Jackson Martinez is not better than Benteke and Tevez is the wrong side of 30.
Jackson Martinez scored 21 goals in 29 League appearances last season. (32 goals in 41 games in all competitions). The previous season, he scored 20 goals in the League - the season before that, 26 goals.
A much more impressive scoring rate than Benteke. A consistent goal-scorer is what we need and Jackson Martinez fits that profile.
Tevez is the wrong side of 30, correct, but as a short term fix, he would be a good signing, I think. See RVP at Man United. He led them to the PL title. Perhaps Tevez can lead us back into the top 4. When Suarez first arrived at Liverpool, after watching a few games, I felt that he was a Tevez-lite (obviously Suarez is on another level now) but having that sort of player back in our side would prove fruitful, imo.
Scott_LFC-
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In other news, we've apparently bid for Kovacic from Inter. Now that's a signing I can get behind. Would love to see him and Coutinho in the same side.
Keyser Söze-
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The Primeira Liga is poverty. Players like Benni McCarthy and Cardozo were scoring for fun in it. I hope you do sign him, save us from potentially bringing him in.Scott_LFC wrote:Keyser Söze wrote:Jackson Martinez is not better than Benteke and Tevez is the wrong side of 30.
Jackson Martinez scored 21 goals in 29 League appearances last season. (32 goals in 41 games in all competitions). The previous season, he scored 20 goals in the League - the season before that, 26 goals.
A much more impressive scoring rate than Benteke. A consistent goal-scorer is what we need and Jackson Martinez fits that profile.
Zzonked-
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Benteke is only a few goals short of one every 2 games, that is very consistent for a team like Villa who will be feeding on scraps in most games. They've been in relegation battles for the past 3 seasons. If he was in a more dominant team like Porto he would probably score more too. He is a gamble for Liverpool, but not because of his ability imo.
Scott_LFC-
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Keyser Söze wrote:The Primeira Liga is poverty. Players like Benni McCarthy and Cardozo were scoring for fun in it. I hope you do sign him, save us from potentially bringing him in.Scott_LFC wrote:
Jackson Martinez scored 21 goals in 29 League appearances last season. (32 goals in 41 games in all competitions). The previous season, he scored 20 goals in the League - the season before that, 26 goals.
A much more impressive scoring rate than Benteke. A consistent goal-scorer is what we need and Jackson Martinez fits that profile.
Neither of them had scoring rates as good as Jackson Martinez, though. And if it's so easy to score in that League, why isn't every striker posting 20+ goals per season?
People said the same about Suarez scoring loads for Ajax.
Scott_LFC-
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Zzonked wrote:Benteke is only a few goals short of one every 2 games, that is very consistent for a team like Villa who will be feeding on scraps in most games. They've been in relegation battles for the past 3 seasons. If he was in a more dominant team like Porto he would probably score more too. He is a gamble for Liverpool, but not because of his ability imo.
Last season he scored 13 in 28 games. The season before that, he scored 10 in 26 games. No thanks.
Keyser Söze-
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Scott_LFC wrote:Keyser Söze wrote:
The Primeira Liga is poverty. Players like Benni McCarthy and Cardozo were scoring for fun in it. I hope you do sign him, save us from potentially bringing him in.
Neither of them had scoring rates as good as Jackson Martinez, though. And if it's so easy to score in that League, why isn't every striker posting 20+ goals per season?
People said the same about Suarez scoring loads for Ajax.
Huh? Seriously Scott what kind of retarded logic is that? Obviously those strikers are worse than him, doesn't mean he's class.
Suarez had other sought after qualities besides he goalscoring, Martinez has nothing, and the Eredivisie is miles technically better than the Primeira Liga. Suarez had also just turned 24 and you signed him for something like £20million. Martinez will be 30 two months into the season and Porto will absolutely rinse any potential suitors for a fee. There's a reason everyone has ransacked Porto for their best players and left Martinez.
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Scott_LFC wrote:Keyser Söze wrote:Jackson Martinez is not better than Benteke and Tevez is the wrong side of 30.
Jackson Martinez scored 21 goals in 29 League appearances last season. (32 goals in 41 games in all competitions). The previous season, he scored 20 goals in the League - the season before that, 26 goals.
A much more impressive scoring rate than Benteke. A consistent goal-scorer is what we need and Jackson Martinez fits that profile.
Tevez is the wrong side of 30, correct, but as a short term fix, he would be a good signing, I think. See RVP at Man United. He led them to the PL title. Perhaps Tevez can lead us back into the top 4. When Suarez first arrived at Liverpool, after watching a few games, I felt that he was a Tevez-lite (obviously Suarez is on another level now) but having that sort of player back in our side would prove fruitful, imo.
There is no way Tevez would sign for you, even his greedy cunt of an agent said he wouldn't do that in 2009. Added to that Juventus are probably the only club in the world who hate Liverpool more than we do.
Scott_LFC wrote:Keyser Söze wrote:
The Primeira Liga is poverty. Players like Benni McCarthy and Cardozo were scoring for fun in it. I hope you do sign him, save us from potentially bringing him in.
Neither of them had scoring rates as good as Jackson Martinez, though. And if it's so easy to score in that League, why isn't every striker posting 20+ goals per season?
People said the same about Suarez scoring loads for Ajax.
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I haven't seen much of Jackson but almost every time I have seen him play, he has been excellent.
Theo Filippo-
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Scott_LFC wrote:Keyser Söze wrote:Jackson Martinez is not better than Benteke and Tevez is the wrong side of 30.
Jackson Martinez scored 21 goals in 29 League appearances last season. (32 goals in 41 games in all competitions). The previous season, he scored 20 goals in the League - the season before that, 26 goals.
A much more impressive scoring rate than Benteke. A consistent goal-scorer is what we need and Jackson Martinez fits that profile.
Tevez is the wrong side of 30, correct, but as a short term fix, he would be a good signing, I think. See RVP at Man United. He led them to the PL title. Perhaps Tevez can lead us back into the top 4. When Suarez first arrived at Liverpool, after watching a few games, I felt that he was a Tevez-lite (obviously Suarez is on another level now) but having that sort of player back in our side would prove fruitful, imo.
Zzonked-
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Benteke had 13 this season with Villa's most creative players being Bacuna, Delph, Weimann and N'Zogbia in that order. They're the best in the squad and they're total wank, 3/4 are barely Premiership quality. Martinez may be a better signing I have no idea, but Benteke is a good player. He may not work at Liverpool because he doesn't fit Rodger's style, but he has enough talent to be a good performer for a top 6 team.
Free_Mustache_Rides-
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Who has actually seen Jackson Martinez play regularly?
I don't know if he's changed his overall game in recent years but I used to watch him every week and he was more than a goalscorer.
I don't know if he's changed his overall game in recent years but I used to watch him every week and he was more than a goalscorer.
Zzonked-
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Free_Mustache_Rides wrote:Who has actually seen Jackson Martinez play regularly?
I don't know if he's changed his overall game in recent years but I used to watch him every week and he was more than a goalscorer.
My guess is that nobody has seen him play more than once or twice.
I personally only rarely watch games that aren't in England or the Champions league.
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Zzonked wrote:Free_Mustache_Rides wrote:Who has actually seen Jackson Martinez play regularly?
I don't know if he's changed his overall game in recent years but I used to watch him every week and he was more than a goalscorer.
My guess is that nobody has seen him play more than once or twice.
I personally only rarely watch games that aren't in England or the Champions league.
Ever? Or just this season?
Scott_LFC-
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Keyser Söze wrote:Scott_LFC wrote:
Neither of them had scoring rates as good as Jackson Martinez, though. And if it's so easy to score in that League, why isn't every striker posting 20+ goals per season?
People said the same about Suarez scoring loads for Ajax.
Huh? Seriously Scott what kind of retarded logic is that? Obviously those strikers are worse than him, doesn't mean he's class.
Suarez had other sought after qualities besides he goalscoring, Martinez has nothing, and the Eredivisie is miles technically better than the Primeira Liga. Suarez had also just turned 24 and you signed him for something like £20million. Martinez will be 30 two months into the season and Porto will absolutely rinse any potential suitors for a fee. There's a reason everyone has ransacked Porto for their best players and left Martinez.
Martinez is rated higher than Benteke on FIFA 15. Goodnight sweet Prince.
Theo Filippo wrote:Scott_LFC wrote:
Jackson Martinez scored 21 goals in 29 League appearances last season. (32 goals in 41 games in all competitions). The previous season, he scored 20 goals in the League - the season before that, 26 goals.
A much more impressive scoring rate than Benteke. A consistent goal-scorer is what we need and Jackson Martinez fits that profile.
Tevez is the wrong side of 30, correct, but as a short term fix, he would be a good signing, I think. See RVP at Man United. He led them to the PL title. Perhaps Tevez can lead us back into the top 4. When Suarez first arrived at Liverpool, after watching a few games, I felt that he was a Tevez-lite (obviously Suarez is on another level now) but having that sort of player back in our side would prove fruitful, imo.
What's so funny about that? A striker scoring around 20 in the League would have put us ahead of United, most likely. We finished only 8 points behind them (taking into account that we didn't even appear to make any attempt to try and win against Stoke in the 6-1 defeat), despite our strikers totalling about 7 goals between them all season.
Theo Filippo-
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That statement that I bolded suggests that we are talking about the future, not applying extreme hindsight to the previous season where you celebrated signing a player that scored less than Welbeck.
Scott_LFC-
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Theo Filippo wrote:That statement that I bolded suggests that we are talking about the future, not applying extreme hindsight to the previous season where you celebrated signing a player that scored less than Welbeck.
Rodgers didn't use him properly.
Keyser Söze-
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Not surprising considering he never wanted him. Which is something else you argued against and were wrong about.
Scott_LFC-
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Dejan Lovren is in the process of brainwashing Kovacic to come to Liverpool.
Scott_LFC-
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Opta- 12 - Liverpool have won 12 of 31 games (39%) when Steven Gerrard has started this season, compared to 13 of 21 (62%) when he hasn't. Info.
So glad he's fucked off. Hopefully it'll make a huge difference, if those stats are anything to go by.
So glad he's fucked off. Hopefully it'll make a huge difference, if those stats are anything to go by.
Scott_LFC-
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/liverpool-set-reappoint-pako-ayesteran-5836323
Finally, some exciting news. Really hope this actually happens. He's more qualified than Rodgers, so it'll be interesting to see what happens between them, as surely Rodgers will feel a bit intimidated? Far cry from the apparent yes-men he had beside him before (Pascoe and Marsh). He was also here during Rafa's most successful seasons. (Won the CL and the FA Cup). He's just won the domestic treble with Tel Aviv too.
Edit: Quite a few people speculating that he'll replace Rodgers, should our poor form continue.
Finally, some exciting news. Really hope this actually happens. He's more qualified than Rodgers, so it'll be interesting to see what happens between them, as surely Rodgers will feel a bit intimidated? Far cry from the apparent yes-men he had beside him before (Pascoe and Marsh). He was also here during Rafa's most successful seasons. (Won the CL and the FA Cup). He's just won the domestic treble with Tel Aviv too.
Edit: Quite a few people speculating that he'll replace Rodgers, should our poor form continue.
Scott_LFC-
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Glen Johnson's departure now official on the Liverpool website.
Finally.
Finally.
Glen Miller-
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Our greatest ever RB. Just a shame Barcelona kept Dani Alves otherwise he would have been nailed on for Barcelona.
