Official Arsenal FC Thread

Van Basten: "In every way I consider Arsenal as the ­ultimate football club. It is the club where Robin belongs."

RVP = next Van Basten. Come at me Andy Caroll

Norwich (A)- Draw
Fulham (H)- Win
Wigan (A) - Win
Everton (H) - Win
Man City (A) - Lose

Kuled wrote:Norwich (A)- Win
Fulham (H)- Win
Wigan (A) - Win
Everton (H) - Win
Man City (A) - Lose

Fixed.

kyro7 wrote:

Kuled wrote:Norwich (A)- Win
Fulham (H)- Win
Wigan (A) - Win
Everton (H) - Win
Man City (A) - Lose

Fixed.

I would be happy with that, We aint going to win the league this year but we can battle for 4th/3rd.

9 straight league wins? Il be happy with that.

Arsene Wenger & Robin Van Persie.


Sack Wenger.

Kyro, Wenger's not exactly doing well.

Steadman wrote:Kyro, Wenger's not exactly doing well.

My friend, he lost Fabregas and Nasri and you're in superb form, shut up you moaning cunt.

Well we're still going backwards as a club, why should the recent good form overshadow that?

Steadman wrote:Well we're still going backwards as a club, why should the recent good form overshadow that?

You will finish top four like every season probably.

We're still slowly declining. A few years ago 4th was the absolute minimum for us. Now its the highest we can aim for

kyro7 wrote:

Steadman wrote:Well we're still going backwards as a club, why should the recent good form overshadow that?

You will finish top four like every season probably.

You proved my point by adding 'probably'.

Steadman wrote:

kyro7 wrote:You will finish top four like every season probably.

You proved my point by adding 'probably'.

No I didn't.. what I mean by that is.. wait till the end of the season.

But you doubted our chances, previous seasons a top 4 was guaranteed. You cannot deny we're going in the wrong direction.

I don't think we're declining, I think we're stagnating. People saying that only now has the ambition become a top four position are talking out of their arse. Does no one remember the 2008/09 season when Villa were fourth for the majority of the season? Or what about Lasagna-gate? We've certainly been fluctuating but to say that we're on a gradual decline is a load of bollocks. This will be a season of transition but I still think we'll finish fourth. Hopefully, next year if we manage to keep the main pillars of the team, we can mount a title challenge.

Steadman wrote:But you doubted our chances, previous seasons a top 4 was guaranteed. You cannot deny we're going in the wrong direction.

Oh obviously.. but Wenger has done alright imo considering Fab and Nasri have left, needs to dig a bit deeper in January though.

That bullshit is said every season, face it, unless Wenger suddenly changes as a person overnight we will never catch the leaders.

Steadman wrote:That bullshit is said every season, face it, unless Wenger suddenly changes as a person overnight we will never catch the leaders.

No one will catch City no matter what Wenger does.

Steadman wrote:That bullshit is said every season, face it, unless Wenger suddenly changes as a person overnight we will never catch the leaders.

That's why I said we're stagnating and not moving on and up. Maybe a managerial change could be useful although, I think that our fuck ups last year had nothing to do with the manager and more with the fragility of the players.

kyro7 wrote:

Steadman wrote:But you doubted our chances, previous seasons a top 4 was guaranteed. You cannot deny we're going in the wrong direction.

Oh obviously.. but Wenger has done alright imo considering Fab and Nasri have left, needs to dig a bit deeper in January though.

He's done ok considering the squad we have, as I just said though, he's not the sort of manager to get us back on top though.

kyro7 wrote:

Steadman wrote:That bullshit is said every season, face it, unless Wenger suddenly changes as a person overnight we will never catch the leaders.

No one will catch City no matter what Wenger does.

Yeah, just like how no one caught Chelsea...

BladeGunner14 wrote:

kyro7 wrote:No one will catch City no matter what Wenger does.

Yeah, just like how no one caught Chelsea...

Why are you involving Chelsea?

BladeGunner14 wrote:

Steadman wrote:That bullshit is said every season, face it, unless Wenger suddenly changes as a person overnight we will never catch the leaders.

That's why I said we're stagnating and not moving on and up. Maybe a managerial change could be useful although, I think that our fuck ups last year had nothing to do with the manager and more with the fragility of the players.

I'd say the quality of the team is getting worse every year, we may finish fourth but the lack of quality is noticeable.

I just can't see how Arsene can get us back as challengers if he sticks with the same mentality.

grenade187 wrote:Don't expect much more from Gervinho.

Well I have followed him a long time so I know better than to be ignorant and not expect more from him. People said the same thing about Henry and look how that turned out.

kyro7 wrote:

BladeGunner14 wrote:

Yeah, just like how no one caught Chelsea...

Why are you involving Chelsea?

Because they were in an almost identical situation in 2004/05. Highest points total in the league and cheated out of the semi-finals of the Champions League. They could only improve from that point with their abundance in cash. Look how that turned out...

Steadman wrote:I'd say the quality of the team is getting worse every year, we may finish fourth but the lack of quality is noticeable.

I just can't see how Arsene can get us back as challengers if he sticks with the same mentality.

Because our ignorant supporters and board will always allow him complete autonomy when it comes to the team. Some many criticize him but once we win some games and place in the top four the negative comments die down a lot. The quality of our team is complete shit bar some good individual talent here and there, Van Persie, Wilshere, Gervinho, Sagna.

BladeGunner14 wrote:

kyro7 wrote:Why are you involving Chelsea?

Because they were in an almost identical situation in 2004/05. Highest points total in the league and cheated out of the semi-finals of the Champions League. They could only improve from that point with their abundance in cash. Look how that turned out...

Mi amigo.. City will last longer than Chelsea.

kyro7 wrote:

Steadman wrote:That bullshit is said every season, face it, unless Wenger suddenly changes as a person overnight we will never catch the leaders.

No one will catch City no matter what Wenger does.

They can be caught, they aren't invincible. We should be making steps forward but instead we are in a position of key players leaving and our manager seems content with buying inadequate replacements.

BladeGunner14 wrote:

kyro7 wrote:Why are you involving Chelsea?

Because they were in an almost identical situation in 2004/05. Highest points total in the league and cheated out of the semi-finals of the Champions League. They could only improve from that point with their abundance in cash. Look how that turned out...

My friend..

Steadman wrote:

BladeGunner14 wrote:

That's why I said we're stagnating and not moving on and up. Maybe a managerial change could be useful although, I think that our fuck ups last year had nothing to do with the manager and more with the fragility of the players.

I'd say the quality of the team is getting worse every year, we may finish fourth but the lack of quality is noticeable.

I just can't see how Arsene can get us back as challengers if he sticks with the same mentality.

The team was better last year than it has been since the trophyless run began (exception being 07/08 where we had a phenomenal team), so that's not true by any means. His mentality is alright, it really is just down to the players to show their desire now. You don't contest for four different trophies for significant phases without being good enough. The players were fragile and that was our downfall. Not much Wenger can do about that unless he hires a psychologist.