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Danny Murphy - The Best English Midfielder of his Generation
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The Manchester United supporting contingent need to stop being arrogant twats. You don't win a fucking argument by mentioning the name of a player. You do so by providing evidence, you condescending, narcissistic cockroaches. Not one shred of evidence has been provided so far to counter my points.
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So if he's not more naturally talented, Murphy's wasted his because he's ended up at Fulham, whereas Scholes (2 years older) comes out of retirement and proves he's still one of the best in the league.
Murphy.
Murphy.
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There is no way of proving Murphy is as naturally talented either, so basically you've made a thread about something neither of us can prove, but have an opinion on, I have given you my opinion and you're asking for proof, you are acting like a clown and I think you should give up on this one.BladeGunner wrote:kyro7 wrote:You can still be a very good player and be inferior to the best English midfielder of your generation, who is Paul Scholes, I don't need to prove anything, it's my opinion.BladeGunner wrote:
Can you prove it? How often do you watch Fulham play with Danny Murphy pulling the strings in midfield? If you often do, you'll have seen how excellent he is at controlling the game despite often being surrounded by players way below his level. His passing statistics speak for themselves. He's up there with the most accurate passers in the league and he's 35. What a fucking player.
No, you can't prove it because you cannot. I am aware that Paul Scholes has developed into the better player, but there is no way of proving that he is more naturally talented than Danny Murphy.
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Watch Scholes on the pitch, that'll prove who's better.
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kyro7 wrote:There is no way of proving Murphy is as naturally talented either, so basically you've made a thread about something neither of us can prove, but have an opinion on, I have given you my opinion and you're asking for proof, you are acting like a clown and I think you should give up on this one.BladeGunner wrote:
No, you can't prove it because you cannot. I am aware that Paul Scholes has developed into the better player, but there is no way of proving that he is more naturally talented than Danny Murphy.
No, there is plenty of evidence. Passing ability isn't something you acquire through training, it's a natural gift. The same with vision and ball control. Danny Murphy has these things in abundance. Not only would you easily be able to deduce that by watching a couple of Fulham games, you can gather that from the statistics (even though I don't like referring to them). They really do put him up there with the likes of Silva, Touré, Song, Arteta and Modric. There's plenty to support my case.
Danny, you're a fucking wanker. It's no wonder you failed so miserably in your exams, you utter waste of fucking space.
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Paul Scholes is in the heart of many Premier League, and Champions League winning teams.
Danny Murphy is in the heart of teams at Europa League standard, at best.
Danny Murphy is in the heart of teams at Europa League standard, at best.
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Hopefully your fingers fall off so we don't have to read any more of this shite.
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Jordo wrote:Paul Scholes is in the heart of many Premier League, and Champions League winning teams.
Danny Murphy is in the heart of teams at Europa League standard, at best.
Idiot, completely missing the point.
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Oh, strong proof of him being as naturally gifted then, well done.BladeGunner wrote:kyro7 wrote:There is no way of proving Murphy is as naturally talented either, so basically you've made a thread about something neither of us can prove, but have an opinion on, I have given you my opinion and you're asking for proof, you are acting like a clown and I think you should give up on this one.BladeGunner wrote:
No, you can't prove it because you cannot. I am aware that Paul Scholes has developed into the better player, but there is no way of proving that he is more naturally talented than Danny Murphy.
No, there is plenty of evidence. Passing ability isn't something you acquire through training, it's a natural gift. The same with vision and ball control. Danny Murphy has these things in abundance. Not only would you easily be able to deduce that by watching a couple of Fulham games, you can gather that from the statistics (even though I don't like referring to them). They really do put him up there with the likes of Silva, Touré, Song, Arteta and Modric. There's plenty to support my case.
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BladeGunner wrote:Jordo wrote:Paul Scholes is in the heart of many Premier League, and Champions League winning teams.
Danny Murphy is in the heart of teams at Europa League standard, at best.
Idiot, completely missing the point.
Fuck off, you massive WUM.
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kyro7 wrote:Oh, strong proof of him being as naturally gifted then, well done.BladeGunner wrote:
No, there is plenty of evidence. Passing ability isn't something you acquire through training, it's a natural gift. The same with vision and ball control. Danny Murphy has these things in abundance. Not only would you easily be able to deduce that by watching a couple of Fulham games, you can gather that from the statistics (even though I don't like referring to them). They really do put him up there with the likes of Silva, Touré, Song, Arteta and Modric. There's plenty to support my case.
Yes, it is.
Oh, strong counter-argument to refute my points then, well done.
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Jordo wrote:BladeGunner wrote:
Idiot, completely missing the point.
Fuck off, you massive WUM.
Useless cunt, just like the majority of this forum. Barely any of you can argue to save your lives. All you do is post incoherent horseshit that is often accompanied by inane smileys.
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No, you're being an idiot, you made a thread saying he's the best English player of his generation, we then all came to the agreement that he is in fact not, then you drop to him being as naturally gifted, which no stat can prove, but only an opinion can be formed after watching them and seeing how they work, for me Scholes is far and away the better player, the way he has transformed his game over his career is unbelievable, and the fact he's been doing this all at the TOP level for so long is unbelievable, but none of this can prove he is more naturally gifted, not his passing percentages, not how he's gone on to be one of the most successful English players, none of it.. so what's the point of me trying to prove something that isn't possible of being proven, because your attempt at proving Murphy to be as naturally gifted was laughable and proved absolutely nothing, I'm happy for you to believe whatever you want but I've given you my opinion and that's all I can do on something like this.BladeGunner wrote:kyro7 wrote:Oh, strong proof of him being as naturally gifted then, well done.BladeGunner wrote:
No, there is plenty of evidence. Passing ability isn't something you acquire through training, it's a natural gift. The same with vision and ball control. Danny Murphy has these things in abundance. Not only would you easily be able to deduce that by watching a couple of Fulham games, you can gather that from the statistics (even though I don't like referring to them). They really do put him up there with the likes of Silva, Touré, Song, Arteta and Modric. There's plenty to support my case.
Yes, it is.
Oh, strong counter-argument to refute my points then, well done.
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I've missed Blade's debating skills, just swear and call people cockroaches until they agree with you
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BladeGunner wrote:Jordo wrote:
Fuck off, you massive WUM.
Useless cunt, just like the majority of this forum. Barely any of you can argue to save your lives. All you do is post incoherent horseshit that is often accompanied by inane smileys.
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Jordo wrote:BladeGunner wrote:
Useless cunt, just like the majority of this forum. Barely any of you can argue to save your lives. All you do is post incoherent horseshit that is often accompanied by inane smileys.
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Forget Englishmen... The player with the highest pass percentage in the Premier League this season is a man full of flair, trickery and more talent in his right foot than any PL player has in his body.. I am of course talking about the man with a 100% pass completion rate this season, the man who took a struggling team by the scruff of the neck and improved it..
It is of course
3/3 passes this season.
It is of course
3/3 passes this season.
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Danny wrote:Only English midfielder of his generation who can control a game.
Somewhere in Cheshire Paul Scholes is crying.
My father lives in Cheshire.
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kyro7 wrote:No, you're being an idiot, you made a thread saying he's the best English player of his generation, we then all came to the agreement that he is in fact not, then you drop to him being as naturally gifted, which no stat can prove, but only an opinion can be formed after watching them and seeing how they work, for me Scholes is far and away the better player, the way he has transformed his game over his career is unbelievable, and the fact he's been doing this all at the TOP level for so long is unbelievable, but none of this can prove he is more naturally gifted, not his passing percentages, not how he's gone on to be one of the most successful English players, none of it.. so what's the point of me trying to prove something that isn't possible of being proven, because your attempt at proving Murphy to be as naturally gifted was laughable and proved absolutely nothing, I'm happy for you to believe whatever you want but I've given you my opinion and that's all I can do on something like this.BladeGunner wrote:
Yes, it is.
Oh, strong counter-argument to refute my points then, well done.
Apologies if my title was slightly sensationalist. Natural ability is what I intended to address the entire time. I've already acknowledged that Scholes has indeed developed into a better player.
If you're so protective of your right to express your views, then why have you incessantly attempted to try and ridicule my own. You're right, it's not exactly black and white and it might be impossible to prove it. However, I've argued my case, backed it with evidence and almost all I've received are stupid smileys and petty insults.
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Can you show me where I've mocked your opinion here? I gave you some shit at first because what you said was completely misleading as it looked like you were trolling to the maximum, after it was clarified all I did was give you my opinion..BladeGunner wrote:If you're so protective of your right to express your views, then why have you incessantly attempted to try and ridicule my own. You're right, it's not exactly black and white and it might be impossible to prove it. However, I've argued my case, backed it with evidence and almost all I've received are stupid smileys and petty insults.
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you must be new here
these type of threads are so 2010
go neck yourself blade gunner noob
these type of threads are so 2010
go neck yourself blade gunner noob
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Jordo wrote:BladeGunner wrote:
Useless cunt, just like the majority of this forum. Barely any of you can argue to save your lives. All you do is post incoherent horseshit that is often accompanied by inane smileys.
But yeah, could do better than Fulham, but not title contender standards. Top 6 team standard.
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Sarmz wrote:I've missed Blade's debating skills, just swear and call people cockroaches until they agree with you
Yeah, what are your debating skills like? Repeatedly posting paedophilic images until the opponent submits?
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Mauro has spoken. Lock this here.mauro=beast wrote:you must be new here
these type of threads are so 2010
go neck yourself blade gunner noob
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Van Wolfswinkel wrote:Jordo wrote:
But yeah, could do better than Fulham, but not title contender standards. Top 6 team standard.
Nah.
He is 9-14th team level.
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Newcastle are 6th in the Premier League. It's a given he wouldn't play for United, City, Arsenal, Spurs and Chelsea, but you really think he'd play over Tiote and Cabaye?Van Wolfswinkel wrote:Jordo wrote:
But yeah, could do better than Fulham, but not title contender standards. Top 6 team standard.
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BladeGunner wrote:Sarmz wrote:I've missed Blade's debating skills, just swear and call people cockroaches until they agree with you
Yeah, what are your debating skills like? Repeatedly posting paedophilic images until the opponent submits?
I was not aware being attracted to a 19 year old made me a paedophile
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kyro7 wrote:Can you show me where I've mocked your opinion here? I gave you some shit at first because what you said was completely misleading as it looked like you were trolling to the maximum, after it was clarified all I did was give you my opinion..BladeGunner wrote:If you're so protective of your right to express your views, then why have you incessantly attempted to try and ridicule my own. You're right, it's not exactly black and white and it might be impossible to prove it. However, I've argued my case, backed it with evidence and almost all I've received are stupid smileys and petty insults.
Well maybe you shouldn't assume something is trolling without being certain. And even when I tried having a civilized conversation with you, you still made snide remarks that didn't contribute to the conversation.
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Sarmz wrote:BladeGunner wrote:
Yeah, what are your debating skills like? Repeatedly posting paedophilic images until the opponent submits?
I was not aware being attracted to a 19 year old made me a paedophile
Let's give you the benefit of the doubt and say they're not paedophilic, what exactly do they contribute to a football forum?
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Have I ever posted a gif in the middle of a debate? No you cockhead, I only ever post them in the chat thread when I'm pissing about.