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Liverpool FC Official Thread
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We just need a nice easy run to get to a final and get a team like Birmingham in the final.
Grenade-
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Scott wrote:Chris wrote:
Will we still be living?
Probably not, considering how shit Arsenal are at winning trophies these days.
Both Liverpool and Arsenal have both been shit at winning trophies these last few years
But still,
16 points clear
WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED !!!111!
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What was your run last season in the Carling Cup? Out of interest.
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Tottenham, Newcastle away, Wigan at home, Ipswich semis
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Grenade wrote:Scott wrote:
Probably not, considering how shit Arsenal are at winning trophies these days.
Both Liverpool and Arsenal have both been shit at winning trophies these last few years
But still,
16 points clear
WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED !!!111!
We've won one already this season, and are in the Semi Final of another.
Anyway, credit to Arsenal for making the gap that big, but we're in relegation form at the moment, whereas you're in title winning form. That kind of thing makes gaps massive in short periods of time.
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The game vs Spurs was nice .
Grenade-
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Yeah you're in the semi's but you're all acting as if you've already won itScott wrote:Grenade wrote:
Both Liverpool and Arsenal have both been shit at winning trophies these last few years
But still,
16 points clear
WE SHALL NOT BE MOVED !!!111!
We've won one already this season, and are in the Semi Final of another.
Anyway, credit to Arsenal for making the gap that big, but we're in relegation form at the moment, whereas you're in title winning form. That kind of thing makes gaps massive in short periods of time.
Why the but ? You basically just said Arsenal have been better so far this season, hence the league position.
CRAIG WHYTEE !!!11!!
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Grenade wrote:Yeah you're in the semi's but you're all acting as if you've already won itScott wrote:
We've won one already this season, and are in the Semi Final of another.
Anyway, credit to Arsenal for making the gap that big, but we're in relegation form at the moment, whereas you're in title winning form. That kind of thing makes gaps massive in short periods of time.
Why the but ? You basically just said Arsenal have been better so far this season, hence the league position.
CRAIG WHYTEE !!!11!!
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I think there's no point saying the Carling Cup is better than the premier league, because it just isn't
We've both got our problems, but football is football
2-5 win at WHL...dafuq?
We've both got our problems, but football is football
2-5 win at WHL...dafuq?
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All time league table.
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samiz wrote:WowScott wrote:We're 16 points behind Arsenal
If Kenny doesn't win the FA Cup (I don't think he will), I don't think he deserves another season tbh.
5 Liverpool | Pld 38 | W 12 | D 4 | L 3 | F 31 | A 15 | W 5 | D 3 | L 11 | F 21 | A 26 | PTS 58 | GD +11 |
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Eternal Witcher wrote:Cadbury wrote:
All time league table.
Fuck.Yes.
I'm so fucking happy right now.
Grenade-
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Alan wrote:samiz wrote:
Wow
If Kenny doesn't win the FA Cup (I don't think he will), I don't think he deserves another season tbh.Rafa,s first full League season at Liverpool yet he got more time and he did improve Liverpool's League form. Yes Liverpool's League form has been rubbish, but Kenny has won us our first cup in 6 years and has got us into the FA Cup semi final, so why would we not give him at least another season to try and improve our League form.
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Fuck off Alan
His failure in the transfer market should get him sacked alone. If he doesn't get sacked then brilliant, Liverpool will never be a threat to the top 4 with him in-charge imo, unless he drastically changes his approach and policy.
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Comparing Rafa's first season to Kenny's is a bit odd.
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Grenade wrote:Alan wrote:Rafa,s first full League season at Liverpool yet he got more time and he did improve Liverpool's League form. Yes Liverpool's League form has been rubbish, but Kenny has won us our first cup in 6 years and has got us into the FA Cup semi final, so why would we not give him at least another season to try and improve our League form.
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Fuck off Alan
His failure in the transfer market should get him sacked alone. If he doesn't get sacked then brilliant, Liverpool will never be a threat to the top 4 with him in-charge imo, unless he drastically changes his approach and policy.
Failure in the transfer market ...
Suarez, Enrique, Bellamy and Coates were very good signings.
Adam, Downing and Henderson, indifferent. I'd give them another season before writing them off completely. Though, Henderson, I feel, will be a big player for us in the future. Downing has been brighter these last few games and is starting to show what he can do. Adam is just .. not the player he was last season.
Carroll is the only crazy one, especially considering we spent 35 million.
I wouldn't say Kenny failed in the transfer market. If anything, I'd say his signings failed him. Downing, Henderson and Adam were 'player of the year' for their clubs last season. They've failed to bring/continue that form here.
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Grenade wrote:Alan wrote:
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Rafa,s first full League season at Liverpool yet he got more time and he did improve Liverpool's League form. Yes Liverpool's League form has been rubbish, but Kenny has won us our first cup in 6 years and has got us into the FA Cup semi final, so why would we not give him at least another season to try and improve our League form.
Fuck off Alan
His failure in the transfer market should get him sacked alone. If he doesn't get sacked then brilliant, Liverpool will never be a threat to the top 4 with him in-charge imo, unless he drastically changes his approach and policy.
Fuck off Grenade Yes his signings have not set things on fire in the league and he spent a lot of money, but he was adding to a team and a squad that had finished 6th and 7th the year before and even though some of those players have not played well this season it takes time for a team and a squad to gell, and especially when a lot of the new signings are playing most of the games. And the club has went through a time of change with the new owners, on and off the park after years of not knowing what was going on behind the scene's. And there have been managers before who have not had the greatest starts and have won nothing, but given time they eventually proved themselves.
Ive never said its a certainty that Kenny Dalglish will be the man to lead us back into the top 4, but after winning us a cup and getting us to another Semi Final and having a chance of another trophy he at least deserves another season to see if we can change that cup form into our League form.
Alex Ferguson finished 11th and then 13th in the League, but given time he changed the entire club around then went on to win the FA Cup and won a few cups before he got United really challenging for a League title.
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Scott wrote:Grenade wrote:
Fuck off Alan
His failure in the transfer market should get him sacked alone. If he doesn't get sacked then brilliant, Liverpool will never be a threat to the top 4 with him in-charge imo, unless he drastically changes his approach and policy.
Failure in the transfer market ...
Suarez, Enrique, Bellamy and Coates were very good signings.
Adam, Downing and Henderson, indifferent. I'd give them another season before writing them off completely. Though, Henderson, I feel, will be a big player for us in the future. Downing has been brighter these last few games and is starting to show what he can do. Adam is just .. not the player he was last season.
Carroll is the only crazy one, especially considering we spent 35 million.
I wouldn't say Kenny failed in the transfer market. If anything, I'd say his signings failed him. Downing, Henderson and Adam were 'player of the year' for their clubs last season. They've failed to bring/continue that form here.
It's not up for debate. He's messed up with the transfers.
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Cadbury wrote:Eternal Witcher wrote:
Fuck.Yes.
I'm so fucking happy right now.
What is one mediocre season, compared to that? Just makes you see everything in a new light.
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Eternal Witcher wrote:Scott wrote:
Failure in the transfer market ...
Suarez, Enrique, Bellamy and Coates were very good signings.
Adam, Downing and Henderson, indifferent. I'd give them another season before writing them off completely. Though, Henderson, I feel, will be a big player for us in the future. Downing has been brighter these last few games and is starting to show what he can do. Adam is just .. not the player he was last season.
Carroll is the only crazy one, especially considering we spent 35 million.
I wouldn't say Kenny failed in the transfer market. If anything, I'd say his signings failed him. Downing, Henderson and Adam were 'player of the year' for their clubs last season. They've failed to bring/continue that form here.
It's not up for debate. He's messed up with the transfers.
Lol, so the points I made in my post just don't matter do they?
I still feel that the players let Kenny down.
Anyway who the fuck else could we have bought?
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Scott wrote:Eternal Witcher wrote:
It's not up for debate. He's messed up with the transfers.
Lol, so the points I made in my post just don't matter do they?
I still feel that the players let Kenny down.
Anyway who the fuck else could we have bought?
Konchesky, Poulsen, Cole, Jovanoich let Roy down.
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Why is it odd, just because Kenny has spent more cash. Rafa in his 3rd season finished 3rd but still lost 10 League games. Yes Rafa did not spend as much cash by then and had problems inside the club, but he was given time and eventually built a team and a squad capable to challenge for the League title. I still think the worst thing that happened at Liverpool was that those clowns who were in charge, never gave Rafa the cash to build on that team and squad that finished 2nd to United.Cadbury wrote:Comparing Rafa's first season to Kenny's is a bit odd.
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Yes Kenny's signings have not been great in the league, but everybody see's the cash that has been spent and yes they have the right at times. But new players need time to gell and especially when there are so many playing in the first team together, and hopefully thats one of the main reasons we have been so un consistent in our league form. But most football teams i can remember need time for the people in charge to get things correct and for player to gell together as a team, and im hoping thats going to be the same for Kenny although there are know certainty thats going to be the case.
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Scott wrote:Eternal Witcher wrote:
It's not up for debate. He's messed up with the transfers.
Lol, so the points I made in my post just don't matter do they?
I still feel that the players let Kenny down.
Anyway who the fuck else could we have bought?
When a manager takes a big gamble like that, he should take the responsibility because it was his decision to take the risk. Carroll hasn't lived up to his massive billing, Kenny's fault. 20 million on a ordinary winger unproven at the higher levels of the league, Kenny's fault. 17 million on a relative youngster, Kenny's fault if it doesn't turn out well.Seven million is still too much for what Adam has shown. In case you missed my point, it's his fault. He should face the consequences for gambling so much on such...uninspired signings.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Suarez was not one of Kenny's signings. Enrique was an alright signing (he's been god awful recently though) but the rest were average or just shit. Henderson is 21 man, if he's shit at this age then I doubt he will ever be a key player for you in the future (unless you're willing to settle for mediocre players). Downing is useless, he only produces against shit teams. Its Kenny's fault for buying into this "player of the season" shit and at the end of the day, he's accountable for any signings that fail. I can't believe you're actually trying to defend his transfer activity.Scott wrote:
Failure in the transfer market ...
Suarez, Enrique, Bellamy and Coates were very good signings.
Adam, Downing and Henderson, indifferent. I'd give them another season before writing them off completely. Though, Henderson, I feel, will be a big player for us in the future. Downing has been brighter these last few games and is starting to show what he can do. Adam is just .. not the player he was last season.
Carroll is the only crazy one, especially considering we spent 35 million.
I wouldn't say Kenny failed in the transfer market. If anything, I'd say his signings failed him. Downing, Henderson and Adam were 'player of the year' for their clubs last season. They've failed to bring/continue that form here.
Come on Alan that's the point. He spent over £100m and arguably ended up with an inferior squad than last seasons,and it looks like you're finishing in the same position in the league after spending £100m which a total failure.Alan wrote:
Fuck off Grenade Yes his signings have not set things on fire in the league and he spent a lot of money, but he was adding to a team and a squad that had finished 6th and 7th the year before and even though some of those players have not played well this season it takes time for a team and a squad to gell, and especially when a lot of the new signings are playing most of the games. And the club has went through a time of change with the new owners, on and off the park after years of not knowing what was going on behind the scene's. And there have been managers before who have not had the greatest starts and have won nothing, but given time they eventually proved themselves.
Ive never said its a certainty that Kenny Dalglish will be the man to lead us back into the top 4, but after winning us a cup and getting us to another Semi Final and having a chance of another trophy he at least deserves another season to see if we can change that cup form into our League form.
Alex Ferguson finished 11th and then 13th in the League, but given time he changed the entire club around then went on to win the FA Cup and won a few cups before he got United really challenging for a League title.
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"Enrique was an allright signing". Just as bad. One bad patch reflecting the rest of the team and he descends to a 'decent' signing.
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One good patch reflects he's the best in the league though?Eternal Witcher wrote:"Enrique was an allright signing". Just as bad. One bad patch reflecting the rest of the team and he descends to a 'decent' signing.
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Kenny is responsible for how well his signings perform. Its not the players fault that they were put under such high (and unrealistic) expectations and fail to deliver. In regards to who you could have bought instead, well if Kenny stuck that pathetic British transfer policy up his ass and actually shopped for the best players possible regardless of their nationality or league then the possibilities are endless to be honest.Scott wrote:Eternal Witcher wrote:
It's not up for debate. He's messed up with the transfers.
Lol, so the points I made in my post just don't matter do they?
I still feel that the players let Kenny down.
Anyway who the fuck else could we have bought?
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Bad patch ? He's been performing terribly recently and before that he was average to be honest. For £7m there was nothing special about this signing.Eternal Witcher wrote:"Enrique was an allright signing". Just as bad. One bad patch reflecting the rest of the team and he descends to a 'decent' signing.
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Grenade wrote:Bad patch ? He's been performing terribly recently and before that he was average to be honest. For £7m there was nothing special about this signing.Eternal Witcher wrote:"Enrique was an allright signing". Just as bad. One bad patch reflecting the rest of the team and he descends to a 'decent' signing.
I just remembered, you're the guy who said Santon was doing great for Newcastle when he hadn't had a game yet at that time. Looks like I'll have to pass on your opinion regarding left-backs.