Was Bin Laden Successful?

A bit controversial, but I want to hear what people really think. Did Bin Laden succeed or is going to succeed in his goal?

According to his ideology, the only way to defeat the USA and drive them out of the Middle East was to get the USA involved in a several small wars (with jihadists that will never give up) that will eventually collapse the USA economy. George Bush and his administration fell into the trap.

I believe the Iraq War had the biggest impact on the US, but I wouldn't necessarily associate that war with Osama or his people.

He was the most wanted man in the world at a point.
He got nations of people scared.
He got more people to hate america.
He collapsed their economy.


Yes to a certain point but he still died.

USA went into Iraq because of 9/11. Iraq was one of the states the Jihadists operated from.

So yah, Bin Laden was successful in reaching his goal in that aspect.

Yes, unfortunately

Your hero did well.

James wrote:Your hero did well.

I'm sure you'd like to think that Ahly, but your boy didn't cause the economic mess, a banking crisis did. bin Laden had nothing to do with it.

James wrote:Your hero did well.

James wrote:Your hero did well.

I am 12 and what is this?

Most successful troll of all time.

SBSP wrote:Most successful troll of all time.

And you say I don't value human life.

Where in the post have I not valued it?

SBSP wrote:Where in the post have I not valued it?

You've pathetically used an internet meme to condone the killings of thousands of innocent American civilians.

Where in that post have I condoned it?

God doesn't exist.

Cadbury wrote:God doesn't exist.

And yet people are still killing other people over it!

It's fucking hilarious! People giving their lives away for an imagination!

Forest wrote:

SBSP wrote:Where in the post have I not valued it?

You've pathetically used an internet meme to condone the killings of thousands of innocent American civilians.

Around 6000 people Al-Qaeda killed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_al-Qaeda_attacks

polska. wrote:

Cadbury wrote:God doesn't exist.

And yet people are still killing other people over it!

It's fucking hilarious! People giving their lives away for an imagination!

It depends on what your definition of success is and what Bin Laden's was. He did succeed in spreading fear, killing innocent Americans, causing the U.S. to get involved in more wars, etc. Thus, it's highly possible he succeeded by his own definition as well but we'll never know for sure.

polska. wrote:

Cadbury wrote:God doesn't exist.

And yet people are still killing other people over it!

It's fucking hilarious! People giving their lives away for an imagination!

A bit like your imagination that England is not the best

No, but George Bush did fantastic.

You idiots, I don't support Bin Laden.

I agree with him on some things (the USA needs to get the fuck out of the ME), but ultimately his philosophy and means of achieving it are wrong. I believe the USA's policies helped create the man Bin Laden was. I don't think the innocent civilians deserve what happened to them though.

@ RR, yes the banking and subprime mortgage crisis helped bring down the economy, but the amount of government debt thanks to the two wars is the real killer. Banks are slowly recovering. The US government isn't.

ahlycotc wrote:You idiots, I don't support Bin Laden.

Of course you do. All Moozlims are terrorists.

polska. wrote:USA went into Iraq because of 9/11. Iraq was one of the states the Jihadists operated from.

So yah, Bin Laden was successful in reaching his goal in that aspect.

What is the real reason the USA invaded Iraq? To this day, I still don't know.

Oil.

Oil and imaginary wEpins of mAsss DESstruction.

ahlycotc wrote:A bit controversial, but I want to hear what people really think. Did Bin Laden succeed or is going to succeed in his goal?

According to his ideology, the only way to defeat the USA and drive them out of the Middle East was to get the USA involved in a several small wars (with jihadists that will never give up) that will eventually collapse the USA economy. George Bush and his administration fell into the trap.

I believe the Iraq War had the biggest impact on the US, but I wouldn't necessarily associate that war with Osama or his people.

I don't believe that was Bin Ladens mission and he hasn't really succeeded at all.
- While it is costing America a buttload to keep up the fight in these countries, they are also making a buttload of money out of it
- Bin Laden did not kill the American economy, America killed it's own economy
- America has a foot in the middle east that it never had before. It has added more US Airports to it's world tally which will remain under US control for a very long time
- Osama is on the bottom of sea, America and Americans still walk free under Christianity.

That being said from a person who's very judgemental on America

What was Osama's mission then?

groce