Suarez: written reasons

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/Disciplinary/NewsAndFeatures/2011/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Disciplinary/Written%20reasons/FA%20v%20Suarez%20Written%20Reasons%20of%20Regulatory%20Commission.ashx

There you go.

End well this will not

Mr Keanoo please direct me to the evidence.

Dan wrote:Mr Keanoo please direct me to the evidence.

Click the link then go to page 2, thats were it starts.

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Keanoo wrote:

Dan wrote:Mr Keanoo please direct me to the evidence.

Click the link then go to page 2, thats were it starts.

No. You mis-understand me. I said evidence. There is no evidence to prove any of this.

The PDF contains the word cunt.

Reading the report currently

Dan wrote:

Keanoo wrote:

Click the link then go to page 2, thats were it starts.

No. You mis-understand me. I said evidence. There is no evidence to prove any of this.

The evidence is what Evra and Suarez told them. You know that full well. If you think that's not sufficient evidence then say so, instead of beating around the bush.

Dan wrote:

Keanoo wrote:

Click the link then go to page 2, thats were it starts.

No. You mis-understand me. I said evidence. There is no evidence to prove any of this.

Have you read the document? There clearly is, including Dalglish and Suarez's own comments.

Sarmz wrote:

Dan wrote:

No. You mis-understand me. I said evidence. There is no evidence to prove any of this.

The evidence is what Evra and Suarez told them. You know that full well. If you think that's not sufficient evidence then say so, instead of beating around the bush.

Ah, so it is one man's word against another.

Have either of these men got any evidence to back up the claims they are making?

When the referee blew his whistle to stop play, Mr Evra spoke to Mr
Suarez and said (in English) "Don't touch me, South American". Mr Suarez replied "Por
que, negro?". He says that he used the word “negro” in a way with which he was familiar
from his upbringing in Uruguay. In this sense, Mr Suarez claimed, it is used as a noun and
as a friendly form of address to people seen as black or brown-skinned (or even just blackhaired).

That's what Suarez says he said. Is that what you want evidence of?

Dan wrote:

Sarmz wrote:

The evidence is what Evra and Suarez told them. You know that full well. If you think that's not sufficient evidence then say so, instead of beating around the bush.

Ah, so it is one man's word against another.

Have either of these men got any evidence to back up the claims they are making?

Unless they were carrying a recording device with them at the time of the incident, then no, there is nothing to back up the claims. All the FA have to go on are what Suarez and Evra told them.

Sarmz wrote:

Dan wrote:

Ah, so it is one man's word against another.

Have either of these men got any evidence to back up the claims they are making?

Unless they were carrying a recording device with them at the time of the incident, then no, there is nothing to back up the claims. All the FA have to go on are what Suarez and Evra told them.

So it is one man's word against another.

Thank you, that's all I wanted.

356. Mr Suarez's pinching of Mr Evra's skin was not an attempt to defuse the situation. On the
contrary, it was an attempt to aggravate Mr Evra and to inflame the situation. Mr Suarez's
admitted use of the word "negro" when speaking to Mr Evra was not conciliatory and
friendly. It was unfriendly and was used as part of Mr Suarez's attempt to wind up Mr
Evra. The whole tenor of the exchanges was confrontational and argumentative. Adopting
the words used by the Spanish language experts, Mr Suarez did not use "negro" with any
sense of rapport or in an attempt to create such rapport.

357. Not only did we reject this evidence of Mr Suarez, but we found it remarkable that he
sought to advance a case that was so clearly inconsistent with any sensible appreciation of
what happened. Even Mr McCormick accepted in his closing submissions that the
pinching could not reasonably be described as an attempt to defuse the situation. To
suggest otherwise, as Mr Suarez did, was unarguable. Mr Suarez's evidence on these
topics, which was shown to be flawed, profoundly undermined our confidence in the
reliability of his evidence

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And eyewitness accounts are applicable as evidence, shitheads.

Suarez admitted calling Evra negro, and Evra said that, among other things, is what he heard. There's no need for any more factual evidence, the only real point of contention is the intent behind that phrase, which is why the Independent Commission used experts to ascertain what he meant by it.

Unless you Liverpool fans are more knowledgeable than the experts on Montevideoan Spanish then I don't know how you can still support this cunt.

Howcome Evra did not get banned for threatening to bunch an opponent?

I hate the use of 'Mr' in front of all their names for some reason

Cam wrote:I hate the use of 'Mr' in front of all their names for some reason

Me too.

Cam wrote:I hate the use of 'Mr' in front of all their names for some reason

I was thinking that

Did anyone else laugh when it said "Don't touch me, South American."

Reading it too, quite interesting and funny how they go into details, this is my favourite so far

Mr Evra said that he told the referee that Mr Suarez had called him a ice cream. According to
Mr Evra, the referee said to him "Oh, that is why you were talking about being called
black", referring back to what Mr Evra had said to the referee on the pitch. Mr Evra said
"Yes."

Gegilworld93 wrote:Reading it too, quite interesting and funny how they go into details, this is my favourite so far

Mr Evra said that he told the referee that Mr Suarez had called him a ice cream. According to
Mr Evra, the referee said to him "Oh, that is why you were talking about being called
black", referring back to what Mr Evra had said to the referee on the pitch. Mr Evra said
"Yes."

or

Mr Evra then said that he was going to kick Mr Suarez, to which Mr Suarez told him to
shut up

Mason_Inzaghi wrote:Howcome Evra did not get banned for threatening to bunch an opponent?

Is that incorporating him into some type of flower arrangement?

Whenever I read things like these, I always read it in my head in the most monotone voice possible. I don't do it on purpose for some reason it just happens.

Don't touch me, South American.

InGlennyWeTrust wrote:

InGlennyWeTrust wrote:

You're tearing me apart Lisa!