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    Post by crump Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:59 am

    Hmmm, I would like to see:

    Chamakh
    Chamberlain Arshavin Gervinho

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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:00 am

    crump wrote:Hmmm, I would like to see:

    Chamakh
    Chamberlain Arshavin Gervinho

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    Post by crump Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:02 am

    Splashy wrote:
    crump wrote:Hmmm, I would like to see:

    Chamakh
    Chamberlain Arshavin Gervinho

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    Post by Andy Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:03 am

    crump wrote:Hmmm, I would like to see:

    Chamakh
    Chamberlain Arshavin Gervinho

    think Crazy 2
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    Post by crump Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:07 am

    Why does nobody rate Chamakh? Andy, why are you doing those emotions at that firing line? That is a strong line up.
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    Post by Walcott Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:10 am

    Thinkin of it, cant see Gibbs startin again after so long out. Probably someone like Miguel if he's not injured.
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    Post by crump Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:11 am

    God damn it's even more annoying we can't play players because of tiredness due to a game in a 2 leg tie which we're out of Fuck you
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    Post by Gegilworld93 Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:13 am

    Maybe people who think Chamakh is completely shit haven't seen him with Bordeaux or in his first few games for us. Sadly he seems to have forgotten how to play football in the meantime Sad. He should do well with Arshavin behind him where I want to see him play again. Robin might need a rest to be fresh for Spurs next week, so Chamakh could be a realistic option.
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    Post by Marvin Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:14 am

    Kinda surprised Park hasn't played at all, pretty much.
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    Post by Gegilworld93 Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:15 am

    Marvin wrote:Kinda surprised Park hasn't played at all, pretty much.
    Yeah, well after his goal in the Carling Cup he made the bench instead of Chamakh a few times, that's about it then.
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    Post by crump Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:25 am

    Gegilworld93 wrote:
    Marvin wrote:Kinda surprised Park hasn't played at all, pretty much.
    Yeah, well after his goal in the Carling Cup he made the bench instead of Chamakh a few times, that's about it then.

    That was a hell of a finish too. He leaves us in a year and a half to do his military service for North Korea.

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    Post by Theo Filippo Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:33 am

    Arise destroyed Quilo Laughing

    I don't consider Gibbs a starter at all. Would rather Santos not that I'm happy he is our starting left back Laughing
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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:33 am

    Doesn't he want to leave at the end of the season anyway. We should of loaned him to Fulham while we had the chance.
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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:45 am

    Novi, The Creator wrote:Doesn't he want to leave at the end of the season anyway. We should of loaned him to Fulham while we had the chance.
    Are you talking about Gibbs, Chamakh or Park?

    Tbh I hope all 3 of them leave, nothing personal against Park and I kinda feel bad for him but he was never going to be our first choice.
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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:09 pm

    What happened to Blackskar?
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    Post by The Zlatan Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:10 pm

    Did you not hear? Surprised
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    Post by Theo Filippo Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:10 pm

    Same person as Point shifty
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:54 pm

    Marvin wrote:Kinda surprised Park hasn't played at all, pretty much.

    I'll answer that question without seeming too drunk...

    No
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    Post by The_Quilo Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:26 pm

    AriseForLife wrote:
    The_Quilo wrote:Sorry Arsenal fans, but if you continue down this road, you will be playing Europa League football in the blink of an eye.
    No shit. Way to state the obvious.
    There is only one escape, sacking Wenger. Despite his undeniable football genius, he needs to go. He is "allowing mediocrity to breed at Arsenal". A big reason for this is his dismal transfer policy.
    This would be idiotic. Sacking a manager doesn't cure problems, it creates them. The fix is simple. Reduce his power to being just the manager and have a manager of football operations brought in much like when David Dein was there and Arsene only worried about the team and nothing else.
    The talent level of player at the clubs is declining year after year. "Wenger, over time, has allowed the standard to drop so low at Arsenal that players who were once derided as liabilities are now championed as their strongest assets." Why are players like Djourou even on the pitch, or at the club, for that matter?
    Many people ask this question, but the talent level is not declining, its stagnant which is the problem. Arsenal are staying the same while other clubs are getting better. It would different if they were getting better while we got worse, but that isn't happening. If it were then we would be in even worse trouble than we are at the moment.
    As I said earlier, Wenger's transfer policy is a big factor in this decline. Summer outgoings included the likes of Fabregas Nasri and Clichy. The replacements? Arteta, Benayoun and Santos. Three world class, top drawer players for three significantly less talented players. It should be no surprise, then, that Arsenal are no longer are assured a place in Europe.
    Here it is February and you're saying what all supporters have said since the transfer happened. You're a bit late with your assessment. Try again.

    Just my opinion on what needs changing in the Arsenal camp...
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    Not declining? I believe you are in a state of delusion. Since when do Alex Song, Mikel Arteta and Aaron Ramsey lace the same boots as Patrick Viera, Gilberto Silva and Cesc Fabregas? It is as obvious as day that the talent is declining.

    I am not 'late'. I have been saying this since the transfer window. I am simply reminding you lot how Wenger screwed you all over right from the beginning of the season.

    Also, hiring a manager of football operations was my second idea, one I forgot to state in my previous post. As well, I am not the only one who thinks Wenger should be fired. I am simply tiring of all my Arsenal friends posting Facebook updates like: "Wenger should die" or "WENGER OUT!" after losses to Swansea, Milan, etc.

    Wenger's problem is not only what he does, but what he doesn't do. Case in point with Scott Parker. "Scott Parker was so obviously needed at Arsenal that he may as well have been gift-wrapped with a one-way ticket to Holloway Road tube station, yet for a cool £5 million he is currently being hailed as the next England captain whilst in the white of Tottenham." (A quote from football critic Ben Blackmore)

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    Post by The_Quilo Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:47 pm

    Theo Filippo wrote:Arise destroyed Quilo Laughing

    I don't consider Gibbs a starter at all. Would rather Santos not that I'm happy he is our starting left back Laughing

    Quite the intelligent post there...

    I seem to remember you not even replying to my first post.
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    Post by AriseForLife Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:51 pm

    You can't really compare a team made up of Ramsey, Song, Arteta to Vieira, Fabreags (whom was the reason Pat was sold), and Gilberto. After the dismantling of that team, Wenger adopted his complete build with youth policy and has basically steered away from experience. It would be different if he bought experience players and mixed them with youth and our results were shit. He isn't doing that, he is going young and keeping it young and only using experience in players that have been at Arsenal for years (terrible idea in my opinion).

    We still have a very talented team, but the problem is that our rivals, Chelsea, United, and even Tottenham are spending money getting players that are even more talented. So again its not that we are declining, it that we are stagnant and remain the same year after year.

    Adding Scott Parker to our team would have completely changed the way we play. Tottenham don't play like we do so they didn't have to change a thing to integrate him into the team. If he were at Arsenal the flow our our game would be much slower due to have Parker in the middle and you would have to bench Song (something Wenger is not going to do) or Wilshere (something Wenger is not going to do) to play Parker. SP's price was nice, but we needed a lot more than Scott Parker to reinforce our team and Wenger basically failed big time.

    I do not see the board taking power away, and Kroenke is not going to interfere because he is a huge fan of Wenger so unless the board all resign or some freak of nature happens you can look for the next couple of year at the club to be much like they are now.
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    Post by The_Quilo Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:57 pm

    AriseForLife wrote:You can't really compare a team made up of Ramsey, Song, Arteta to Vieira, Fabreags (whom was the reason Pat was sold), and Gilberto. After the dismantling of that team, Wenger adopted his complete build with youth policy and has basically steered away from experience. It would be different if he bought experience players and mixed them with youth and our results were shit. He isn't doing that, he is going young and keeping it young and only using experience in players that have been at Arsenal for years (terrible idea in my opinion).

    We still have a very talented team, but the problem is that our rivals, Chelsea, United, and even Tottenham are spending money getting players that are even more talented. So again its not that we are declining, it that we are stagnant and remain the same year after year.

    Adding Scott Parker to our team would have completely changed the way we play. Tottenham don't play like we do so they didn't have to change a thing to integrate him into the team. If he were at Arsenal the flow our our game would be much slower due to have Parker in the middle and you would have to bench Song (something Wenger is not going to do) or Wilshere (something Wenger is not going to do) to play Parker. SP's price was nice, but we needed a lot more than Scott Parker to reinforce our team and Wenger basically failed big time.

    I do not see the board taking power away, and Kroenke is not going to interfere because he is a huge fan of Wenger so unless the board all resign or some freak of nature happens you can look for the next couple of year at the club to be much like they are now.

    Its so sad, because Arsenal are probably the most entertaining team to watch in the BPL. The fact that they have not won a trophy in 5-6 years is heartbreaking for the attractive style of football they play... Crying or Very sad
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    “You have to remember that you go through moments where it is not always nice.”

    “If you are an Arsenal fan then you are an Arsenal fan, that’s the way it is. Once a Gunner you are always a Gunner, you can’t change.
    I can’t talk for people whose families have supported Arsenal forever. But I am sure if you talk to their parents,
    and their parents too, they will tell you to enjoy this generation because they had some bad moments.

    “I am sure the fans will understand that they have to stay with the team. We all need to be together because it’s the same when the team is winning and also when you lose.” - Thierry Henry




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    Post by Guest Sat Feb 18, 2012 9:53 pm

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11670/7529106/RVP-urged-to-quit-Arsenal

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    Post by Theo Filippo Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:09 pm

    The_Quilo wrote:
    Theo Filippo wrote:Arise destroyed Quilo Laughing

    I don't consider Gibbs a starter at all. Would rather Santos not that I'm happy he is our starting left back Laughing

    Quite the intelligent post there...

    I seem to remember you not even replying to my first post.
    Because everything you have said has been said about 1000 times since the summer?
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    Post by Gegilworld93 Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:31 pm

    Zlatan is so full of himself rofl
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    Post by Kuled Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:41 pm

    It's what makes him a boss.
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    Post by Laurencio Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:42 pm

    AriseForLife wrote:You can't really compare a team made up of Ramsey, Song, Arteta to Vieira, Fabreags (whom was the reason Pat was sold), and Gilberto. After the dismantling of that team, Wenger adopted his complete build with youth policy and has basically steered away from experience. It would be different if he bought experience players and mixed them with youth and our results were shit. He isn't doing that, he is going young and keeping it young and only using experience in players that have been at Arsenal for years (terrible idea in my opinion).

    We still have a very talented team, but the problem is that our rivals, Chelsea, United, and even Tottenham are spending money getting players that are even more talented. So again its not that we are declining, it that we are stagnant and remain the same year after year.

    Adding Scott Parker to our team would have completely changed the way we play. Tottenham don't play like we do so they didn't have to change a thing to integrate him into the team. If he were at Arsenal the flow our our game would be much slower due to have Parker in the middle and you would have to bench Song (something Wenger is not going to do) or Wilshere (something Wenger is not going to do) to play Parker. SP's price was nice, but we needed a lot more than Scott Parker to reinforce our team and Wenger basically failed big time.

    I do not see the board taking power away, and Kroenke is not going to interfere because he is a huge fan of Wenger so unless the board all resign or some freak of nature happens you can look for the next couple of year at the club to be much like they are now.

    His recent buys suggests he is trying to mix experience with youthful talent though. I mean Arshavin, Mikel Sylvester, Sebastien Squillaci, Marouane Chamakh, Per Mertesacker and Mikel Arteta aren't exactly yougsters.
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