Keegan left because he is a bit funny in the head. Some hoopla over changing us to a PLC, not sure really. The fact remains that Kenny Dalglish flogged our best players and bought aged dross. Take Ginola for Barnes. The buck stops with him.Alan wrote:So why did Keegan not stay and win something, with this great team and squad that had threw away a 14 point lead over Manchester United. Yes Dalglish made lots of mistakes at Newcastle, but he had started the season with 2 draws in the League and then got the sack. And Mr Gullit did not exactly set things on fire when he took over at the toon.Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:
He sold all of our best players, and bought old rubbish ones... Along with his son, less said about him the better.
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Jord wrote:Who else do we play in the states? Aren't we having our pre-season there?
They haven't announced the other games yet.
http://www.lfctour.com/
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And on that note.. I got offered my 1st professional contract at Liverpool Fc today !!! #happy
And on that note.. I got offered my 1st professional contract at Liverpool Fc today !!! #happy
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And on that note.. I got offered my 1st professional contract at Liverpool Fc today !!! #happy
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Glen Damon wrote:You haven't heard of Henoc?Cam wrote:Who?
Odd.
No, I haven't.
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Who is Henoc? I'm guessing he's black.
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Henoc John Mukendi
18 years old
Striker/Left Winger
I sense failure in him.
18 years old
Striker/Left Winger
I sense failure in him.
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Yes, he definitely looks to be in the Carlton Cole mold.
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Jord wrote:Henoc John Mukendi
18 years old
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I sense failure in him.
Too easy, must be a trap. I will resist the chance for a dig.
Wait, didn't see the previous posts.
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Thank you.Mustangt125 wrote:You guys are hilarious
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Why did Dalglish sell these players, and why did he bring in the likes of Barnes and Ian Rush on free transfers, yes he made mistakes but its not all as black and white and its made out to be.Big_Lad_Pardew wrote:Keegan left because he is a bit funny in the head. Some hoopla over changing us to a PLC, not sure really. The fact remains that Kenny Dalglish flogged our best players and bought aged dross. Take Ginola for Barnes. The buck stops with him.Alan wrote:So why did Keegan not stay and win something, with this great team and squad that had threw away a 14 point lead over Manchester United. Yes Dalglish made lots of mistakes at Newcastle, but he had started the season with 2 draws in the League and then got the sack. And Mr Gullit did not exactly set things on fire when he took over at the toon.
The chief problem for Dalglish on Tyneside was that he wasn't Keegan
Failure is always more box-office than success. There have been eight films made about the Titanic's one voyage and none at all about her sister ship, Olympic, nicknamed "The Old Reliable". It is why Brian Clough's 44 days at Leeds are always picked over and why Jose Mourinho's nine games at the helm of Benfica fascinate in the light of what was to follow.
His 20 months at Newcastle United are the only part of Kenny Dalglish's career that came anywhere near failure, although this week he remarked that when he thought of St James' Park: "I can put my head on my pillow and go to sleep. I gave it my best."
In January 1997, their epic failure to win the title still lingered in the air above St James' Park along with the smell of yeast from their sponsors and neighbours, Newcastle Breweries. Dalglish's last job at Blackburn had seen him become the third man, after Herbert Chapman and Clough, to win the title with two different clubs. It needed just a touch on the tiller.
He threw himself into the task. One writer remembers calling in at Dalglish's home near Durham, where his televisions were wired into virtually every available European football channel. Perhaps he tried too hard. Before the 1998 FA Cup final against Arsenal, his players said Dalglish became obsessed by the pace of Marc Overmars and switched left-footed Alessandro Pistone to right-back, with traumatic consequences.
Two games into the next season, neither of which Newcastle lost, Dalglish was sacked. The timing, everyone agreed, was sheer lunacy but the club's directors have long shown themselves to be chronically impatient men.
As he did on his return to Liverpool, Dalglish made an immediate impact, arriving in January and driving a faltering club into the Champions' League. The academy and reserve teams, neglected and scrapped by Kevin Keegan, were reinstated. Newcastle still figured in a list of potential champions. The summer spending had been heavy.
However, Dalglish's chief problem was that he was not Keegan. One supporter, spotting him in the dug-out at St James', said it was "like seeing someone in bed with wor lass". Then, the overblown talk of "The Geordie Nation", fanned by the club president Sir John Hall, was at its height. Keegan had been the perfect frontman for the club's self-image of Barcelona-on-Tyne. He was as open and engaging as the young Tony Blair. Dalglish was more Gordon Brown, crabbed and suspicious. His most celebrated media moment was allowing himself to be interviewed by Jeremy Paxman on Newsnight. Nine years after Hillsborough, Dalglish explained his unwillingness to play an FA Cup tie at Stevenage because of safety issues surrounding the temporary stands at the non-League club. He made a decent argument but all anyone could remember in a car-crash of an interview was Paxman's opening question: "You're a big girl's blouse?"
Later, he would be pinned by questions about his response to "Toongate" when the chairman, Freddy Shepherd, and Hall's son, Douglas, had been entrapped by the News of the World's fake sheikh, Mazher Mahmood, boasting about how little the replica shirts that were sold on Tyneside by the truckload cost to make and how Geordie women were "dogs".
It would have taken a brave man to condemn his employers, especially one struggling against relegation as Dalglish then was. His loyalty did him little good but his silence was held against him by those who wore the shirts in the Gallowgate End.
So too were some poor transfers. The £15m transfer of Alan Shearer – then a world record – had exhausted the club financially. Bringing in ageing stars such as John Barnes and Ian Rush while banishing the brilliance of David Ginola smacked of jobs for some elderly boys. Stuart Pearce, who joined Newcastle at the same time, thought it a mistake. "When John Barnes, Ian Rush and I went to Newcastle together, I felt I went as a professional to further my career, while they went to finish theirs," he said.
Neither did Pearce think much of Dalglish's training methods. He felt he missed having Ray Harford, his coach at Blackburn. There were too many five-a-sides and too little focus. None of the young players brought in – from Des Hamilton to Stephen Glass – made any kind of impact. At one reserve game, Ruud Gullit sat in the press box at Kingston Park and predicted where and when Andreas Andersson, another player signed by his predecessor, would lose the ball.
There was also far too little luck. Dalglish's fate was probably sealed on the afternoon of 27 July 1997 when in a pre-season tournament at Goodison Park, Alan Shearer, with no defender anywhere near him, slipped and wrecked his ankle ligaments.
On the same afternoon, Les Ferdinand was completing his move to Tottenham. Ferdinand was 31 and £6m was a decent price but, at a stroke, Newcastle were deprived of a partnership that had brought 49 goals the season before. Not even a man of Dalglish's gifts could make good that loss. It was a hole beneath the waterline.
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I felt sorry for the hypnotist I saw last night. He hypnotised 7 men then dropped the microphone on his foot and yelled Fuck Me!
What happened next will haunt me forever.
Sorry just had to post this as i found it quite funny.
What happened next will haunt me forever.
Sorry just had to post this as i found it quite funny.
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That's a good oneAlan wrote:I felt sorry for the hypnotist I saw last night. He hypnotised 7 men then dropped the microphone on his foot and yelled Fuck Me!
What happened next will haunt me forever.
Sorry just had to post this as i found it quite funny.
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Yeh but you're on par with us scott just bad luck init.Scott wrote:We're 16 points behind Arsenal
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How can you guys explain the poor performances of your fantastic and quite shrewd transfers?
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WowScott wrote:We're 16 points behind Arsenal
If Kenny doesn't win the FA Cup (I don't think he will), I don't think he deserves another season tbh.
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Chris wrote:Yeh but you're on par with us scott just bad luck init.Scott wrote:We're 16 points behind Arsenal
Come back when you add another trophy to your cabinet.
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Will we still be living?Scott wrote:Chris wrote:
Yeh but you're on par with us scott just bad luck init.
Come back when you add another trophy to your cabinet.
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Chris wrote:Will we still be living?Scott wrote:
Come back when you add another trophy to your cabinet.
Probably not, considering how shit Arsenal are at winning trophies these days.