FIFA Ballon d’Or 2011 shortlist

Scouser_Dave wrote:

10RLegend wrote:It's slowly turning into a popularity contest, the most deserving player doesn't win anymore.

What?

The only winner that's shocked me over the past couple of years is Fabio Cannavaro, the rest have been deserved winners.

Scouser_Dave wrote:

10RLegend wrote:It's slowly turning into a popularity contest, the most deserving player doesn't win anymore.

What?

The only winner that's shocked me over the past couple of years is Fabio Cannavaro, the rest have been deserved winners.

AriseForLife wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

What?

The only winner that's shocked me over the past couple of years is Fabio Cannavaro, the rest have been deserved winners.

It's about more than just winning. There have also been players that shouldn't even be on the shortlists that are getting nominated. The FIFA awards are the biggest joke because none of them are based on who is the best player, they are basically weighted towards who the best player is on the best teams.

AriseForLife wrote:

Scouser_Dave wrote:

What?

The only winner that's shocked me over the past couple of years is Fabio Cannavaro, the rest have been deserved winners.

It's about more than just winning. There have also been players that shouldn't even be on the shortlists that are getting nominated. The FIFA awards are the biggest joke because none of them are based on who is the best player, they are basically weighted towards who the best player is on the best teams.

The awards should go back to who they were when players like Sammer, Weah, etc won. It was not about the World Cup, or Euros, or team performance, it was about who was actually the best player in that year based on individual performances not team performances like it is now.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

AriseForLife wrote:

It's about more than just winning. There have also been players that shouldn't even be on the shortlists that are getting nominated. The FIFA awards are the biggest joke because none of them are based on who is the best player, they are basically weighted towards who the best player is on the best teams.

The awards should go back to who they were when players like Sammer, Weah, etc won. It was not about the World Cup, or Euros, or team performance, it was about who was actually the best player in that year based on individual performances not team performances like it is now.

If it's about team performance or the World Cup, why didn't Treble winning World Cup Finalist and Top Scorer (I think) Wesley Sneijder win it? Why didn't world cup winners Xavi or Iniesta, one of whom was the best player at the World Cup, the other scoring the winner in the Final win it?

Mr Leiva wrote:

AriseForLife wrote:

It's about more than just winning. There have also been players that shouldn't even be on the shortlists that are getting nominated. The FIFA awards are the biggest joke because none of them are based on who is the best player, they are basically weighted towards who the best player is on the best teams.

The only player that deserves to win it, is fucking Messi.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

AriseForLife wrote:

It's about more than just winning. There have also been players that shouldn't even be on the shortlists that are getting nominated. The FIFA awards are the biggest joke because none of them are based on who is the best player, they are basically weighted towards who the best player is on the best teams.

The awards should go back to who they were when players like Sammer, Weah, etc won. It was not about the World Cup, or Euros, or team performance, it was about who was actually the best player in that year based on individual performances not team performances like it is now.

If it's about team performance or the World Cup, why didn't Treble winning World Cup Finalist and Top Scorer (I think) Wesley Sneijder win it? Why didn't world cup winners Xavi or Iniesta, one of whom was the best player at the World Cup, the other scoring the winner in the Final win it?

Scuba Steve wrote:Heisman Trophy is no different. For the past decade it has just gone to the best player on the best team.

AriseForLife wrote:

Mr Leiva wrote:

The only player that deserves to win it, is fucking Messi.

Did I say he did not deserve to win it? I don't think those words ever came out of my mouth or from my keyboard.

ResurrectionRooney wrote:

If it's about team performance or the World Cup, why didn't Treble winning World Cup Finalist and Top Scorer (I think) Wesley Sneijder win it? Why didn't world cup winners Xavi or Iniesta, one of whom was the best player at the World Cup, the other scoring the winner in the Final win it?

Well probably because Messi was lights out the best player in the world the year that Inter won the treble. Secondly, when I say its more team based and tournament based I am referring to times when Ronaldo and Zidane won mainly because they were World Cup years. The year that Ronaldo won because he was leading scorer at the World Cup should not have over shadowed the fact that Henry had a better season than he did, yet wasn't even included in the finalists. Another example is Cannavaro who has already been mentioned. The reason neither Xavi or Iniesta won it was beacuse once again Messi was better than them AND he is on the same team so their success also attributes to him winning it.

I have always thought soccer awards are broken and wished they were handled more like our awards in the NBA, MLB, and NFL where it truly does go to the best player in the league regardless if they are not on a title winning team etc. Messi is deserving of the award, but I am specifically talking about winners in the past and players who make the short list that shouldn't have.

Eternal Witcher wrote:If Suarez doesn't win it I am going to be PISSED.

Laurencio wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:If Suarez doesn't win it I am going to be PISSED.

Someone bring this man a lot of beer.

Laurencio wrote:

Eternal Witcher wrote:If Suarez doesn't win it I am going to be PISSED.

Someone bring this man a lot of beer.

Eternal Witcher wrote:

Laurencio wrote:

Someone bring this man a lot of beer.

ahlycotc wrote:

Scuba Steve wrote:Heisman Trophy is no different. For the past decade it has just gone to the best player on the best team.

The Hokies are going down in 8 days.

Scuba Steve wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:

The Hokies are going down in 8 days.

We don't lose to teams that can't beat UVA

ahlycotc wrote:That article brings up an interesting thought. Imagine Messi winning like 5 consecutive Ballon d'Ors if he keeps up his form.

ahlycotc wrote:http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1004830/real-madrid-snub-ballon-d'or-ceremony?cc=5901

Does this mean that Ronaldo, Mourinho, and the others are pulling out of the shortlists?

ahlycotc wrote:U mirin

Steadman wrote:

ahlycotc wrote:That article brings up an interesting thought. Imagine Messi winning like 5 consecutive Ballon d'Ors if he keeps up his form.

If Real Madrid win La Liga or the Champions League during that time, then C.Ronaldo could easily win the award himself with the amount of goals he scores.

They have a similar goalscoring record but Messi will win it as he has helped Barcelona to actually win major trophies.