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    Suarez banned for eight games.

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    Post by Laurencio Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:14 am

    Sammys_Tekkers wrote:The FA has confirmed that Luis Suarez's eight-match ban could be extended if he appeals against the suspension

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7390728/Suarez-ban-could-be-extended

    Trying to force Liverpool to drop the matter then... That's just wrong.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:17 am

    Isn't it the same for red cards and that? If you appeal and lose you get it extended?
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    Post by GK01 Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:20 am

    Point wrote:Isn't it the same for red cards and that? If you appeal and lose you get it extended?

    It normally is, yes.
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    Post by Van Wolfswinkel Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:20 am

    Not sure tbh, the last 2 bans we've appealed and lost have stayed at 3 games, but have heard they can be extended.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:21 am

    GK01 wrote:
    Point wrote:Isn't it the same for red cards and that? If you appeal and lose you get it extended?

    It normally is, yes.

    Don't see the problem then. Just following their own rules shifty
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    Post by Laurencio Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:22 am

    Point wrote:Isn't it the same for red cards and that? If you appeal and lose you get it extended?

    To deter clubs from appealing every red card to delay a ban, even if they know it's pointless. Not sure that can be applied to this case think
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:39 am

    Uruguay unites behind Luis Suárez after 'excessive, absurd' ban

    • Football federation offers legal backing through embassy
    • 'This leaves bad feeling' says national director of sport
    Sid Lowe
    guardian.co.uk, Wednesday 21 December 2011 17.58 GMT

    Luis Suárez played a major role in Uruguay's capture of the Copa América in July and the national football association stated 'its total solidarity and support' for their striker.

    "Exaggerated, absurd and out of place." That was the verdict of Uruguay's national director of sport as Luis Suárez's eight-game ban became a matter of state. Players, coaches, media and the government have come out in support of the Liverpool striker, while the national football federation has offered legal backing through the Uruguayan embassy in London. The striker Sebastián Abreu insisted that Suárez has "3 million Uruguayans behind him" and the former international Richard Morales, who is black, insisted: "[Patrice] Evra should not play at being Padre Popelka." Father Ernesto Popelka is a revered former footballer, priest and psychologist.

    "This [ban] leaves a bad feeling," said Ernesto Irureta, the national director of sport. "What is happening in Europe is a product of their [wider] problems, not of what happens between players – and one of those is racism. That reflects a lack of values in society. We have a country with [racial] differences but it is a long way from those in the Old Continent [Europe]. Suárez may act with words or gestures in certain moments but this ban is exaggerated, absurd and out of place."

    Celso Otero, assistant to the Uruguay coach, Oscar Tabárez, described the ban as "excessive" and sought to reassure Suárez that his position with the national team "has not changed in the slightest". The captain, Diego Lugano, said: "I cannot believe it: this is a huge error that is being made. Obviously in England there is a problem with racism and they are trying to eradicate it, which is good, but this [ban] has no solid base. Luis is a victim." The national football association reiterated its "total solidarity and support" for Suárez.

    A failure to allow for different cultural interpretations was at the heart of much of the criticism in a country where one newspaper ran with a huge front-page headline that simply said: "Irrational". Uruguayans do not see the use of "negro" or "negrito" to be offensive at all and Marcelo Tejera, who played for Southampton, bemoaned "a campaign to push [Suárez] out to another league".

    "They [Uruguay and England] are different cultures. For us [what was said] is normal and it doesn't affect you," said Morales. "They're making a drama out of something that for us is entirely natural. But England is totally different. The only thing [Suárez] could have got wrong is not knowing that. And in any case, you have to be sure whether or not [Suárez] actually said it. Evra shouldn't play at being Father Popelka, because he's nothing like him."

    Gustavo Poyet called the ban a "fiasco". Poyet drew parallels between this case and the incident at Stamford Bridge when Evra made accusations of racism against a Chelsea steward. "This is very worrying," he said. "It could happen to me or to anyone tomorrow. I could find myself in a defenceless position based on what just one person claims I have said. [After the Stamford Bridge incident] nothing was proven and no one believed [Evra]. I imagine he's happy now."

    © 2011 Guardian News and Media Limited or its affiliated companies. All rights reserved.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/dec/21/uruguay-luis-suarez-racism?cat=football&type=article
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    Post by Danny Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:42 am

    Laurencio wrote:
    Sammys_Tekkers wrote:The FA has confirmed that Luis Suarez's eight-match ban could be extended if he appeals against the suspension

    http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7390728/Suarez-ban-could-be-extended

    Trying to force Liverpool to drop the matter then... That's just wrong.
    Not really, if they show evidence of Suarez saying something to Evra, and Liverpool still appeal, they could see it as frivolous and extend it. shifty

    They extended Rio's ban from 4 games to 5 for elbowing that Hull player after we appealed.
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    Post by Laurencio Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:54 am

    Danny wrote:
    Laurencio wrote:

    Trying to force Liverpool to drop the matter then... That's just wrong.
    Not really, if they show evidence of Suarez saying something to Evra, and Liverpool still appeal, they could see it as frivolous and extend it. shifty

    They extended Rio's ban from 4 games to 5 for elbowing that Hull player after we appealed.

    I guess, but it does seem strange to me non the less.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:58 am

    liverpool FC has shown themselves to be disgusting unmoral disgrace of a club.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:59 am

    Sammys_Tekkers wrote:Not sure tbh, the last 2 bans we've appealed and lost have stayed at 3 games, but have heard they can be extended.

    depends on if there was justification for appeal

    if it was something obvious and you still appeal then it is seen as wasting peoples time so it gets extended
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    Post by Danny Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:30 am

    Laurencio wrote:
    Danny wrote:Not really, if they show evidence of Suarez saying something to Evra, and Liverpool still appeal, they could see it as frivolous and extend it. shifty

    They extended Rio's ban from 4 games to 5 for elbowing that Hull player after we appealed.

    I guess, but it does seem strange to me non the less.
    Na, our appeal was just to ensure Rio could face Everton in the Cup semi final I think. If they think they're appealing to get something similar, then they'll probably extend it.
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    Post by ShakerMatty Thu Dec 22, 2011 9:13 am

    Oh my god this thread is gold. rofl
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    Post by Cabaye Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:02 am

    As we all mostly would, I am for this decision to get Luis banned. I do however not agree with the length of the ban. I mean players are off 3 matches for violent play, but Luis gets 8 for hurting Patrice Evra's feelings? We have seen Evra and his baby antics, it's a shame. This can all be overreacted from Evra's POV.

    Luis should be well aware that he isn't in South America, and some things just won't settle over in Europe, some people will take the phrase "negrito" and see it differently. I mean, I am a South American and my boss is referred to as "Negro Jimenez" ffs Smile Would I go out saying "negro" to someone of a different culture, no.

    The public can't get a look into the "legit" evidence which banned him from the PL for 8 games. Surely, it should be released if it's worth 8 games. Everyone would question the FA's decision for the 8 game ban, if there's no real evidence that proves the ban is worth that..

    John Terry should receive equal or more severe punishment for his actions against Anton Ferdinand. He full out called him a "black c*nt" and the public are able to witness the incident.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:46 am

    ViVaRooney wrote:liverpool FC has shown themselves to be disgusting unmoral disgrace of a club.

    For once I am in agreement with you.
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    Post by Sean Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:47 am

    That T shirt thing was atrocious, basically saying, fuck the FA, we're Liverpool, we can do whatever we want. Imagine if United had done that, Liverpool fans would have a fit.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:20 am

    Allright then Sean.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:21 pm

    Reading that statement im surprised the way they have conducted themselves
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    Post by Dr. Ján Ĩtor Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:12 pm

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    racist cunt
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 22, 2011 3:29 pm

    That is just poor.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:02 pm

    Really?

    Both groups would kill Suarez given the chance, and you are associating him with them? Neutral
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    Post by Steadman Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:12 pm


    Suarez's cousin.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 22, 2011 5:18 pm

    facepalm
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    Post by Scouser_Dave Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:58 pm

    Sean wrote:That T shirt thing was atrocious, basically saying, fuck the FA, we're Liverpool, we can do whatever we want. Imagine if United had done that, Liverpool fans would have a fit.

    No it shows the unity of the team that are behind Suarez. It's got fuck all to do with pissing the FA off. Plus there's no laws within English Football that state we are breaking any rules. Clearly you and alot of people on here are looking to much into this.
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    Post by Kuled Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:25 pm

    Steadman wrote:
    Suarez's cousin.
    Prick.
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    Post by ResurrectionRooney Thu Dec 22, 2011 10:49 pm

    Scouser_Dave wrote:
    Sean wrote:That T shirt thing was atrocious, basically saying, fuck the FA, we're Liverpool, we can do whatever we want. Imagine if United had done that, Liverpool fans would have a fit.

    No it shows the unity of the team that are behind Suarez. It's got fuck all to do with pissing the FA off. Plus there's no laws within English Football that state we are breaking any rules. Clearly you and alot of people on here are looking to much into this.

    What I don't understand is why a club who is united against racism would unite behind a guy who is proven to have directed racial abuse at a black player. Further, I don't understand why Liverpool's fans and players would united behind a guy whose behaviour on the pitch makes Cristiano Ronaldo, who you vilified and hated, look like Mother Theresa. Finally, I don't understand why you would boycott The Sun for printing things that might not be true, but continue to support Liverpool FC despite them printing lies about a man to smear his reputation.

    Can you justify these things to me? Or is it just because Suarez is a good player? I certainly don't remember this unity when your reserve goalkeeper was caught smiling at an inappropriate moment.
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    Post by Guest Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:20 pm

    ResurrectionRooney wrote:
    Scouser_Dave wrote:

    No it shows the unity of the team that are behind Suarez. It's got fuck all to do with pissing the FA off. Plus there's no laws within English Football that state we are breaking any rules. Clearly you and alot of people on here are looking to much into this.

    What I don't understand is why a club who is united against racism would unite behind a guy who is proven to have directed racial abuse at a black player. Further, I don't understand why Liverpool's fans and players would united behind a guy whose behaviour on the pitch makes Cristiano Ronaldo, who you vilified and hated, look like Mother Theresa. Finally, I don't understand why you would boycott The Sun for printing things that might not be true, but continue to support Liverpool FC despite them printing lies about a man to smear his reputation.

    Can you justify these things to me? Or is it just because Suarez is a good player? I certainly don't remember this unity when your reserve goalkeeper was caught smiling at an inappropriate moment.
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    Post by Mason Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:20 pm

    Alan wrote:
    ResurrectionRooney wrote:

    What I don't understand is why a club who is united against racism would unite behind a guy who is proven to have directed racial abuse at a black player. Further, I don't understand why Liverpool's fans and players would united behind a guy whose behaviour on the pitch makes Cristiano Ronaldo, who you vilified and hated, look like Mother Theresa. Finally, I don't understand why you would boycott The Sun for printing things that might not be true, but continue to support Liverpool FC despite them printing lies about a man to smear his reputation.

    Can you justify these things to me? Or is it just because Suarez is a good player? I certainly don't remember this unity when your reserve goalkeeper was caught smiling at an inappropriate moment.
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    Post by Steadman Thu Dec 22, 2011 11:25 pm

    Kuled wrote:
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    Suarez's cousin.
    Prick.
    Agreed.

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