Fabregas: We play football, other teams play rugby

"Here they play in front of their fans, they are more motivated, the pitch is not as good as Stamford Bridge, so they play their game.

"They know how to do it and did it very well, so credit to them.

"Now we will see how they cope at the Emirates against us.

Malorie wrote:Fabregas didn't even criticise them.

"Here they play in front of their fans, they are more motivated, the pitch is not as good as Stamford Bridge, so they play their game.

"They know how to do it and did it very well, so credit to them.

"Now we will see how they cope at the Emirates against us.

James wrote:What he says is right but maybe he shouldn't say it. Teams should try and play football rather than avoid playing it and just hoofing it up and trying to get goals from set pieces.

People say "oh we play to our strengths" Look at Blackpool, Bolton, Wigan. All meant to be relegation contenders yet 2 of them 3 are doing way better than anyone expected. Maybe if teams bought players to play football rather than buying machines to play all over the pitch then you wouldn't get slagged off.

I'm not gonna bitch about how teams play though, it is up to them but they shouldn't complain if others decide to complain.

JMB_94 wrote:

James wrote:What he says is right but maybe he shouldn't say it. Teams should try and play football rather than avoid playing it and just hoofing it up and trying to get goals from set pieces.

People say "oh we play to our strengths" Look at Blackpool, Bolton, Wigan. All meant to be relegation contenders yet 2 of them 3 are doing way better than anyone expected. Maybe if teams bought players to play football rather than buying machines to play all over the pitch then you wouldn't get slagged off.

I'm not gonna bitch about how teams play though, it is up to them but they shouldn't complain if others decide to complain.

James, i see what you're trying to say. I don't like it when teams like Blackburn do it because they have the quality to play good football, Ipswich wouldn't stand a chance if they tried to outplay Arsenal with attractive football, we aren't good enough to do that.

James ♠ wrote:Infact now I think about it, look at the Championship.

Yes it is currently been led by a hoof ball team but look directly below QPR.

Cardiff, Norwich, Swansea, Leeds and Watford. All 5 teams are attacking footballing teams. so 5 of the top 6 play football how it is supposed to be.

James wrote:Infact now I think about it, look at the Championship.

Yes it is currently been led by a hoof ball team but look directly below QPR.

Cardiff, Norwich, Swansea, Leeds and Watford. All 5 teams are attacking footballing teams. so 5 of the top 6 play football how it is supposed to be.


Then outside the playoffs there is Forest in 7th, Burnley in 10th, Leicester in 12th, Derby in 13th, Doncaster in 14th and Hull in 15th who all play nice stuff and all who will be nowhere near relegation at the end of the season.

Its funny how all the long ball teams don't do as well, all in the bottom 8 fighting releation. Maybe teams should learn to play football because it will actually benefit them.

James wrote:

JMB_94 wrote:

James wrote:What he says is right but maybe he shouldn't say it. Teams should try and play football rather than avoid playing it and just hoofing it up and trying to get goals from set pieces.

People say "oh we play to our strengths" Look at Blackpool, Bolton, Wigan. All meant to be relegation contenders yet 2 of them 3 are doing way better than anyone expected. Maybe if teams bought players to play football rather than buying machines to play all over the pitch then you wouldn't get slagged off.

I'm not gonna bitch about how teams play though, it is up to them but they shouldn't complain if others decide to complain.

James, i see what you're trying to say. I don't like it when teams like Blackburn do it because they have the quality to play good football, Ipswich wouldn't stand a chance if they tried to outplay Arsenal with attractive football, we aren't good enough to do that.

But it isn't just Arsenal, you did it when you came to the KC and at the time you was above us in the league. You stuck 10 men behind the ball and hoofed it up the lone frontman and still didn't get any support up to him till we finally scored.

Luxz0rz wrote:

James wrote:Infact now I think about it, look at the Championship.

Yes it is currently been led by a hoof ball team but look directly below QPR.

Cardiff, Norwich, Swansea, Leeds and Watford. All 5 teams are attacking footballing teams. so 5 of the top 6 play football how it is supposed to be.

To be fair Swansea were passing it around defence and making our come out to them before we fell asleep and then they whacked it up to fast black forwards on the counter attack. Decent tactic and requires good passing but don't like it.

JMB_94 wrote:Playing hoof ball tactic is very effective against teams like Arsenal, as we all saw last night. I admit, we should play more attractive against teams at the same level as us, hopefully Paul Jewell will sort that out.

Luxz0rz wrote:

Malorie wrote:Fabregas didn't even criticise them.

"Here they play in front of their fans, they are more motivated, the pitch is not as good as Stamford Bridge, so they play their game.

"They know how to do it and did it very well, so credit to them.

"Now we will see how they cope at the Emirates against us.

That's not all he said.

Cameron_LFC wrote:I hope Ipswich go through now just to shut that stupid cunt up.

19Jones19v wrote:

luke. wrote:

19Jones19v wrote:Either way, Ipswich are still going out. Great achievement for them to reach the semi's though, but they're run ends at the Emirates

I thought you would have learned not to write teams off before you have played them.. remember that easy win at Wigan you spoke of?

How did I know a cunt like you would quote me out of everyone else . I could say the same for you when you was saying you'd bounce back and beat Villa at your home after we dominated you at the Emirates.

James ♠ wrote:Whats even funnier is the teams that play longball wrong. The way its meant to work is playing it over the top then have their defender kick it out of play after he is put under pressure. They you are in a good position with the throw in to start playing football at the top end of the pitch.

Most teams don't do this though and they just put a big person up front to win headers when really they should have good passers as full backs, give it to them and let them pass it into the space behind the other full back and have 3 up top (1 striker with 2 fast wingers) who close the opposition player chasing back.

Basically, most longball teams play bad rugby whereas if they played as I described they would be playing big rugby.

luke. wrote:

James wrote:Whats even funnier is the teams that play longball wrong. The way its meant to work is playing it over the top then have their defender kick it out of play after he is put under pressure. They you are in a good position with the throw in to start playing football at the top end of the pitch.

Most teams don't do this though and they just put a big person up front to win headers when really they should have good passers as full backs, give it to them and let them pass it into the space behind the other full back and have 3 up top (1 striker with 2 fast wingers) who close the opposition player chasing back.

Basically, most longball teams play bad rugby whereas if they played as I described they would be playing big rugby.

Longball > Target man > Bring it down/flick it on = chance on goal. They don't do it just to win throw ins.

James wrote:

luke. wrote:

James wrote:Whats even funnier is the teams that play longball wrong. The way its meant to work is playing it over the top then have their defender kick it out of play after he is put under pressure. They you are in a good position with the throw in to start playing football at the top end of the pitch.

Most teams don't do this though and they just put a big person up front to win headers when really they should have good passers as full backs, give it to them and let them pass it into the space behind the other full back and have 3 up top (1 striker with 2 fast wingers) who close the opposition player chasing back.

Basically, most longball teams play bad rugby whereas if they played as I described they would be playing big rugby.

Longball > Target man > Bring it down/flick it on = chance on goal. They don't do it just to win throw ins.

My way would be better though as you can do it from a defensive position. Playing alongball to a target man from a defensive position doesn't do much because;

1. they will be too far away from goal to cause any real problems to the defence if they do manage to knock it down
2. most teams have defenders who can win headers anyway. How many top class target men is there? Compare that to the top class centre backs who are great in the air.


With my technique you'd basically play

--------GK
DR-CB-CB-LB
------CDM
---CM---CM
RW--ST--LW

The goalkeeper would just give it to the full backs. The CB would also just give it to the full backs althought it would possibly be good with a centre back who can also punt it into space well.
The defensive mid would break up play like any other and support attacks. The too CMs would need to be creative in the final 3rd.
Front line just needs to be fast at closing down.

Cameron_LFC wrote:@Jones, What are you on about Pipe down

Defiant Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas maintains the Gunners must deal with whatever "rugby" tactics other teams throw at them - and warned Ipswich they will be handed a real football lesson in the second leg of their Carling Cup semi-final at Emirates Stadium.

"I don't know it if it is long ball or it is a rugby kick, but it worked for them," Fabregas said.

"In England, a lot of teams play like that and it works for them, they create chances like that and it is their football.

"We just have to put the ball on the floor and try to play football, that is what we do.

"I can only remember two opportunities for them, but it was from a long, long ball because playing football they could not really get behind us or attack us.

"It is a bit disappointing because I think we were the much better team.

"Credit to them because they played well, but Arsenal made the football, the other team refused to play football, they were lucky to score with a long ball.

"But it was one of those nights and now we have to make it at the Emirates in two weeks."

Fabregas added: "It is a 1-0, and of course we did not want to lose, but it is not a 3-0 or 4-0 so we are confident at home we can make it back.

"It is not the same to play at Stamford Bridge as it is to come here.

"Here they play in front of their fans, they are more motivated, the pitch is not as good as Stamford Bridge, so they play their game.

"They know how to do it and did it very well, so credit to them.

"Now we will see how they cope at the Emirates against us.

"We are confident we can do it there."

James wrote:Infact now I think about it, look at the Championship.

Yes it is currently been led by a hoof ball team but look directly below QPR.

Cardiff, Norwich, Swansea, Leeds and Watford. All 5 teams are attacking footballing teams. so 5 of the top 6 play football how it is supposed to be.


Then outside the playoffs there is Forest in 7th, Burnley in 10th, Leicester in 12th, Derby in 13th, Doncaster in 14th and Hull in 15th who all play nice stuff and all who will be nowhere near relegation at the end of the season.

Its funny how all the long ball teams don't do as well, all in the bottom 8 fighting releation. Maybe teams should learn to play football because it will actually benefit them.