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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:25 am

    I'm free to be exploited by a football club for £30k a week if any are interested.

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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:35 am

    Mal wrote:
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    Because then they would have to go 3 years without a tournament, the tradition is to have the Championship every two years. It's a bit selfish of Europeans like you to say Africa shouldn't have their tournament because it doesn't suit the interests of the wealthy European clubs who exploit their players.

    The club's pay the players wages. They have every right to be selfish.
    So what? They don't own the players, they are not slaves. If you've got a few weeks off from your job does your employer or his customers have the right to bitch about you taking them?
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    ResurrectionRooney wrote:

    Because then they would have to go 3 years without a tournament, the tradition is to have the Championship every two years. It's a bit selfish of Europeans like you to say Africa shouldn't have their tournament because it doesn't suit the interests of the wealthy European clubs who exploit their players.

    I don't have a problem with them having their tournament in the middle of the club season, but if they want to reorganise the structure then they should be the ones who pay, not the clubs. And how on earth do European clubs exploit their players? By giving them the opportunity to use their state of the art facilities in order to help them develop into better players? Yeah, definite exploitation.
    By taking them away from their home countries for far less than market value.
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    Post by Mal Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:38 am

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Mal wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:

    Because then they would have to go 3 years without a tournament, the tradition is to have the Championship every two years. It's a bit selfish of Europeans like you to say Africa shouldn't have their tournament because it doesn't suit the interests of the wealthy European clubs who exploit their players.

    The club's pay the players wages. They have every right to be selfish.
    So what? They don't own the players, they are not slaves. If you've got a few weeks off from your job does your employer or his customers have the right to bitch about you taking them?
    BladeGunner wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:

    Because then they would have to go 3 years without a tournament, the tradition is to have the Championship every two years. It's a bit selfish of Europeans like you to say Africa shouldn't have their tournament because it doesn't suit the interests of the wealthy European clubs who exploit their players.

    I don't have a problem with them having their tournament in the middle of the club season, but if they want to reorganise the structure then they should be the ones who pay, not the clubs. And how on earth do European clubs exploit their players? By giving them the opportunity to use their state of the art facilities in order to help them develop into better players? Yeah, definite exploitation.
    By taking them away from their home countries for far less than market value.

    I sometimes think you don't understand football. The player has a contract, the ACON does not count as a holiday. The club agrees with the national team that they will let them go. And yes they actually do own the players.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:43 am

    Mal wrote:
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    So what? They don't own the players, they are not slaves. If you've got a few weeks off from your job does your employer or his customers have the right to bitch about you taking them?
    By taking them away from their home countries for far less than market value.

    I sometimes think you don't understand football. The player has a contract, the ACON does not count as a holiday. The club agrees with the national team that they will let them go. And yes they actually do own the players.

    Well get that thought out of your silly head right now. The player has a contract in which it is is stipulated that he may leave his club to play international football on dates set out by FIFA. The club agrees fuck all with the national team, unless the national team and player are courteous to agree to the player staying a few extra days. They don't own the players, they own their registrations, massive massive difference.
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    Post by Mal Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:45 am

    If Rooney wanted to leave Manchester United right now to sign for Real Madrid, could he without the permission of Manchester United? Just registration or whatever, they own him.
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    Post by Carlos Jenkinson Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:49 am

    Fonseca can see 2 pages worth of Arsenal news
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:50 am


    Love
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    Post by Mal Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:53 am

    Fonseca wrote:Fonseca can see 2 pages worth of Arsenal news
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:56 am

    I still wouldn't say they're exploited. If they remain in Africa for the entire duration of their career then it's highly unlikely that they'll become any good and of much worth. They only become worth gargantuan amounts if they go to a European club where they are disciplined and trained properly. Not to mention that when players like Drogba become global superstars in Europe and return to their home nations, they probably provide the country with more income than a fairer transfer would have provided.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Tue Feb 07, 2012 6:56 am

    Mal wrote:If Rooney wanted to leave Manchester United right now to sign for Real Madrid, could he without the permission of Manchester United? Just registration or whatever, they own him.

    There's a world of difference between owning him and having a contractual agreement with him that prevents him from being employed by another company.
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    Post by Grenade Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:20 am

    Hoping for an IF Rvp IF Walcott and IF lw Chamberlain on UT soon Official Arsenal FC Thread - Page 20 13664
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:26 am

    Benitez in LFC thread..

    Benitez wrote:So we have Arsenal after United, should beat them comfortably, it's a shame we have to wait a while to play Chelsea at home Neutral

    Lets hope we have a strong first 11 for this game, they attack like donkeys.
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:30 am

    What a delusional fuck.

    Did he forget they won with a shit ton of luck thanks to Frimpong getting red.. Jenkinson being shit, Koscielny injured early in the 1st half and taken off, and Arshavin playing which = shit.

    Then the goals.. were just.. garbage flukes.

    If anything.. their squad has gotten worse since that match.. while ours has improved.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:35 am

    Well done, you gave him the attention he wants.
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:40 am

    It's what keep this forum going.
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    Post by Theo Filippo Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:41 am

    Leo keeps this forum going? Rage

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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:42 am

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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:52 am

    Theo Filippo wrote:Well done, you gave him the attention he wants.
    I get enough myself, gotta spread it around.

    Who is this leo?
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    Post by Theo Filippo Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:54 am

    Chris wrote:
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    I get enough myself, gotta spread it around.

    Who is this leo?
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:10 am

    Arsenal need to sell arshavin, he is a great player at the wrong club playing the wrong role imo, arsenal should focus him less on his dribbling ability, and more on his brilliant technical ability, he used to be such a great player, i saw a couple of games of him in the russian league, his passing was supreme. not worthy
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    Post by Theo Filippo Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:13 am

    I thought dribbling would of come under technical ability Official Arsenal FC Thread - Page 20 3925848005

    Its more like its the wrong player at a great club, how can a player be so (allegedly) great in the middle but so so poor out wide? I'm not sure how the position he plays in stops him from controlling a ball properly.
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 11:56 am

    it is clear also that he's a confidence player, and hes not gonna get any confidence any time soon by the looks of things. Shame really, he shows sometimes what a great player he could be. I will never forget that liverpool match where he scored 4. not worthy

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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:00 pm

    AC Milan next week, prepare your anus lads. eek3
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:08 pm

    I have no fear.
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    Post by Paulinho Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:19 pm

    No fear at all. Ibra's nose is inferior to Koscielny's nose, we will therefore win
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:21 pm

    I'm not sure about the game, I don't feel confident at all.

    Will be good to see Rvp ripping Thiago Silva a new anus though. Smile
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:21 pm

    I feel bad for Chelsea to be honest.
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:38 pm

    I dont feel confident at all but if Koscielny is in top form and we play Arteta and Song in midfield I don't think we'll get smashed.
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    Post by Guest Tue Feb 07, 2012 12:51 pm

    AC Milan have been looking fairly ordinary in recent weeks, from what I have seen. think
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    Post by Phadunkin Donuts Tue Feb 07, 2012 1:00 pm

    To be honest, we have nothing to lose and everything to gain at this point. Especially with Manchester City and United out of the CL.

    As long as we don't play like scared children.. and act like the Arsenal that use to strike fear into the opposition, mmmmmm.. gon b good.

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