Danny Murphy - The Best English Midfielder of his Generation

Danny wrote:

Van Wolfswinkel wrote:



But yeah, could do better than Fulham, but not title contender standards. Top 6 team standard.

Newcastle are 6th in the Premier League. It's a given he wouldn't play for United, City, Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, but you really think he'd play over Tiote and Cabaye?

Jordo wrote:

Van Wolfswinkel wrote:



But yeah, could do better than Fulham, but not title contender standards. Top 6 team standard.

Nah.

He is 9-14th team level.

BladeGunner wrote:Well maybe you shouldn't assume something is trolling without being certain. And even when I tried having a civilized conversation with you, you still made snide remarks that didn't contribute to the conversation.

Sarmz wrote:Have I ever posted a gif in the middle of a debate? No you cockhead, I only ever post them in the chat thread when I'm pissing about.

kyro7 wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:Well maybe you shouldn't assume something is trolling without being certain. And even when I tried having a civilized conversation with you, you still made snide remarks that didn't contribute to the conversation.

Which snide remarks? And if someone claims Murphy is the only English player of his generation to be able to control a game, it's hard not to think it's trolling, I don't think you can blame me for that, I've done nothing wrong here at all, you just went on the full offensive and now know you were in the wrong, I gave my opinion just like you, and you started moaning at me for not proving it, when you did not prove it either.

kyro7 wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:

No, there is plenty of evidence. Passing ability isn't
something you acquire through training, it's a natural gift. The same
with vision and ball control. Danny Murphy has these things in
abundance. Not only would you easily be able to deduce that by watching a
couple of Fulham games, you can gather that from the statistics (even
though I don't like referring to them). They really do put him up there
with the likes of Silva, Touré, Song, Arteta and Modric. There's plenty
to support my case.

Oh, strong proof of him being as naturally
gifted then, well done.

BladeGunner wrote:I made concessions when Scholes was brought up and I never moaned about you not backing up your opinion, I just said that you didn't do it and you still haven't and I've certainly done more of a job of it than you have. And I'm not in the wrong, nor am I on the full offensive. If anything, I'm on the defensive after being confronted by all these inbred spastics who struggle to formulate two full sentences in a row.

BladeGunner wrote:

Sarmz wrote:Have I ever posted a gif in the middle of a debate? No you cockhead, I only ever post them in the chat thread when I'm pissing about.

That's because you've never been in a debate, mongoloid.

Zzonked wrote:As if people have took this seriously.

kyro7 wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:I made concessions when Scholes was brought up and I never moaned about you not backing up your opinion, I just said that you didn't do it and you still haven't and I've certainly done more of a job of it than you have. And I'm not in the wrong, nor am I on the full offensive. If anything, I'm on the defensive after being confronted by all these inbred spastics who struggle to formulate two full sentences in a row.

Don't worry about them, they're nothing to do with me, the reason I didn't back up my claim is because I don't believe there is any way of proving it, I could say something like Scholes has 91 percent pass succession this season and Murphy's is 82, that proves nothing, Scholes plays for a better team, there is no way of us saying something to each other that could actually change each others opinion so what's the point, all I can do is give you my point and it's what I did.

BladeGunner wrote:I do believe that he is. A player with more natural ability than both Gerrard and Lampard, as well as infinitely more tactical awareness. Probably the only English midfielder of his generation who could actually control the game with his passing. I think it's a crying shame that his development was compromised for the sake of an inferior player in Steven Gerrard. Had he born in a country like Spain, this kind of thing would have never happened. He would have been appreciated, nurtured and developed into one of the world's leading play-makers. Instead, he's been thrown at what has been an average side for the past decade where he has had to deal with players several levels below his footballing capabilities, and despite all that, he's still been one of the best and most consistent midfielders in the league.

What are your opinions on Danny Murphy? Are you capable of appreciating his phenomenal technical ability, or are you a tactical dinosaur and think that he belongs at a mid-table side like Fulham?

kyro7 wrote:Makes a thread about Danny Murphy, then goes on to say it was about all English players and it's our fault, haha, I'm done now, I think this started off as troll but you took it too far so now are changing it into something else.

BladeGunner wrote:I do believe that he is. A player with more natural ability than both Gerrard and Lampard, as well as infinitely more tactical awareness. Probably the only English midfielder of his generation who could actually control the game with his passing. I think it's a crying shame that his development was compromised for the sake of an inferior player in Steven Gerrard. Had he born in a country like Spain, this kind of thing would have never happened. He would have been appreciated, nurtured and developed into one of the world's leading play-makers. Instead, he's been thrown at what has been an average side for the past decade where he has had to deal with players several levels below his footballing capabilities, and despite all that, he's still been one of the best and most consistent midfielders in the league.

What are your opinions on Danny Murphy? Are you capable of appreciating his phenomenal technical ability, or are you a tactical dinosaur and think that he belongs at a mid-table side like Fulham?

All about Danny Murphy, yes, our fault, it does show concerns at English management of players but overall it's mostly about one single player who I've been discussing with you, you're such a plank.

BladeGunner wrote:Read the question I ask at the end. The intention wasn't to see whether you could prove if there was someone better than him, but you're too fucking stupid to not throw a fit about how he isn't anywhere near as good as your precious Paul fucking Scholes. Idiot.

kyro7 wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:Read the question I ask at the end. The intention wasn't to see whether you could prove if there was someone better than him, but you're too fucking stupid to not throw a fit about how he isn't anywhere near as good as your precious Paul fucking Scholes. Idiot.

Because after you made ridiculous claims the point got to Scholes which we both argued about.

For real now, I'm done with this (I mean it this time)

Glen Damon wrote:

May one of this forum's finest members rest in peace.

BladeGunner wrote:I do believe that he is. A player with more natural ability than both Gerrard and Lampard, as well as infinitely more tactical awareness. Probably the only English midfielder of his generation who could actually control the game with his passing. I think it's a crying shame that his development was compromised for the sake of an inferior player in Steven Gerrard. Had he born in a country like Spain, this kind of thing would have never happened. He would have been appreciated, nurtured and developed into one of the world's leading play-makers. Instead, he's been thrown at what has been an average side for the past decade where he has had to deal with players several levels below his footballing capabilities, and despite all that, he's still been one of the best and most consistent midfielders in the league.

What are your opinions on Danny Murphy? Are you capable of appreciating his phenomenal technical ability, or are you a tactical dinosaur and think that he belongs at a mid-table side like Fulham?

Scott wrote:

BladeGunner wrote:I do believe that he is. A player with more natural ability than both Gerrard and Lampard, as well as infinitely more tactical awareness. Probably the only English midfielder of his generation who could actually control the game with his passing. I think it's a crying shame that his development was compromised for the sake of an inferior player in Steven Gerrard. Had he born in a country like Spain, this kind of thing would have never happened. He would have been appreciated, nurtured and developed into one of the world's leading play-makers. Instead, he's been thrown at what has been an average side for the past decade where he has had to deal with players several levels below his footballing capabilities, and despite all that, he's still been one of the best and most consistent midfielders in the league.

What are your opinions on Danny Murphy? Are you capable of appreciating his phenomenal technical ability, or are you a tactical dinosaur and think that he belongs at a mid-table side like Fulham?

If you want to pull off a Liam style troll, you need perfect grammar. Better luck next time.

Point wrote:Had a good point about people not being able to debate properly on this forum and instead just resorting to one liners full of smilies and immaturity...

Been the problem for a while now, any threads made that could have some debate get hardly any posts made in them but the stupid threads get pages full.

Rick Rosstrich wrote:

Point wrote:Had a good point about people not being able to debate properly on this forum and instead just resorting to one liners full of smilies and immaturity...

Been the problem for a while now, any threads made that could have some debate get hardly any posts made in them but the stupid threads get pages full.

I totally agree. Most thread's outside of the football section work but anything inside it doesn't.